Do you think I can do this?

[byalexandr]

I want to upgrade my FX 6300 to a Xeon E3-1241 v3 and a mini ITX board, as seen here:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1241 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($263.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $322.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-23 14:50 EDT-0400

 

Thing is, I don't have any money to spend, so I just want to sell the FX 6300, board, and throw in a couple other things (spare memory I have as well as a spare SSD) to pay for it, and this is what I'm going to sell (the memory is slightly different):

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($44.49 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Adorama) 

Total: $293.45

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-23 14:53 EDT-0400

 

Do you think I could do this? Should I downgrade to a Xeon E3-1231 v3 or throw in my Seidon 120V (as much as I hate to do that) to make the price a bit easier? I want to move to Intel, mini ITX as you can see, then when I save up enough I upgrade my GTX 760 to a GTX 980 and get a mini ITX case as well. What should I do? Thanks!

 

Edit: Current specs are in my signature.

[79wjd]

Go with a 1231v3 if you're going to throw in a GPU anyway -- the only advantage to the 1241 is that it has integrated graphics and the slightly higher clockspeed, and the 1241's minimal clock speed difference isn't worth the extra money.

[byalexandr]

Go with a 1231v3 if you're going to throw in a GPU anyway -- the only advantage to the 1241 is that it has integrated graphics. 

Oh, really? I thought it just had a higher clock speed, so to compete a bit more with the 4790. I will do the 1231v3 then. I won't be throwing in my current GTX 760, I will be using it until I save up enough for a GTX 980.

 

Edit: I assume some will suggest a 4690K but I don't really want to overclock as I'm going to be putting everything in a small case, plus I do a lot of CAD work and other things where the Xeon will come in handy. Gaming is a big thing I do, though, but the Xeon should at least be better for gaming than the 6300 that I have.

[79 Potatoes]

Go with a 1231v3 if you're going to throw in a GPU anyway -- the only advantage to the 1241 is that it has integrated graphics. 

No it doesn't, xeon models with iGPU end in 5 and 6. This one only has higher clock.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/80909,80910

[byalexandr]

No it doesn't, xeon models with iGPU end in 5 and 6. This one only has higher clock.

Thought so. I just want to compete with the 4690K. Is the Xeon 1231v3 capable of competing with it? At least more than my FX 6300, I know that for a fact.

[byalexandr]

So I want to buy the parts at Newegg, and that amounts to $319.45. Should I sell the parts I listed for $350 and throw in my Seidon 120V to make the price less of a ripoff? I can also sell my 16GB kit of RAM and use the spare 8GB I had instead.

 

So it would sell like this for $350?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($57.55 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.99 @ Adorama) 

Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Adorama) 

Total: $409.51

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-23 15:07 EDT-0400

 

 

Then I could use the $350 I made and buy this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.98 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.38 @ Newegg) 

Total: $321.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-23 15:09 EDT-0400

 

 

Sound good or?

[79 Potatoes]

Thought so. I just want to compete with the 4690K. Is the Xeon 1231v3 capable of competing with it? At least more than my FX 6300, I know that for a fact.

Depends on situation. If you're running single threaded/very old applications the higher clock (or overclock) of the 4690K might be and advantage, though on multithreaded/HT advantaged applications the e3 1231 v3 will perform better. In a little summary that xeon is like a locked and without iGPU i7 (though ECC capable and other things, but I don't think you need these).

[Oshino Shinobu]

Go with a 1231v3 if you're going to throw in a GPU anyway -- the only advantage to the 1241 is that it has integrated graphics. 

Eh? It doesn't, the difference is the clock speed. 

[byalexandr]

Depends on situation. If you're running single threaded/very old applications the higher clock (or overclock) of the 4690K might be and advantage, though on multithreaded/HT advantaged applications the e3 1231 v3 will perform better. In a little summary that xeon is like a locked and without iGPU i7 (though ECC capable and other things, but I don't think you need these).

Great. Just what I need. Does my parts list to sell seem like a decent enough deal? I just posted the revised one.

[Oshino Shinobu]

Thought so. I just want to compete with the 4690K. Is the Xeon 1231v3 capable of competing with it? At least more than my FX 6300, I know that for a fact.

