Need help/advice for building my loop

[Martzel]

I'm thinking about watercooling my rig, but I'm new to watercooling and need some help, advice.

First of all my PC:

CPU: Intel i7 2700k @3,5GHz Turboboost:3,9-4,2GHz

RAM: GEiL 16GB DDR3 1600MHz

Mainboard: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

GPU: H.I.S AMD Radeon HD7970 @1,1GHz

SSD: 500GB Damsung 840 Evo

HDD: 1TB WesternDigital

PSU: 850W Corsair Full Modular

Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer

CPU-Cooler:need to look up

(If voltages or something else are needed tell me please)

I also have some questions:

1. Is more water in the water better?

2. The CPU/GPU heats up because of the resistence, when tempetature rises the resistence rises and therefore the temperature rises more and so on. If the temperature stays low the resistence is not that high and therefore less heat output. Or am I wrong at this point/Does it change only 1°C for example

3.How well does watercooling and the CM Storm Enforcer fit together?

Thank you for your answers!

Martzel

[The Benjamins]

1. the volume of water in the loop helps keep the water at a lower temp, but is a non issue.

2. also a non issue

3. you case only has a 120mm and two 200mm rad spots. so you can only use 120mm close loop coolers or you need to do a custom loop with two 200mm rads (recommended for GPU and CPU config)

 

you case is not designed for it, so it will make adding a custom loop harder.

 

Did you want closed loop (kraken x40) or custom

[Martzel]

I want to go for a custom loop, because it looks smexy and it's custom.

But maybe i'll buy a H220-X and expand it later. Does someone have experiences with the H220-X.

[Captain_WD]

I'm thinking about watercooling my rig, but I'm new to watercooling and need some help, advice.

First of all my PC:

CPU: Intel i7 2700k @3,5GHz Turboboost:3,9-4,2GHz

RAM: GEiL 16GB DDR3 1600MHz

Mainboard: Asus Maximus IV Extreme

GPU: H.I.S AMD Radeon HD7970 @1,1GHz

SSD: 500GB Damsung 840 Evo

HDD: 1TB WesternDigital

PSU: 850W Corsair Full Modular

Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer

CPU-Cooler:need to look up

(If voltages or something else are needed tell me please)

I also have some questions:

1. Is more water in the water better?

2. The CPU/GPU heats up because of the resistence, when tempetature rises the resistence rises and therefore the temperature rises more and so on. If the temperature stays low the resistence is not that high and therefore less heat output. Or am I wrong at this point/Does it change only 1°C for example

3.How well does watercooling and the CM Storm Enforcer fit together?

Thank you for your answers!

Martzel

 

Hey Martzel,

 

You would need a aftermarket water CPU Cooler. 

More water should help distribute the heat better and essentially enable the cooler to be more effective (as @Suicidal Korean pointed out).

Do make sure you leave enough room for the rest of the parts to be cooled by the airflow of the case (tubes tend to take up space in the case where the normal airflow is supposed to go).

 

Captain_WD.

[Maxwit44]

@Martzel -

 

1. More water no difference or will impede the removal of heat. What you really need is more rad space. i.e a system with a single 240 x 120 x 30mm rad and 4 litres of water, will perform worse than, a system that has 3 of the same rad. I've found that rads over 50-60mm are not really any more use that a 30-35mm thick rad. Temps where within a degree of each other. I have personally test this.

 

2. the amount of resistance affects the amount of power/current drawn, which intern raises the temp as the current required increases. With overclocking, you are changing the power input, not the resistance. Think of it this way, Power input down a single strand of wire, when increasing the voltage and current, the single strand can not tack it, heats up because of resistance, then burns up. Now same voltage and current, but a thicker wire or multiple strands, will allow that increase in power and current to flow because there is more wire (less resistance) for it to flow. ( I re-read that a few times, it made sense to me, I hope it does to you).

