Help no internet!

[rookiebuilder]

Hey guys I'm about to build my first gaming pc and I have questions in regards of the internet and please forgive my ignorance.

I will keep my future pc in my bedroom but I have no access to an ethernet port from here, my router is far away and I don't know if there is a possibility to connect myself remotely with an ethernet cable..

So now I believe my only solution is going wireless with either a pci-e adapter or those usb adapters.
I chose to build with the MSI Z97A Gaming 7 motherboard over the MSI Z97A Gaming 9 because I didn't want to pay so much extra for basically just the Wi-fi option and hopefully find a cheaper solution.

So finally here are my questions:

1. Is there any way for me to connect myself with an ethernet cable with some sort of adapter I would plug in the wall socket or something of the kind?

2. If not, is going with a pci-e adapter better than the usb adapters?
Keep in my I've never used a pci-e adapter

3. If I use a pci-e adapter, will it still be possible for me to use SLI?
Again my mobo of choise is MSI Z97A Gaming 7, I will get 1 gpu for a moment and then plan on getting a second one later on. I feel I would have a space or connetions conflict.

This is my first time on a blog or forum ever, I would like to thank everyone with your patience and for taking the time to answer to a rookiebuilder 
 

[Deletive]

Powerline, if you're house isn't a billion years old chances are it's going to be better then wifi. 

[pokechat8978]

1. I think that would be a Powerline Adapter.

2. I would think that they are

3. Yes

 

Do you know how far away your PC is from the router? I'm running off of a 100 ft Ethernet cable from the router downstairs to my PC upstairs.

 

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[rookiebuilder]

You guys are crazy fast!! Thanks!! Now I just need to find out what a powerline adapter looks like.. And no my house really isn't that old lol!

My router is about 20ft away but the most effective way to get to it would be for me to make the cable go along the ceiling and I don't know if I want to go through all that yet.


 

[Derranged]

With the powerline adapter it really depends on how your house is setup. Both powerline adapters have to be on the same circuit otherwise it won't work. Sometimes it can also have latency and data issues. I sit about 15 meters away from my router and have quite a few walls in between me and the router, and my TP Link wireless adapter has no issues getting a good signal.

What I would suggest is to grab your phone and download a WiFi analyzer, go to the room with your computer and connect to your router. Check out the signal and the quality of the connection. It should give you a good result of how the USB adapter would perform.

I would also recommend finding an adapter with good wall penetration. I have had issues with PCIe network cards getting terrible signal and ping, whereas with a USB adapter I can use an extension cable to sit it up on my wall.

[rookiebuilder]

1. I think that would be a Powerline Adapter.

2. I would think that they are

3. Yes

 

Do you know how far away your PC is from the router? I'm running off of a 100 ft Ethernet cable from the router downstairs to my PC upstairs.

You guys are crazy fast!! Thanks!! Now I just need to find out what a powerline adapter looks like.. And no my house really isn't that old lol!

My router is about 20ft away but the most effective way to get to it would be for me to make the cable go along the ceiling and I don't know if I want to go through all that yet.

[Deagon]

Get a really long cord, still better than wifi. Thats what i do, but careful how you coil it, if you buy cheap cord it'll cause interference. 

[NannerBeans]

Cheaper wifi option is this: http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Bluetooth-Expansion-Components-GC-WB867D-I/dp/B00HF8K0O6

 

 

More expensive powerline option: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10521&cs_id=1052102&p_id=12288&seq=1&format=2

[rookiebuilder]

With the powerline adapter it really depends on how your house is setup. Both powerline adapters have to be on the same circuit otherwise it won't work. Sometimes it can also have latency and data issues. I sit about 15 meters away from my router and have quite a few walls in between me and the router, and my TP Link wireless adapter has no issues getting a good signal.

What I would suggest is to grab your phone and download a WiFi analyzer, go to the room with your computer and connect to your router. Check out the signal and the quality of the connection. It should give you a good result of how the USB adapter would perform.

I would also recommend finding an adapter with good wall penetration. I have had issues with PCIe network cards getting terrible signal and ping, whereas with a USB adapter I can use an extension cable to sit it up on my wall.

Since there's no way for me to find out if I will be connected on the same circuit and that if I am I risk to get some issues, even tho I already know that I have good wifi reception where I'm at, is the powerline adapter still worth it? Because like verybody else I'm all for the fastest. But I would like it to be safe too..

[Derranged]

Since there's no way for me to find out if I will be connected on the same circuit and that if I am I risk to get some issues, even tho I already know that I have good wifi reception where I'm at, is the powerline adapter still worth it? Because like verybody else I'm all for the fastest. But I would like it to be safe too..

If you can't go with a cable I would still suggest a good WiFi adapter. I also forgot to ask, what material are your walls made of? If it's wood/plaster it should be good with WiFi.

I play games a LOT on this wireless connection and I have experienced no issues with ping times. However this is also affected by other networks on the same frequency. Same thing as I suggested with your phone, a WiFi analyzer can tell you if your area is clogged by other connections that could affect the quality of a signal.

[Sharp_3yE]

Hey guys I'm about to build my first gaming pc and I have questions in regards of the internet and please forgive my ignorance.

I will keep my future pc in my bedroom but I have no access to an ethernet port from here, my router is far away and I don't know if there is a possibility to connect myself remotely with an ethernet cable..

So now I believe my only solution is going wireless with either a pci-e adapter or those usb adapters.

I chose to build with the MSI Z97A Gaming 7 motherboard over the MSI Z97A Gaming 9 because I didn't want to pay so much extra for basically just the Wi-fi option and hopefully find a cheaper solution.

So finally here are my questions:

1. Is there any way for me to connect myself with an ethernet cable with some sort of adapter I would plug in the wall socket or something of the kind?

