Need a gaming CPU

[kiicki]

I decided to make another post since there has been some change of plans. My first attempt was to buy a CPU that was max 200 dollars, but since I want Intel that is not possible.
Not from where I come from atleast.
All i7 are to expensive. i3 is not good enough since I need 4 cores.
Reason I want Intel is because I want to play some really old games.

My Nvidia doesn't run the really old games. It either crashes or blinks.
When I use my Intel graphics (CPU) it works. 

So I decided to use Max 250 dollars this time, This is my list. What should I pick? And it needs to be on the list.
If you think you know of a CPU that would be better, Don't bother. It's either to expensive or not in stock, but you could try me and I will check : )

What I do on the PC?

Most games, but also music editing. Sometimes Photoshop but that is just now and then. Not that important.
 

 

Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz 1945 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4570 @ 3.20GHz 1952 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.20GHz 1730 Kr 224 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz 1849 Kr 239 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4440 @ 3.10GHz 1737 Kr 225 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4430 @ 3.00GHz 1839 Kr 238 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4440S @ 2.80GHz 1799 Kr 233 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3340 @ 3.10GHz 2000 Kr 259 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4430S @ 2.70GHz 1863 Kr 241 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3330 @ 3.00GHz 1752 Kr 227 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4590T @ 2.00GHz 1863 Kr 241 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4570T @ 2.90GHz 1898 Kr 245 Dollar Cores 2 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz 1161 Kr 150 Dollar Cores 2 Threads 4

 

[Lotus]

Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.20GHz 1730 Kr 224 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 

[Vek1313]

I decided to make another post since there has been some change of plans. My first attempt was to buy a CPU that was max 200 dollars, but since I want Intel that is not possible.

Not from where I come from atleast.

All i7 are to expensive. i3 is not good enough since I need 4 cores.

Reason I want Intel is because I want to play some really old games.

My Nvidia doesn't run the really old games. It either crashes or blinks.

When I use my Intel graphics (CPU) it works. 

So I decided to use Max 250 dollars this time, This is my list. What should I pick? And it needs to be on the list.

If you think you know of a CPU that would be better, Don't bother. It's either to expensive or not in stock, but you could try me and I will check : )

What I do on the PC?

Most games, but also music editing. Sometimes Photoshop but that is just now and then. Not that important.

 

 

Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz 1945 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4570 @ 3.20GHz 1952 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.20GHz 1730 Kr 224 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz 1849 Kr 239 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4440 @ 3.10GHz 1737 Kr 225 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4430 @ 3.00GHz 1839 Kr 238 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4440S @ 2.80GHz 1799 Kr 233 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3340 @ 3.10GHz 2000 Kr 259 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4430S @ 2.70GHz 1863 Kr 241 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3330 @ 3.00GHz 1752 Kr 227 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4590T @ 2.00GHz 1863 Kr 241 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-4570T @ 2.90GHz 1898 Kr 245 Dollar Cores 2 Threads 4   

Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz 1161 Kr 150 Dollar Cores 2 Threads 4

4460

[Cwis3man]

i5 4690k it's cheaper than some of the ones you've listed and better

[s3ns3]

i5 4460

[Zagnip]

i5 4690k it's cheaper than some of the ones you've listed and better

I agree with this because of overclocking potential, but if you can't then 4460 

[Fredrikmikael]

If you have a decent aftermarket CPU cooler, you would get more performance per NOK getting the 4690k and overclocking.

[Leonard]

I would get the 4440 and see if i can't get an extra 20mhz by increasing the blck/straps.

[kiicki]

i5 4690k it's cheaper than some of the ones you've listed and better

That one costs 284 dollars where I'm from : /

That's why it's not on the list.

 

[kiicki]

I agree with this because of overclocking potential, but if you can't then 4460 

4460K costs 283 dollars, : /

[Zagnip]

That one costs 284 dollars where I'm from : /

That's why it's not on the list.

 

that sucks, I can find it online for under 200 atm

[kiicki]

that sucks, I can find it online for under 200 atm

Yeah, but that would need shipping to Norway. It will take forever and the shipping will also cost a bunch.

[Zagnip]

Yeah, but that would need shipping to Norway. It will take forever and the shipping will also cost a bunch.

you can get it on amazon for 230~ they have free shipping right... but yea it will probably take quite some time to arrive...

[Nena Trinity]

4460 is good a guy I know never had issues with it!

 

Some FPS lag while 100+ Zombies hunted him in H1Z1 but besides that all good!

[Ralph Schaddelee]

4570s

vs the 4460 it's cheaper, uses less power, will turbo to 3,6GHz (instead of 3,4) and the GPU is slightly faster (1,15 GHz vs 1,1 GHz)

 

if any 46xx-K versions are available - get those and overclock it.

[Ralph Schaddelee]

you can get it on amazon for 230~ they have free shipping right... but yea it will probably take quite some time to arrive...

To other countries it's not even free.

I don't know about Norway, but import tax may be a thing too.

 

If i understand correctly, Norway is not part of the European Union either, but it has a trade agreement with the European countries? So if you bought of Amazon UK or DE i think you wouldn't need to pay import tax either way? Both Amazon UK and DE have quite good shipping rates - if you can find a seller that will send to foreign countries.

