700$ gaming pc

[Shockers8710]

plus id rather an ssd for faster load and boot times plus i have a hdd around. 

[Shockers8710]

what would be better for strictly gaming amd fx6300 6 core or i3 4160 or pentium g325 oc to 4.7 ghz? 

[TheConverter]

Any amd options? I'm open to anything that gives better performance.

 

Hey, first of all, glad you want to join the glorious master race.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card  ($263.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Antec ISK600 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $659.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-26 11:33 EDT-0400

 

 

It's cheap,compact, silent and acts like a tiny spaceheater  :rolleyes:

[Shockers8710]

 

 

Hey, first of all, glad you want to join the glorious master race.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card  ($263.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Antec ISK600 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $659.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-26 11:33 EDT-0400

 

Thanks for the help but that is us pricing i live in Canada where they inflate pc part prices.

[TheConverter]

Thanks for the help but that is us pricing i live in Canada where they inflate pc part prices.

 

Good joke, wait until you see Europe's prices 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($218.50 @ shopRBC) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($68.25 @ Vuugo) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($72.00 @ Vuugo) 

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card  ($371.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: Antec ISK600 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($53.18 @ DirectCanada) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.99 @ NCIX) 

Total: $883.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-26 11:37 EDT-0400

 

The list above is 659 USD so that's 814 CAD

 

So 69 more CAD isn't that bad.

[Shockers8710]

Yeah but i need to keep it as close to 700$ as i can i have a strict budget. 

[Shockers8710]

This is what i change based on everyones opinion 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Q9wxK8

Anymore changes?

[Shockers8710]

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($79.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($67.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ NCIX) 

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($60.75 @ Vuugo) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card  ($246.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.00 @ Vuugo) 

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Total: $699.65

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-26 10:46 EDT-0400

 

what about this http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Q9wxK8

[TheConverter]

This is what i change based on everyones opinion 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Q9wxK8

Anymore changes?

 

I don't know man, you seem to waste your budget on expensive motherboard,ram and case.

 

That dual core cpu would bottleneck any decent card.

 

And why a 960? It's very overpriced for what you get. 

 

A R9 280X beats the shit out of a 960 as shown in this video:

 

 

It's 270$ in Canada: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h280xqm3g2m

 

 

So the cheapest quad core + mini-itx motherboard + R9 280X would make a beast system.

[Dzzope]

it's $35 over but has an i5, 960 and SSd..

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/qkb7Jx

[TheConverter]

You can squeeze an i5 in there but do have to sacrifice the SSD.

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/tqNrBm

 

I thought we agreeded that we shouldn't support Nvidia for what they are doing, and in this case the 280X is way bettter then a 960. And it has 3GB of vram which is minimum for today's standards.

 

The only reason one should get a 960 is if they have a 4K TV with HDMI 2.0 and want to game on it at 60HZ. They would still be bottlenecked by that 2GB of vram in most games.

[The Official Czex]

what about this http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Q9wxK8

 

Lacking storage. Unless you plan on upgrading in the future.

[TheConverter]

Lacking storage. Unless you plan on upgrading in the future.

 

Storage is his least concern. He could get a external drive after finishing his build.

[Shockers8710]

I don't know man, you seem to waste your budget on expensive motherboard,ram and case.

 

That dual core cpu would bottleneck any decent card.

 

And why a 960? It's very overpriced for what you get. 

 

A R9 280X beats the shit out of a 960 as shown in this video:

 

 

It's 270$ in Canada: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h280xqm3g2m

 

 

So the cheapest quad core + mini-itx motherboard + R9 280X would make a beast system.

960 is cheaper by a bit and I'm just doing 1080p not many aaa titles and i have a 2tb drive laying around. Plus if you go through the thread you'll realize why we got a better mother board.

[Shockers8710]

the 2tb drive is external.

[Dzzope]

I don't know man, you seem to waste your budget on expensive motherboard,ram and case.

 

That dual core cpu would bottleneck any decent card.

 

And why a 960? It's very overpriced for what you get. 

 

So the cheapest quad core + mini-itx motherboard + R9 280X would make a beast system.

Agreed on the case / board / ram but really the 280X is too expensive in the build if he wants an SSD, the 960 at 230 fits and beats a 285/280..

[Dzzope]

I thought we agreeded that we shouldn't support Nvidia for what they are doing, and in this case the 280X is way bettter then a 960. And it has 3GB of vram which is minimum for today's standards.

 

The only reason one should get a 960 is if they have a 4K TV with HDMI 2.0 and want to game on it at 60HZ. They would still be bottlenecked by that 2GB of vram in most games.

Who agreed?

 

The 280x is a better card in raw performance.. but if he wants an i5 and an ssd, then thats out of the picture at 270 bucks.. the 960 is the next best thing that still puts him slightly over.

[Dzzope]

the 2tb drive is external.

Can be removed from the enclosure and put inside the build very easily.

[Shockers8710]

Who agreed?

 

The 280x is a better card in raw performance.. but if he wants an i5 and an ssd, then thats out of the picture at 270 bucks.. the 960 is the next best thing that still puts him slightly over.

 

 

Agreed on the case / board / ram but really the 280X is too expensive in the build if he wants an SSD, the 960 at 230 fits and beats a 285/280..

