First Build, need some guidance!

[Harido]

Hello all, 

 

I am in need of some experienced insight on a build I am working on. A little bit of information about what I want the build for is below along with the list of parts.

 

I am majoring in Graphic Design so I need my computer to run all editing software smoothly. I am also a gamer, this is my first ever PC aside from a crappy laptop but I don't consider that anything really because it can't even run the most basic games. Budget is kind of tricky, I don't want to pay an arm and leg or an overkill PC but at the same time I know that quality costs. We can discuss budgets if you think there are better ( better meaning better performance for my needs not better on the market) parts out there.

 

Here is the list I came up with with some research. Thank you all in advance

 

 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MhLYK8

 

this is the case I chose but could not find it on pcpartpicker

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005

[minibois]

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This is a PCPartPicker link to the case:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc600twmwht

 

Will look at your build for a sec

 

EDIT: PSU is waaaaay overkill. Even for SLI 970 and OC'ed CPU.

GO for 750W Max really.

And you should really add an, at least, 256GB SSD. Something like a Samsung 850 EVO should suit you well.

[MrChavelo]

Overkill PSU, change it to the G2 Supernova 750

[Swndlr]

I fixed it up a bit

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($122.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card  ($334.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  ($39.95 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U2715H 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($492.66 @ B&H)
Total: $2042.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-08 09:23 EDT-0400

[Harido]

This is a PCPartPicker link to the case:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc600twmwht

 

Will look at your build for a sec

oh snap haha thanks!

[minibois]

oh snap haha thanks!

Edited my post, please take a look at it (I fully agree with @Swndlr's suggestions)

[Harido]

I fixed it up a bit

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($122.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card  ($334.99 @ B&H)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ NCIX US)

Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  ($39.95 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Dell U2715H 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($492.66 @ B&H)

Total: $2042.43

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-08 09:23 EDT-0400

 

Thank you for your response

 

Why did you go with the MSI X99s motherboard and why 4 4GB RAM instead of 2 8GB RAM? 

[Harido]

Overkill PSU, change it to the G2 Supernova 750

 

Someone told me recently that it was better to have the 1000w, why is 750 more suitable? I am trying to learn as much as I can about computers

[Harido]

This is a PCPartPicker link to the case:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc600twmwht

 

Will look at your build for a sec

 

EDIT: PSU is waaaaay overkill. Even for SLI 970 and OC'ed CPU.

GO for 750W Max really.

And you should really add an, at least, 256GB SSD. Something like a Samsung 850 EVO should suit you well.

 

I was thinking about SSD but I didn't know if I needed it or not. 

[Atmos]

Thank you for your response

 

Why did you go with the MSI X99s motherboard and why 4 4GB RAM instead of 2 8GB RAM? 

 

4x4gb will give you slightly better performance, as then it will run in quad channel, as opposed to dual channel. In most cases, you would not see an improvment, but in the case of editing, rendering, and doing very ram heavy processes, quad channel makes enough of a difference to warrant the extra slots it takes up.

 

 

 

 

Someone told me recently that it was better to have the 1000w, why is 750 more suitable? I am trying to learn as much as I can about computers 

 

 

1000W is so beyond overkill in both wattage and price its hilarious. Even a 750w psu is more than enough for the system. You can let your wallet take a break and not see any sort of a difference in your system with a 750W, as opposed to a 1000W.

 

That is kind of right though. You always want a cushion in power supplies. If your system at full draw pulls around 500 watts, then look at a 750W psu preferably. if it pulls 335W, then aim for a 550W psu. And if you're one of the few out there pulling in excess of 900-1200 watts, then you get dual 1000W powersupplies because you obviously don't care about money and can blow some on mindless spending.

[Guest Johnny5g]

Seams good to me.

[MrChavelo]

Someone told me recently that it was better to have the 1000w, why is 750 more suitable? I am trying to learn as much as I can about computers

Because the 1000w PSU will run at 50% load max, PSU's are designed to run at 70-90%. And the 750w is cheaper too

[Guest]

I was thinking about SSD but I didn't know if I needed it or not. 

