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So I've heard Intel use crap Tim on their cpu chips, I have an i7 4790 and temps are ok but I was wondering what kind of temp drop would you see from deliding ? Can you change the tim to any like the artic silver 5? And once you delid can you put the lid back on ?.

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From what I know, delidding isn't worth it on haswell refresh because the TIM isn't as bad as normal haswell.

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So I've heard Intel use crap Tim on their cpu chips, I have an i7 4790 and temps are ok but I was wondering what kind of temp drop would you see from deliding ? Can you change the tim to any like the artic silver 5? And once you delid can you put the lid back on ?.

It was the thermal interface material on the 4770k and 4770 that caused a stir, it's part of the reason why Intel did the Haswell refresh, they just updated the power delivery and tim and the 4790k and 4790 were born.

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From what I know, delidding isn't worth it on haswell refresh because the TIM isn't as bad as normal haswell.

it still can make a big difference just ask @Lays , he did it to 2 cpus so far , and if yu have a chip like me with 3 cores 6c hotter then the other one ... lol 

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it still can make a big difference just ask @Lays , he did it to 2 cpus so far , and if yu have a chip like me with 3 cores 6c hotter then the other one ... lol 

I know it CAN but I was saying it's less likely to make a huge difference.

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it still can make a big difference just ask @Lays , he did it to 2 cpus so far , and if yu have a chip like me with 3 cores 6c hotter then the other one ... lol

My i7 4790 hits 50c on counter strike global offensive on the first two cores then the rest hit around 42, that's with a cyrorig r1 ultimate with a room temp of 19.5c, I think that's bad tbh.

For some reason today after an os reset my idle temps are spiking like crazy. They used to be mid 20s now they're in the 30s.

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And once you delid can you put the lid back on ?.

 

Yes, that's the normal way to do it. Leaving the lid off would require a different mounting method for the cooler, because the chip isn't going to be quite as tall, and the exposed silicon won't be able to handle the same mounting pressures as the aluminum heatspreader.

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Yes, that's the normal way to do it. Leaving the lid off would require a different mounting method for the cooler, because the chip isn't going to be quite as tall, and the exposed silicon won't be able to handle the same mounting pressures as the aluminum heatspreader.

Good to know thanks, could I use artic silver 5 on it ? And what's the best way to delid without a razor blade.

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From what I know, delidding isn't worth it on haswell refresh because the TIM isn't as bad as normal haswell.

 

it still can make a big difference just ask @Lays , he did it to 2 cpus so far , and if yu have a chip like me with 3 cores 6c hotter then the other one ... lol 

 

I know it CAN but I was saying it's less likely to make a huge difference.

 

 

There are people on the official delid thread dropping 10c+ from delidding devil's canyon chips.

 

I dropped 22c from delidding my 4770k, and like 12c on my G2358.

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My i7 4790 hits 50c on counter strike global offensive on the first two cores then the rest hit around 42, that's with a cyrorig r1 ultimate with a room temp of 19.5c, I think that's bad tbh.

For some reason today after an os reset my idle temps are spiking like crazy. They used to be mid 20s now they're in the 30s.

i wouldn't say those are terrible temps , but i get where your coming from. lower is better they say :P

 

im not deliding my cpu  , id send it to someone who knows what their doing xD (i break things rather easily)

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There are people on the official delid thread dropping 10c+ from delidding devil's canyon chips.

 

I dropped 22c from delidding my 4770k, and like 12c on my G2358.

I'm talking about Haswell Refresh doe..

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im not deliding my cpu  , id send it to someone who knows what their doing xD (i break things rather easily)

Same but only trustworthy one imo is that guy who bins chips and sell them at what speeds they do but wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too expensive for me in the UK

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I'm talking about Haswell Refresh doe..

he mentioned devils canyon which is haswell refresh.

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I'm talking about Haswell Refresh doe..

every degree c lower is a good thing man , lol especially with us overclockers xD

 

There are people on the official delid thread dropping 10c+ from delidding devil's canyon chips.

 

I dropped 22c from delidding my 4770k, and like 12c on my G2358.

did you put the lid back on after, or mount without the lid ? 

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every degree c lower is a good thing man , lol especially with us overclockers xD

 

did you put the lid back on after, or mount without the lid ? 

 

 

put IHS back on with gelid gc extreme inbetween.

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I'm talking about Haswell Refresh doe..

 

 

I just freaking said devil's canyon in my post, which IS haswell refresh.

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i iz much confuze

 

 

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I just freaking said devil's canyon in my post, which IS haswell refresh.

Come down bro no need to start flame wars here.

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Come down bro no need to start flame wars here.

 

he's my m8, it's fine 

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@Lays I didn't even know there was a thread. I delidded my 3570k ages ago and never posted. thing had the worst stock tim application

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@Lays I didn't even know there was a thread. I delidded my 3570k ages ago and never posted. thing had the worst stock tim application

 

 

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I don't have any razor blades -_- could a plastic card work? I'm gonna delid and use as5, 50c on a game is not good in my eyes especially not with such a well known cooler like a cryorig r1 ultimate. And that's with an i7 4790 at 1.050v.

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I don't have any razor blades -_- could a plastic card work? I'm gonna delid and use as5, 50c on a game is not good in my eyes especially not with such a well known cooler like a cryo

I saw an article where they benched the cryorig r1 ultimate on a 4770k which is not delidded in aida64

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6083/cryorig-r1-ultimate-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

 

 

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