 

//edit nevermind, below USD 250 or about NKR 2000 is not going to happen on amazon in the EU.

Edited June 19, 2015 by Ralph Schaddelee

[kiicki]

To other countries it's not even free.

I don't know about Norway, but import tax may be a thing too.

 

If i understand correctly, Norway is not part of the European Union either, but it has a trade agreement with the European countries? So if you bought of Amazon UK or DE i think you wouldn't need to pay import tax either way? Both Amazon UK and DE have quite good shipping rates - if you can find a seller that will send to foreign countries.

 

//edit nevermind, below USD 250 or about NKR 2000 is not going to happen on amazon in the EU.

Almost correct. They are not in EU but they have a agreement.

You need to pay import taxes. If you buy something for more than 32 dollars, you need to pay import taxes. So the best and the cheapest would be to buy from Norway.

[SteveGrabowski0]

The i5-4590 is the best choice on your list, as it turbos 300 MHz higher than does the i5-4460 when using all cores. A 9% stronger CPU for 12.5% higher price is probably worth it.

[kiicki]

The i5-4590 is the best choice on your list, as it turbos 300 MHz higher than does the i5-4460 when using all cores. A 9% stronger CPU for 12.5% higher price is probably worth it.

Yes, it got the best score but.

 

For me it comes down too this 5

 

 

Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz 1945 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4570 @ 3.20GHz 1952 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.20GHz 1730 Kr 224 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600

 

But

 

 

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600

 

This two is pretty simular to the others, but they use less power.

Isn't less power, less heat?

[SteveGrabowski0]

 

Yes, it got the best score but.

 

For me it comes down too this 5

 

 

Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz 1945 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4570 @ 3.20GHz 1952 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.20GHz 1730 Kr 224 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600

 

But

 

 

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600

 

This two is pretty simular to the others, but they use less power.

Isn't less power, less heat?

 

 

I don't know how the S chips work, but I would guess they would throttle to stay at 65W. You might end up playing your games at 2.9GHz on the 4570S vs 3.5 GHz on the 4590 non S.

[s3ns3]

The i5-4590 is the best choice on your list, as it turbos 300 MHz higher than does the i5-4460 when using all cores. A 9% stronger CPU for 12.5% higher price is probably worth it.

for 1 fps? no

 

 

4570s

vs the 4460 it's cheaper, uses less power, will turbo to 3,6GHz (instead of 3,4) and the GPU is slightly faster (1,15 GHz vs 1,1 GHz)

man,the 4570s is good but turbo isn't on all cores. i recommend the baseclock of over 3ghz

 

 

and K cpus are not necesary for gaming at all,OC is more like a hobby nowadays

 

i5 4460 is preety high end for gaming.

Edited June 19, 2015 by s3ns3

[kiicki]

I don't know how the S chips work, but I would guess they would throttle to stay at 65W. You might end up playing your games at 2.9GHz on the 4570S vs 3.5 GHz on the 4590 non S.

I have updated the list. I will check now how the S performs.

I included how much power they use.

 

 

Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz 1945 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Rating 7.8 84 W   

Intel Core i5-4570 @ 3.20GHz 1952 Kr 252 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Rating 7.7 84 W   

Intel Core i5-4590S @ 3.00GHz 1984 Kr 257 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Rating 7.9 65 W   

Intel Core i5-4570S @ 2.90GHz 1599 Kr 207 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Rating 7.7 65 W   

Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.20GHz 1730 Kr 224 Dollar Cores 4 Threads 4 Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Rating 7.7 84 W

Also ratings from cpuboss.com

But thos ratings doen't matter I guess.

[kiicki]

for 1 fps? no

 

 

man,the 4570s is good but turbo isn't on all cores. i recommend the baseclock of over 3ghz

 

 

and K cpus are not necesary for gaming at all,OC is more like a hobby nowadays

 

i5 4460 is preety high end for gaming.

This PC isn't only for gaming. I do some music editing. I don't know what I need to look for when it comes to CPU's.

The CPU's that ends with ''S'' I don't have a cloue on what means.

But should I avoid everyting that is ''S'' ''K'' and letters like that?

[Ralph Schaddelee]

oh crap, yeah the S versions only boost 2 cores. then i would avoid those indeed.

 

K = unlocked, but the base clock is also higher. don't necessarily avoid those, but weigh the higher clock speeds against the higher cost.

If you find any chip with C behind it - that's the latest generation. iGPU will be faster, IPC is a bit faster and power consumption is lower. 

 

other than that, yeah 4460

[kiicki]

oh crap, yeah the S versions only boost 2 cores. then i would avoid those indeed.

 

K = unlocked, but the base clock is also higher. don't necessarily avoid those, but weigh the higher clock speeds against the higher cost.

If you find any chip with C behind it - that's the latest generation. iGPU will be faster, IPC is a bit faster and power consumption is lower. 

 

other than that, yeah 4460

Thanks, people really prefer the 4460 so I think I wil ltake it. 

Also how do you know that the S version only boosts 2 cores? How can I check that?

Also, is hyperthreading imortant when it comes to video editing and things like that?