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Hey guys

 

 

This is probably the first time i ever got that near to the topic computer building.

I've played on laptops the last ~8 years and finally saved enough money to build a PC. 

First of all, ill post a list of the parts i plan to use and maybe u guys could tell me, if anything is - like linus would say it - a bottleneck, or something wouldnt fit into that nice case.

 

 

Case: CoolerMaster HAF XB Cube

Mainboard: ASRock 970 Pro 3 Rev 2.0

CPU: AMD FX Series 8320E (didnt planned any overclocking)

PSU: 550 Watt CoolerMaster GM Series Modular

SSD: 120GB Kingston SSD Now V300

HDD: The one im using in my notebook, 2.5" 2TB

RAM: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866 DIMM

GPU: 4096 PowerColor Radeon r9 290X TurboDuo

AIO-Liquid Cooler: Enermax Liqmax II 240

 

 

Some additional coolers: 2x be quiet! Shadow Wings SW! PWM (in front of the HDD Cage)

                                        BitFenix Spectre 200x200x20 (on the top part of the case)

 

Already got the external hardware e.g. Screen or Keyboard

 

The links ive marked onto the products are from a german site, on which ill order the pc. 

I gotta say sorry for my very bad english, im from germany and never did something like this.

 

at the moment the price is about 1100 Euros. Thats like all of my budget. Would be nice if i can get under that, without loosing the strength of the system. Wont be a big deal, if the price does not change, but i cant spend more money on it.

 

Thank you very very much :)

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Hey guys

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Welcome to the Forum.

 

What are you wanting to do with this build? I think there's a lot that needs to be changed.

Also your English seems pretty good.

 

1) You should really go for Intel chips if you're going to be gaming, because single threaded performance is more important in most games and AMD CPUs really lack this performance for the time being.

2) Please don't go with the Kingston V300 - it used to be an okay SSD but it's been changed to have far worse flash that is known to perform really badly.

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Even though I currently use the 8320, I cannot recommend AMD chips right now over intel. If you aren't overclocking, get only 8gb of ram, a core i5 4460, an h97 board, and get an 850 evo over that v300 ssd. As the guy above said, they don't have great performance.

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The actual aim of this build is getting as much power for full hd gaming as possible at the price of 1100 euros.

what do you think, i gotta change?

 

Thank you, for that compliment :)

Okay, so I'm by no means the best person to set up a build for you but I'll suggest something...

 

I'd like to suggest this but I can see that this can't give prices for MindFactory:
 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€242.75 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.60 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€99.89 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€64.58 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€86.60 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290X 4GB Direct CU II Video Card  (€321.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Cooler Master HAF XB EVO ATX Desktop Case  (€90.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€99.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre Pro 148.7 CFM 200mm  Fan  (€17.28 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: be quiet! SHADOW WINGS SW1 23.8 CFM 80mm  Fan  (€10.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: be quiet! SHADOW WINGS SW1 23.8 CFM 80mm  Fan  (€10.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: be quiet! SHADOW WINGS SW1 23.8 CFM 80mm  Fan  (€10.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: be quiet! SHADOW WINGS SW1 23.8 CFM 80mm  Fan  (€10.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1101.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Not to be mean. But that build is kinda bad. First off AMD is in the losing lane when it comes to CPU's very crummy single core strength. Intel is the way to go and for a better build go with  @[member=Tedster] build

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Hey guys

 

 

This is probably the first time i ever got that near to the topic computer building.

I've played on laptops the last ~8 years and finally saved enough money to build a PC. 

First of all, ill post a list of the parts i plan to use and maybe u guys could tell me, if anything is - like linus would say it - a bottleneck, or something wouldnt fit into that nice case.