The SSD will help, it's faster than Hard drives and are suitable for storing games and the OS

[minibois]

I was thinking about SSD but I didn't know if I needed it or not. 

Needed? No.

Helpful? Very much.

Not sure what softwares you use, but I assume you use Photoshop which will start up a loooot faster with an SSD. Your PC will start up lots faster too, compared to HDD only

[Harido]

4x4gb will give you slightly better performance, as then it will run in quad channel, as opposed to dual channel. In most cases, you would not see an improvment, but in the case of editing, rendering, and doing very ram heavy processes, quad channel makes enough of a difference to warrant the extra slots it takes up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1000W is so beyond overkill in both wattage and price its hilarious. Even a 750w psu is more than enough for the system. You can let your wallet take a break and not see any sort of a difference in your system with a 750W, as opposed to a 1000W.

 

That is kind of right though. You always want a cushion in power supplies. If your system at full draw pulls around 500 watts, then look at a 750W psu preferably. if it pulls 335W, then aim for a 550W psu. And if you're one of the few out there pulling in excess of 900-1200 watts, then you get dual 1000W powersupplies because you obviously don't care about money and can blow some on mindless spending.

 

Okay that makes alot of sense thanks, I will go with 4 4GB RAM but how do I know how much power I am going to be pulling from my computer? What does someone have to be doing is they are pulling 900-1200 watts?

[Swndlr]

Thank you for your response

 

Why did you go with the MSI X99s motherboard and why 4 4GB RAM instead of 2 8GB RAM? 

MSI mobo because good looks and lower price point with same features

4x4 kit because X99 and DDR4 can better utilize memory in quad channel and give some better performance.

[Harido]

Needed? No.

Helpful? Very much.

Not sure what softwares you use, but I assume you use Photoshop which will start up a loooot faster with an SSD. Your PC will start up lots faster too, compared to HDD only

 

Well the software I would like to use is Photoshop, Illustrator, Adobe premiere and Aftereffects, and Sony vegas. Maybe some of them at the same time. Will 256GB be enough for the OS and games and software, or should I go a little higher?

[Atmos]

Okay that makes alot of sense thanks, I will go with 4 4GB RAM but how do I know how much power I am going to be pulling from my computer? What does someone have to be doing is they are pulling 900-1200 watts?

 

You could quite easily pull over a 1000W with just dual R9 295x2's. They each at load pull about 670 watts, but that's because each of those cards is two 290x's. so 4 cards. In that case, you would need to have two power supplies.

 

You can get a rough estimate of what your system will pull wattage wise, by taking the TDP of the processor, and the tdp of the gpu and adding them together, then just tacking on 5 watts for each hdd and 10 watts for every 4gb of ram. that'll roughly equal mild use on the machine. Multiply that number by 20% and add that on to the original to get what the system can pull if fully strained across the board. (unlikely, but possible situation) then a system at idle pulls virtually no wattage from the wall.

 

Or if that's too much work for you, you can do what the rest of us do any look at pcpartpicker's estimated wattage calculator at the top of the list. they tend to underball the fook out of it though.

[Harido]

MSI mobo because good looks and lower price point with same features

4x4 kit because X99 and DDR4 can better utilize memory in quad channel and give some better performance.

 

Great! Thanks

 

Someone recommended another motherboard to me a couple of weeks ago and said it has amazing features but when I looks it up I found that it has terrible reviews. 

 

This is the board, do you know anything about it?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128746&cm_re=GA-X99-Gaming_7_WIFI-_-13-128-746-_-Product

[Guest]

Well the software I would like to use is Photoshop, Illustrator, Adobe premiere and Aftereffects, and Sony vegas. Maybe some of them at the same time. Will 256GB be enough for the OS and games and software, or should I go a little higher?

