Overclocking console replacement.

[Prysin]

@Faceman
I have no idea where or what that second image you posted comes from, but i too can write some text on a page and slap some percentages ontop with a jenky conclusion.
 
The I did say midrange, and yes, it is around midrange i3, slightly worse in the benchmark you showed. Then again, you linked a ubisoft title. Which is the worst piece of crap you can put on a CPU, and even if the CPU wasnt dragging you down, all the other crap from ubisofts side WOULD.
 
Now, these are APUs, but they are essentially better binned and OCd 860ks

 

 

Is the i3 4330 quicker then the 7850k (the 860k is slightly slower then the 7850k, surprisingly enough its hard to find good well known sources for the Athlon). However price wise it makes more sense to grab a 69 USD 860k that you CAN OC, then a locked 4330 that costs 125+ USD especially given how close they are. HOWEVER, the intel has other sides to it, and better instruction sets. So while some benchmarks ignore this, others such as pure web browsing based benchmarks show the benefit of high IPC coupled with a broader spectrum of instruction sets.

 

The i3 is still an all round winner, even if the 860k can compete.

[Faceman]

@Faceman

I have no idea where or what that second image you posted comes from, but i too can write some text on a page and slap some percentages ontop with a jenky conclusion.

 

The I did say midrange, and yes, it is around midrange i3, slightly worse in the benchmark you showed. Then again, you linked a ubisoft title. Which is the worst piece of crap you can put on a CPU, and even if the CPU wasnt dragging you down, all the other crap from ubisofts side WOULD.

 

Now, these are APUs, but they are essentially better binned and OCd 860ks

 

 

Is the i3 4330 quicker then the 7850k (the 860k is slightly slower then the 7850k, surprisingly enough its hard to find good well known sources for the Athlon). However price wise it makes more sense to grab a 69 USD 860k that you CAN OC, then a locked 4330 that costs 125+ USD especially given how close they are. HOWEVER, the intel has other sides to it, and better instruction sets. So while some benchmarks ignore this, others such as pure web browsing based benchmarks show the benefit of high IPC coupled with a broader spectrum of instruction sets.

 

The i3 is still an all round winner, even if the 860k can compete.

It comes from userbenchmark.  USER submitted results. Here is the source.

 

I just typed in i3 vs. 860k and that was one of the benchmarks that popped up, here are some more:

 

 

4.6Ghz is a pretty robust OC for the 860k, and is still falling behind the i3. The i3 costs $100-$109, not $125+.

 

The fact remains you continue to recommend products that *compete*, yet ultimately fall behind when you could just recommend a product that wins at almost everything at the same price point, while having vastly superior performance in certain games, and in certain workloads all while having an upgrade path. 

 

Please, hop off the FM2+ socket d%^ unless the situation absolutely calls for it.  You are recommend a sub-par product.  No one is debating that they compete, they can absolutely compete, but they aren't better, and aren't cheaper.  Its like you have to award the FM2+ CPUs a participation ribbon.  Yea, they showed up, competed, but they don't win, and they cannot evolve into a winner.

[Prysin]

@Faceman

What is the point of forcing something down someones throat if they are not specifically looking for it heh?

 

OP of this thread specifically said OVERCLOCKING. So when it comes to OVERCLOCKING, you cannot do that on a i3. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Now the 860k for all intents and purposes perform admirably given its price. The G3258 is great, it also, for the time being, have an upgrade path. It also only have 2 threads. Which in some games are no problem, and in others IS. Because some games simply doesnt let it run the game due to lack of threads.

[Faceman]

@Faceman

What is the point of forcing something down someones throat if they are not specifically looking for it heh?

 

OP of this thread specifically said OVERCLOCKING. So when it comes to OVERCLOCKING, you cannot do that on a i3. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Now the 860k for all intents and purposes perform admirably given its price. The G3258 is great, it also, for the time being, have an upgrade path. It also only have 2 threads. Which in some games are no problem, and in others IS. Because some games simply doesnt let it run the game due to lack of threads.

Because sometimes they aren't aware of what is the best performing option.

 

Here is an example of something I experienced personally on this forum:

 

I recently moved and needed to switch from hardline internet to wireless. I created a thread asking about what kind of wifi router and wifi PCI card I should buy.  Someone mentioned a HardLine adapter, something I had never heard of before.  Something completely different from what I asked, but ended up being a much cheaper, and much better option than wireless.  Am I angry at this person because they knew better and recommended me something different than what I asked in an area that I am not experienced in?  Absolutely fucking not!  That is why I asked what I should do, even if it was something I wasn't aware of and had never heard of before, it turned out to be the vastly superior option!  Did that person derail the thread by suggesting something other than what I asked?  NO!  He enriched it, and ended up making me happy by providing the best performing solution regardless of what I asked.

 

Just because the OP didn't ask about non-overclocking components doesn't mean he shouldn't be made aware that with a different processor, he won't have to overclock to get vastly superior performance. By the way, you can overclock an i3 with FSB.  Its not the same as multiplier, but it can still be done to get an extra 2-300Mhz and even further best an 860k.  Plus, he said he wants to learn overclocking for his future build.  Overclocking FM2+ is very different from Haswell, and from your own admission, much more difficult.  Its like training in a different sport.

 

Hop off the FM2+ d*^&.  It is not a good recommendation outside of very specific situations.