2. If not, is going with a pci-e adapter better than the usb adapters?

Keep in my I've never used a pci-e adapter

3. If I use a pci-e adapter, will it still be possible for me to use SLI?

Again my mobo of choise is MSI Z97A Gaming 7, I will get 1 gpu for a moment and then plan on getting a second one later on. I feel I would have a space or connetions conflict.

This is my first time on a blog or forum ever, I would like to thank everyone with your patience and for taking the time to answer to a rookiebuilder 

 

One thing I want to ask you is what is the make and model of your router?  A usb or one that is internal for a wireless adapter will work well as long as your router is good and the adapter is good. I would agree with @Derranged to check the connection of the wifi in your room with a wifi analyzer. If you get a good connection then a good adapter will work well. If you don't get a good connection, still get a good adaptor but you may need to buy a new router for a better connection which is why I asked what router you have so we can make sure that it will work well. Also, make sure your wifi adaptor is a 802.11ac dual band adapter and make sure that if you have a dual band router that you are on the 5ghz band. 802.11ac router/adapter will penetrate walls better as well but check your connection with a phone now first before getting a new router. An internal or external one will work. I use internal.

Where I live I was having internet issues as well. When I moved in to this house they were using a crappy router and I had a cheap adapter. I was able to change both the router and my adapter that support the latest and greatest and they penetrate the walls so easily and I get a very good connection now.

[Derranged]

One thing I want to ask you is what is the make and model of your router? A usb or one that is internal for a wireless adapter will work well as long as your router is good and the adapter is good. I would agree with @Derranged to check the connection of the wifi in your room with a wifi analyzer. If you get a good connection then a good adapter will work well. If you don't get a good connection, still get a good adaptor but you may need to buy a new router for a better connection which is why I asked what router you have so we can make sure that it will work well. Also, make sure your wifi adaptor is a 802.11ac dual band adapter and make sure that if you have a dual band router that you are on the 5ghz band. 802.11ac router/adapter will penetrate walls better as well but check your connection with a phone now first before getting a new router. An internal or external one will work. I use internal.

Where I live I was having internet issues as well. When I moved in to this house they were using a crappy router and I had a cheap adapter. I was able to change both the router and my adapter that support the latest and greatest and they penetrate the walls so easily and I get a very good connection now.

He is only 15 feet away or so, so the router should be fine no matter what it is. But I guess the default ones the ISPs in America (assuming he is American) give to their customers might not be as good as the ones we get here.

I didn't really see any improvement with an upgrade to a newer ASUS modem-router ( Which has terrible firmware issues btw). I just don't want to recommend purchasing a good modem-router as it might be out of his price range and might not yield any enhancements.

The major difference I have with my setup here is that I live in outback QLD in Aus, so we don't have a tonne of interference. Whereas this guy might live in a crowded part of California where wireless would be hell.

[brwainer]

Since there's no way for me to find out if I will be connected on the same circuit and that if I am I risk to get some issues, even tho I already know that I have good wifi reception where I'm at, is the powerline adapter still worth it? Because like verybody else I'm all for the fastest. But I would like it to be safe too..

Figuring out the circuits (actually what matters are the phases) is easy if you have access to the circuit breaker and it is decently labeled. All breakers on an even row will be on the same phase. All breakers on an odd row will be on the other phase. (I only can tell you this is true for the US, I don't know standards in other countries) But the old common knowledge that all your powerline adaptors have to be on the same phase actually isn't 100% true anymore. Units rated as "Homeplug AV2" (note the 2) can use the ground wires as well to communicate, and most houses have all grounds connected together. I have powerline in my house with one adaptor on the opposite phase from the other three. That adaptor has a slower connection, about 50Mbps, to the others, whereas the three on the same phase get 100Mbps between them. YMMV.

[yzbd]

Some people will say power-line is better over WiFi. I have personally found that a dual band router (AC) will yield the best results (2.4 & 5Ghz radio signal). Buy a good 5Ghz WiFi adapter (AC) for the computer and to connect to the 5Ghz network. Latency will be close, but still slightly slower, but the bandwidth will be better (aka speeds). -- Not a fact, but have been my results and many others. Factors: home layout, distance, objects, walls, etc.

[arronleeds]

Some people will say power-line is better over WiFi. I have personally found that a dual band router (AC) will yield the best results (2.4 & 5Ghz radio signal). Buy a good 5Ghz WiFi adapter (AC) for the computer and to connect to the 5Ghz network. Latency will be close, but still slightly slower, but the bandwidth will be better (aka speeds). -- Not a fact, but have been my results and many others. Factors: home layout, distance, objects, walls, etc.

i get better latency on wireless than powerline (wiring is old as shit), i actually get the same latency wireless as wired, speed too.

[arronleeds]

take a look at this guys, these are my results with old wiring

 

[Sharp_3yE]

He is only 15 feet away or so, so the router should be fine no matter what it is. But I guess the default ones the ISPs in America (assuming he is American) give to their customers might not be as good as the ones we get here.

I didn't really see any improvement with an upgrade to a newer ASUS modem-router ( Which has terrible firmware issues btw). I just don't want to recommend purchasing a good modem-router as it might be out of his price range and might not yield any enhancements.

The major difference I have with my setup here is that I live in outback QLD in Aus, so we don't have a tonne of interference. Whereas this guy might live in a crowded part of California where wireless would be hell.

I had a router in the house I live in now and it was about 15ft away upstairs in a room just down the hall. I got terrible connection. I now have a Asus 802.11ac dual band router that is downstairs even and it get a fantastic connection.

What I said was to test the connection. I agreed to test the connection first, then if the connection is good he doesn't need to get a new router. If its not very good then he needs a new router and it will cost between 30 to 50 dollars for a decent router.