 

 

Case: CoolerMaster HAF XB Cube

Mainboard: ASRock 970 Pro 3 Rev 2.0

CPU: AMD FX Series 8320E (didnt planned any overclocking)

PSU: 550 Watt CoolerMaster GM Series Modular

SSD: 120GB Kingston SSD Now V300

HDD: The one im using in my notebook, 2.5" 2TB

RAM: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866 DIMM

GPU: 4096 PowerColor Radeon r9 290X TurboDuo

AIO-Liquid Cooler: Enermax Liqmax II 240

 

 

Some additional coolers: 2x be quiet! Shadow Wings SW! PWM (in front of the HDD Cage)

                                        BitFenix Spectre 200x200x20 (on the top part of the case)

 

Already got the external hardware e.g. Screen or Keyboard

 

The links ive marked onto the products are from a german site, on which ill order the pc. 

I gotta say sorry for my very bad english, im from germany and never did something like this.

 

at the moment the price is about 1100 Euros. Thats like all of my budget. Would be nice if i can get under that, without loosing the strength of the system. Wont be a big deal, if the price does not change, but i cant spend more money on it.

 

Thank you very very much :)

 

I made some major changes, and I made sure all products could be purchased from Amazon Deutschland.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€242.75 @ Amazon Deutschland)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€118.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€54.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  (€370.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Cooler Master HAF XB EVO ATX Desktop Case  (€90.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€97.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1114.08

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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You have 16GB of Ram, which is way more than enough. If you dropped it down to 8GB then you could spend more on the SSD and go for a 256GB Samsung 850 Pro, which would server you better than the Kingston 120GB.

7800X3D - MSI B650 MAG Tomahawk - 32GB 6000mhz CL30 - Gigabyte 3080 TI - 2TB NVME - 1000w PSU - ID Cooling 240mm AIO

 

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Would be the ASRock B85M Pro4 Intel B85 enough to power the I5? I Would like to take the 16 gigs of ram, cuz 8 werent enough on my notebook. 

If i add the 850 Evo instead of the kingstons one, switch the cpu and the motherboard ill be at 1090€. Still a pretty good deal, if you guys think thats okay.

 

@Tedster I would like to keep an aio cooler, couse it looks damn pretty and fits nicely into the cooling style of the haf cube. would be a pretty nice air flow with it. 

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crucial mx100/200 SSD are good for their price and from a reliability stand point, I have 3 of them (2 128gb and a 256gb...all mx100 but don't see why the mx200s would be worse...) and all are working flawlessly after 1 years of use (I know, it's not that long)

Looking at my signature are we now? Well too bad there's nothing here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here :) 

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I made some major changes, and I made sure all products could be purchased from Amazon Deutschland.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€242.75 @ Amazon Deutschland)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€118.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€54.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  (€370.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Cooler Master HAF XB EVO ATX Desktop Case  (€90.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€97.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1114.08

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Drop the CPU to the non k version. He said he isn't overclocking. 

Fine you want the PSU tier list? Have the PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-103/

 

Stille (Desktop)

Ryzen 9 3900XT@4.5Ghz - Cryorig H7 Ultimate - 16GB Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz- MSI RTX 3080 Ti Ventus 3x OC - SanDisk Plus 480GB - Crucial MX500 500GB - Intel 660P 1TB SSD - (2x) WD Red 2TB - EVGA G3 650w - Corsair 760T

Evoo Gaming 15"
i7-9750H - 16GB DDR4 - GTX 1660Ti - 480GB SSD M.2 - 1TB 2.5" BX500 SSD 

VM + NAS Server (ProxMox 6.3)

1x Xeon E5-2690 v2  - 92GB ECC DDR3 - Quadro 4000 - Dell H310 HBA (Flashed with IT firmware) -500GB Crucial MX500 (Proxmox Host) Kingston 128GB SSD (FreeNAS dev/ID passthrough) - 8x4TB Toshiba N300 HDD

Toys: Ender 3 Pro, Oculus Rift CV1, Oculus Quest 2, about half a dozen raspberry Pis (2b to 4), Arduino Uno, Arduino Mega, Arduino nano (x3), Arduino nano pro, Atomic Pi. 

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Drop the CPU to the non k version. He said he isn't overclocking. 

 

I didnt planned on doing, but if you guys think, the hardware can handle it aswell as the cooler, i could ask my dad to get the best out of the cpu. he did that to his i7 from something 3.5 to 4.2 if i remember correctly. 

i need to thank u guys already, for the time u spend for me!