The motherboard reasoning is on the first page ram is cheap for canada and the case is for cable management for the non-modualer power supply. Plus 280X just beat the 960 and i  prefer nvidia but i would put a amd gpu in it out performed the 960 for the same price.

[Shockers8710]

I thought we agreeded that we shouldn't support Nvidia for what they are doing, and in this case the 280X is way bettter then a 960. And it has 3GB of vram which is minimum for today's standards.

 

The only reason one should get a 960 is if they have a 4K TV with HDMI 2.0 and want to game on it at 60HZ. They would still be bottlenecked by that 2GB of vram in most games.

Okay then what would you build for 700$ CANADIAN not going over even more then 10$

[TheConverter]

Can be removed from the enclosure and put inside the build very easily.

 

Indeed. I plan to use only ssd's in my next build (250GB for OS/Programs and 500GB for Games only). And then use my current external 3TB hdd for storage.

 

I just hate the noise hdd's make 

 

They also take extra space in the case.

[Dzzope]

The motherboard reasoning is on the first page ram is cheap for canada and the case is for cable management for the non-modualer power supply. Plus 280X just beat the 960 and i  prefer nvidia but i would put a amd gpu in it out performed the 960 for the same price.

Not really a reason when you can flash the bios off a usb key or similar.. or if you have a friend / relative that has an older chip that would work (or local computer store to buy off / ask to update the bios, hell even a member who may live near you..) and save the cash vs a board with no real physical advantage.

 

On the case.. Just no.. you can manage cables in the oldest and feature lacking of cases.. modern cases are way over engineered.. Nice to have, yes.. but not at the cost of performance..

On your budget look at function over fashion. A few cable ties and the bottom of the hdd cage and your done..

Besides, the CX430M (semi-modular) is only $3 more...

 

I agree on the 960, the 280x just isn't worth the extra spend.. especially at your budget.

 

 

Would you consider used?

I'm sure you could get an old unlocked i5 + board, ram, case and psu and still have enough to get a used 290 and new ssd..

Go scrapyard wars on that budget.. you'll get a rocking rig, just not the latest or greatest (not that you will anyway)

[Shockers8710]

Not really a reason when you can flash the bios off a usb key or similar.. or if you have a friend / relative that has an older chip that would work (or local computer store to buy off / ask to update the bios, hell even a member who may live near you..) and save the cash vs a board with no real physical advantage.

 

On the case.. Just no.. you can manage cables in the oldest and feature lacking of cases.. modern cases are way over engineered.. Nice to have, yes.. but not at the cost of performance..

On your budget look at function over fashion. A few cable ties and the bottom of the hdd cage and your done..

Besides, the CX430M (semi-modular) is only $3 more...

 

I agree on the 960, the 280x just isn't worth the extra spend.. especially at your budget.

 

 

Would you consider used?

I'm sure you could get an old unlocked i5 + board, ram, case and psu and still have enough to get a used 290 and new ssd..

Go scrapyard wars on that budget.. you'll get a rocking rig, just not the latest or greatest (not that you will anyway)

No I wouldn't i just don't trust and where i live thats not possible. i live in a city but no one here pc games, they all use consoles. Sadly.

Plus my pc part picker i set up to use the 4 websites i trust. Newell, nix, amazon, and canada computers so the prices are a bit different but ill try rebuilding it skimping out on a couple things.

[Shockers8710]

Not really a reason when you can flash the bios off a usb key or similar.. or if you have a friend / relative that has an older chip that would work (or local computer store to buy off / ask to update the bios, hell even a member who may live near you..) and save the cash vs a board with no real physical advantage.

 

On the case.. Just no.. you can manage cables in the oldest and feature lacking of cases.. modern cases are way over engineered.. Nice to have, yes.. but not at the cost of performance..

On your budget look at function over fashion. A few cable ties and the bottom of the hdd cage and your done..

Besides, the CX430M (semi-modular) is only $3 more...

 

I agree on the 960, the 280x just isn't worth the extra spend.. especially at your budget.

 

 

Would you consider used?

I'm sure you could get an old unlocked i5 + board, ram, case and psu and still have enough to get a used 290 and new ssd..

Go scrapyard wars on that budget.. you'll get a rocking rig, just not the latest or greatest (not that you will anyway)

One (bit more expensive then other) http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/P8yGzy

Two ( bit cheaper)                              http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6fRDdC

[Dzzope]

One (bit more expensive then other) http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/P8yGzy

Two ( bit cheaper)                              http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6fRDdC

Or you could be smart and get the lowest price from anywhere and then price-match.. Ncix and memory express do this I believe

 

$20 over.. gives i5 and better quality ssd (the V300, you just don't know what parts are being used)

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/mfCNHx

 

These days, you really want an i3 or i5 at least... yes the pentium overclocks like a boss but multiple cores are getting more and more important.. Fair enough you don't play many games which takes advantage of it yet.. but how long do you want the build to last?

 

The pentium WILL start to bottleneck you.. I find it hard to believe H1Z1 doesn't use at least 2 cores... then what does the system use, got skype open? steam? music? web page?

Even without these, give it a year or 2 and you WILL be playing games that need more cores and then you'll have to upgrade again.

And if money for upgrades wasn't an issue, we wouldn't be trying to fit a whole build in what many are spending on a GPU.. The smart option here is the i5, it'll allow you to do more and allow the machine to last longer, thus getting you more value for your money.