It will perform better in multi threaded tasks. For games, it will perform around the same (slightly worse, but nothing noticeable) 

[byalexandr]

It will perform better in multi threaded tasks. For games, it will perform around the same (slightly worse, but nothing noticeable) 

That's fine. As long as it performs better than my FX 6300, which I know it will.

[Oshino Shinobu]

Great. Just what I need. Does my parts list to sell seem like a decent enough deal? I just posted the revised one.

Bear in mind you will need to buy a GPU if you don't already have one in order to have a display output. 

[byalexandr]

Bear in mind you will need to buy a GPU if you don't already have one in order to have a display output. 

As I mentioned before I will be keeping my GTX 760 until I can afford a GTX 980 and a mini ITX case.

[79wjd]

Oh, really? I thought it just had a higher clock speed, so to compete a bit more with the 4790. I will do the 1231v3 then. I won't be throwing in my current GTX 760, I will be using it until I save up enough for a GTX 980.

 

Edit: I assume some will suggest a 4690K but I don't really want to overclock as I'm going to be putting everything in a small case, plus I do a lot of CAD work and other things where the Xeon will come in handy. Gaming is a big thing I do, though, but the Xeon should at least be better for gaming than the 6300 that I have.

 

 

No it doesn't, xeon models with iGPU end in 5 and 6. This one only has higher clock.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/80909,80910

 

 

Eh? It doesn't, the difference is the clock speed. 

whoops, got my numbers crossed. Still, I'd go for the 1231 and save the money. 

[79 Potatoes]

Great. Just what I need. Does my parts list to sell seem like a decent enough deal? I just posted the revised one.

If they're clean and in good condition you might sell it faster. Though it's weird to buy 3/4s of a computer, well I mean... no GPU

[byalexandr]

If they're clean and in good condition you might sell it faster. Though it's weird to buy 3/4s of a computer, well I mean... no GPU

I'd say they're in mint condition. I take very good care of my components even if they're mid-range.

 

 

Usually I get pretty fast responses from Craigslist buyers. We'll see how it turns out. Thanks for the help, and to others as well!

[Oshino Shinobu]

whoops, got my numbers crossed. Still, I'd go for the 1231 and save the money. 

Yep, would agree with that. It's around $40 or so for a small clock speed increase. 

[Electronics Wizardy]

there is almost no difference between the 1231 and the 1241 get the cheapper one. If you are just gaming a 6300 is enough most of the time.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Go with a 1231v3 if you're going to throw in a GPU anyway -- the only advantage to the 1241 is that it has integrated graphics. 

The 1241 doesn't have a igpu the 1246 does.

[typographie]

Thought so. I just want to compete with the 4690K. Is the Xeon 1231v3 capable of competing with it? At least more than my FX 6300, I know that for a fact.

 

Well, the i5-4690K will be faster if it's overclocked and the performance of the task depends on four or fewer cores. At stock, though, the 4690K is only 100 MHz faster, which is probably too little to ever make any noticeable difference. The Xeons will be faster in heavily multithreaded apps, usually even when compared to an overclocked 4690K.

 

The E3-1241v3, like the 4690K, only differs by 100 MHz from the E3-1231v3. It's not worth paying $25 more for, in my opinion.

http://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/80909/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1241-v3-8M-Cache-3_50-GHz

 

The iGPU is kind of a moot point anyway. It's useful on the i5's for recording and streaming video via QuickSync due to the limited number of cores available, but that's kind of redundant on a Hyperthreaded CPU where there's usually going to be a logical core available for that.

[byalexandr]

Well, i5-4690K will be faster if it's overclocked and the performance depends on four or fewer cores. At stock, the 4690K is only 100 MHz faster, which is probably much too little to make any noticeable difference anywhere. The Xeons will be faster in heavily multithreaded apps, usually even when compared to an overclocked 4690K.

 

The E3-1241v3, like the 4690K, only differs by 100 MHz from the E3-1231v3. It's not worth paying $25 more for, in my opinion.

http://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/80909/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1241-v3-8M-Cache-3_50-GHz

 

The iGPU is kind of a moot point anyway. It's useful on the i5's for recording and streaming video via QuickSync due to the limited number of cores available, but that's kind of redundant on a Hyperthreaded CPU where there's usually going to be a logical core available for that.

I know. I have already posted the ad and stuff. I will be getting the Xeon E3-1231v3.