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Would be the ASRock B85M Pro4 Intel B85 enough to power the I5? I Would like to take the 16 gigs of ram, cuz 8 werent enough on my notebook. 

If i add the 850 Evo instead of the kingstons one, switch the cpu and the motherboard ill be at 1090€. Still a pretty good deal, if you guys think thats okay.

 

@Tedster I would like to keep an aio cooler, couse it looks damn pretty and fits nicely into the cooling style of the haf cube. would be a pretty nice air flow with it. 

Yes, it would power the i5 but there would be no reason to have a 'k' cpu because you wouldn't be able to overclock it, so you could go down to a 4440 or a 4460, or a 4590 or 4690,

I've made a spreadsheet here that you can edit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bUQIlotgKm48BNe7qNxwnjIU_qzvciCS4T2KoQir2M8/edit?usp=sharing

 

 

I didnt planned on doing, but if you guys think, the hardware can handle it aswell as the cooler, i could ask my dad to get the best out of the cpu. he did that to his i7 from something 3.5 to 4.2 if i remember correctly. 

i need to thank u guys already, for the time u spend for me!

 

You're welcome. I take a pride in helping people.

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Edit:  I just saw the $1100 budget (I am tired)... I would change a few things...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€184.29 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 87.0 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.28 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€77.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€56.06 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Sandisk X110 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€55.48 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.61 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 970 4GB JetStream Video Card  (€348.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€38.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€83.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€6.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) <<Front intake
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€6.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) <<Front intake
Total: €949.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I didnt planned on doing, but if you guys think, the hardware can handle it aswell as the cooler, i could ask my dad to get the best out of the cpu. he did that to his i7 from something 3.5 to 4.2 if i remember correctly. 

i need to thank u guys already, for the time u spend for me!

 

It's no problem, we enjoy crafting builds for people and helping them get optimized performance for their $$$.

 

It's very enjoyable and relaxing to make builds and help others. :)

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Edit:  I just saw the $1100 budget (I am tired)... I would change a few things...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€184.29 @ Amazon Deutschland)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 87.0 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.28 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€77.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€56.06 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Sandisk X110 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€55.48 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.61 @ Home of Hardware DE)

Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 970 4GB JetStream Video Card  (€348.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€38.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€83.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€6.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) <<Front intake

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€6.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) <<Front intake

Total: €949.45

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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I would like to keep the case aswell as 16gigs of ram. would be a pretty good opinion in my eyes with the added features. should be still in the budget. 

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I would like to keep the case aswell as 16gigs of ram. would be a pretty good opinion in my eyes with the added features. should be still in the budget. 

 

I just made a PC that could easily handle everything at 1080p with little compromise (turning settings down), for as cheap as I could.

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Would be the ASRock B85M Pro4 Intel B85 enough to power the I5? I Would like to take the 16 gigs of ram, cuz 8 werent enough on my notebook. 

If i add the 850 Evo instead of the kingstons one, switch the cpu and the motherboard ill be at 1090€. Still a pretty good deal, if you guys think thats okay.

 

@Tedster I would like to keep an aio cooler, couse it looks damn pretty and fits nicely into the cooling style of the haf cube. would be a pretty nice air flow with it. 

 

If you are not overclocking, you don't really need AIO cooling.

 

I didnt planned on doing, but if you guys think, the hardware can handle it aswell as the cooler, i could ask my dad to get the best out of the cpu. he did that to his i7 from something 3.5 to 4.2 if i remember correctly. 

i need to thank u guys already, for the time u spend for me!

 

Overclocking is nice for getting the most for your money.

 

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For a non-overclocking build I would go with this...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€182.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€72.15 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€139.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  (€370.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Cooler Master HAF XB EVO ATX Desktop Case  (€90.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€97.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1056.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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7800X3D - MSI B650 MAG Tomahawk - 32GB 6000mhz CL30 - Gigabyte 3080 TI - 2TB NVME - 1000w PSU - ID Cooling 240mm AIO

 

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