 

3. The Enforcer case does have a 240 x 120 rad position at the top of the case, and it could possibly have the same in the front, but don't hold me to that.. So you may be able to fit 2 x 240 Rads in there, which should be fine to give you reasonable temps, pending how far or if you overclock.

[Martzel]

Ok thank you for all you answers!

Theres space for a 240x120mm Rad at the top, in the front there may be space for a slim 240x120mm and if not maybe a 120x120mm if the HDD cage is removed (which is the case). Maybe theres another place for a 120x120mm Rad in the back, where the exhaust fan sits.

Am I right by saying that watercooling is expensive, but once you bought some parts you can reuse them for future builds (except the GPU-Block) as long as the pump doesn't die or the CPU-Block doesn't fit for a socket anymore?

Do you recommend doing a small CPU only loop first and expand it later or doing a complete loop?

[rcarlos243]

Ok thank you for all you answers!

Theres space for a 240x120mm Rad at the top, in the front there may be space for a slim 240x120mm and if not maybe a 120x120mm if the HDD cage is removed (which is the case). Maybe theres another place for a 120x120mm Rad in the back, where the exhaust fan sits.

Am I right by saying that watercooling is expensive, but once you bought some parts you can reuse them for future builds (except the GPU-Block) as long as the pump doesn't die or the CPU-Block doesn't fit for a socket anymore?

Do you recommend doing a small CPU only loop first and expand it later or doing a complete loop?

 

240x120?

 

There are universal GPU waterblock that could be used on almost all graphics card. As an example the WaterCool HeatKiller GPU-X LT + Micro-sw can cool both the GPU core and the VRM but you have to cut the copper for the VRM to fit.

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2014/11/18/2014-universal-gpu-block-roundup/7/

note: for the HD 79x0, you would need a copper shim for the GPU core as it is concave otherwise the waterblock will NOT make contact with it. http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-vga-supreme-hf-hd7970-cu-adapter.html

 

As for pump as long as you get a Liang D5 w/ variable speed variant (Swiftech MCP 655, XSPC D5 Vario, Koolance PMP-450, Alphacool VPP655, etc...) you can run it literally forever (I have one that is running for 6 straight years without any issues).

 

As for the waterblock, you can purchase a mounting hardware in case there is a new socket that it doesn't support.

[Maxwit44]

Ok thank you for all you answers!

Theres space for a 240x120mm Rad at the top, in the front there may be space for a slim 240x120mm and if not maybe a 120x120mm if the HDD cage is removed (which is the case). Maybe theres another place for a 120x120mm Rad in the back, where the exhaust fan sits.

Am I right by saying that watercooling is expensive, but once you bought some parts you can reuse them for future builds (except the GPU-Block) as long as the pump doesn't die or the CPU-Block doesn't fit for a socket anymore?

Do you recommend doing a small CPU only loop first and expand it later or doing a complete loop?

 

Yes you can reuse all of your components, as long you have all the hardware for mounting across different cpu sockets.

 

GPU block are the bain of water cooling, cause they keep changing the layout of the PCB from card to card, and even in the same model.

 

240x120?

 

There are universal GPU waterblock that could be used on almost all graphics card. As an example the WaterCool HeatKiller GPU-X LT + Micro-sw can cool both the GPU core and the VRM but you have to cut the copper for the VRM to fit.

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2014/11/18/2014-universal-gpu-block-roundup/7/

note: for the HD 79x0, you would need a copper shim for the GPU core as it is concave otherwise the waterblock will NOT make contact with it. http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-vga-supreme-hf-hd7970-cu-adapter.html

 

As for pump as long as you get a Liang D5 w/ variable speed variant (Swiftech MCP 655, XSPC D5 Vario, Koolance PMP-450, Alphacool VPP655, etc...) you can run it literally forever (I have one that is running for 6 straight years without any issues).

 

As for the waterblock, you can purchase a mounting hardware in case there is a new socket that it doesn't support.

 

240x120 refers to a dual 120 rad. Or 240 rad. Its just base measurements.