Unless you're on a budget then 256 GB is enough

[minibois]

Okay that makes alot of sense thanks, I will go with 4 4GB RAM but how do I know how much power I am going to be pulling from my computer? What does someone have to be doing is they are pulling 900-1200 watts?

 

And 4 very high end GPU's (Titan X, 980 Ti, 780 Ti, etc.) might mean you need so much.

 

Well the software I would like to use is Photoshop, Illustrator, Adobe premiere and Aftereffects, and Sony vegas. Maybe some of them at the same time. Will 256GB be enough for the OS and games and software, or should I go a little higher?

It will be enough. You can always later add another SSD if you don't find it enough

[Harido]

You could quite easily pull over a 1000W with just dual R9 295x2's. They each at load pull about 670 watts, but that's because each of those cards is two 290x's. so 4 cards. In that case, you would need to have two power supplies.

 

You can get a rough estimate of what your system will pull wattage wise, by taking the TDP of the processor, and the tdp of the gpu and adding them together, then just tacking on 5 watts for each hdd and 10 watts for every 4gb of ram. that'll roughly equal mild use on the machine. Multiply that number by 20% and add that on to the original to get what the system can pull if fully strained across the board. (unlikely, but possible situation) then a system at idle pulls virtually no wattage from the wall.

 

Or if that's too much work for you, you can do what the rest of us do any look at pcpartpicker's estimated wattage calculator at the top of the list. they tend to underball the fook out of it though.

 

Alright let me ask you this, I plan on going triple monitor possibly next year with three 1440p monitors. I assume that would use more Watts because I would need one graphics card per monitor right? So, would it be wise to invest in a higher watt power supple now or just get 750 and when the times come just upgrade? 

[Harido]

 

And 4 very high end GPU's (Titan X, 980 Ti, 780 Ti, etc.) might mean you need so much.

 

It will be enough. You can always later add another SSD if you don't find it enough

 

Okay great! I will get just one for now thanks

 

Is the GPU I chose good? Will it run most everything at high settings?

[Atmos]

Alright let me ask you this, I plan on going triple monitor possibly next year with three 1440p monitors. I assume that would use more Watts because I would need one graphics card per monitor right? So, would it be wise to invest in a higher watt power supple now or just get 750 and when the times come just upgrade? 

 

You could run all of them off of a single gpu if you wanted to, and were motivated enough to. If you wanted to game on 3 1440p monitors though, then you would need a far better gpu setup as you thought, just not a 1:1 ratio of gpu:monitor Heck, you could run all of those monitors on a 970 and do normal computer things just fine, but if you tried to do any sort of gaming on them then you'd run into issues. For that task I'd really suggest getting like dual 980's or dual 290X 8gb's. but those are both very expensive options. In either of those cases you could probably get away with running dual 980's off of a 750W power supply, if it was from a top tier manufacturer, however, that would be starting to push it. In that case I'd rec. a 850W PSU. So, yes you're kinda right, just a little short on the end result.

 

If you wanted to game on the 3x1440p? then yes, get a 850W, cause you will need dual 980's, dual 780ti's, or dual 290X 8gb's.

 

A 970 cannot run 3x1440p monitors in gaming. Even quad sli 970's cannot game on 3x1440p monitors with current vram technology. Their stunted 3.5gb instead of the full 4gb does make a huge impact the higher you go in resolution. For 1440p gaming dual 980's, 780ti's, or 290x 8gb's are pretty much required.

[Guest]

Alright let me ask you this, I plan on going triple monitor possibly next year with three 1440p monitors. I assume that would use more Watts because I would need one graphics card per monitor right? So, would it be wise to invest in a higher watt power supple now or just get 750 and when the times come just upgrade? 

You don't need on GPU per monitor with today's cards plus the monitors wouldn't take much power draw anyways

 

Okay great! I will get just one for now thanks

 

Is the GPU I chose good? Will it run most everything at high settings?

Yes, it's enough for gaming on high settings at 1080p

Considering your future plans though, I dont think it will be enough for 3 1440p monitors in the future unless you play on them at 1080p