Arctic Silver 5 Worse Than Previous Pre-applied?

[theninja35]

Hi. Recently, I have gotten a new Noctua fan for my Kraken x31, as well as some Arctic Silver 5. I applied it to my 4690k using the line method after a fricken ass load of fidgeting with the radiator, and I plugged the computer back in moments later. I turned it on, and watched the temperature. I noticed the idle was around 30C, usual, but while playing War Thunder it was nearly 20 degrees hotter. Usually I play around 50, but after applying the pate it was approximately 70.

 

Should this be happening? I cleaned the previous, pre-applied paste with 70% and some paper towels, then went back with a fiber wipe thingie and cleaned it off, removed dust, prints, etc. I still have a few g left I guess, it didn't seem like I used even half the 3.5g but I have no idea. Thanks for the help.

[Enderman]

did you put a small pea size of thermal paste in the middle of the CPU?

[theninja35]

did you put a small pea size of thermal paste in the middle of the CPU?

No, I put a line, the line method.

[TheMstwntdLMSV]

You could have applied too much or too little paste. If you did not apply it directly in the center it won't cover all the cores.

[wyattzx]

I don't mean to give you a "one size fits all" answer, but when I replaced my thermal paste recently, it took a day or two to "break in" the paste, and thus making a notable difference. I'd say give it a day or two, and then look at your temps. Maybe write down your min / max temps now, and then tomorrow, and see if it is outside the margin of error?

[TheMstwntdLMSV]

Also, be very careful because Arctic Silver has metal in it, and if it overflows onto the motherboard it can short it out. Enderman's method worked perfect for me when I built my rig.

[theninja35]

I don't mean to give you a "one size fits all" answer, but when I replaced my thermal paste recently, it took a day or two to "break in" the paste, and thus making a notable difference. I'd say give it a day or two, and then look at your temps. Maybe write down your min / max temps now, and then tomorrow, and see if it is outside the margin of error?

I saw that somewhere else, I'll try and see what happens.

[TheMstwntdLMSV]

Sorry for the "spam". I just want to provide the most amount of information that I can remember to you. Also, when you put on the block, you CANNOT move it when you are installing it. Put even pressure on it until it is installed all the way and don't lift it. Install the block with lightly tightened corners first, then the other two. Then tighten them finger tight all the way.

[theninja35]

Sorry for the "spam". I just want to provide the most amount of information that I can remember to you. Also, when you put on the block, you CANNOT move it when you are installing it. Put even pressure on it until it is installed all the way and don't lift it. Install the block with lightly tightened corners first, then the other two. Then tighten them finger tight all the way.

Oops. I might have to re-do it

[Enderman]

No, I put a line, the line method.

you probably put too much then

 

I don't mean to give you a "one size fits all" answer, but when I replaced my thermal paste recently, it took a day or two to "break in" the paste, and thus making a notable difference. I'd say give it a day or two, and then look at your temps. Maybe write down your min / max temps now, and then tomorrow, and see if it is outside the margin of error?

20C is far too much to be normal

[theninja35]

you probably put too much then

 

20C is far too much to be normal

How would too much affect it?

[TheMstwntdLMSV]

Hope I helped!

[Dabombinable]

Hi. Recently, I have gotten a new Noctua fan for my Kraken x31, as well as some Arctic Silver 5. I applied it to my 4690k using the line method after a fricken ass load of fidgeting with the radiator, and I plugged the computer back in moments later. I turned it on, and watched the temperature. I noticed the idle was around 30C, usual, but while playing War Thunder it was nearly 20 degrees hotter. Usually I play around 50, but after applying the pate it was approximately 70.

 

Should this be happening? I cleaned the previous, pre-applied paste with 70% and some paper towels, then went back with a fiber wipe thingie and cleaned it off, removed dust, prints, etc. I still have a few g left I guess, it didn't seem like I used even half the 3.5g but I have no idea. Thanks for the help.

Is the cooler mounted correctly? Because with the last of my arctic silver which has been transferred from heatsink to heatsink and then finally my water block  I have my i5 4440 capable of idling at ambient temperatures (20^oC ambient, and the lowest recorded temp was 20^oC, with average idle temps being between 23-25 degrees. This is using a 120mm thin rad without delidding BTW)

[theninja35]

Is the cooler mounted correctly? Because with the last of my arctic silver which has been transferred from heatsink to heatsink and then finally my water block  I have my i5 4440 capable of idling at ambient temperatures (20^oC ambient, and the lowest recorded temp was 20^oC, with average idle temps being between 23-25 degrees. This is using a 120mm thin rad without delidding BTW)

Yeah, I think so. It's mounted the way it was before I put it on. Except one side screw is a little bit loose, but the water block bit can't go further or lift up at all.

[MourningSouls]

Rice sized line, or edge to edge?

 

My guess is bad mount, bad Kraken, or it hasn't quite spread itself out yet.

[Dabombinable]

Yeah, I think so. It's mounted the way it was before I put it on. Except one side screw is a little bit loose, but the water block bit can't go further or lift up at all.

You need even pressure so make sure that the screws are tight. I had the waterblock on my Xeon at one point and it had high temps (and even overheated to the point of shutdown) until I tightened a screw that was loose.

Edit: I couldn't pull the cooler up either BTW

[brokencross]

Also, be very careful because Arctic Silver has metal in it, and if it overflows onto the motherboard it can short it out. Enderman's method worked perfect for me when I built my rig.

Not it can't. It's not conductive.

[runit3]

AS5 is not the best TIM to be using for a variety of reasons, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was worse than the pre-applied TIM that comes with the X31. Also, might be using too much which would account for the higher ΔC.

[Enderman]

How would too much affect it?

it can create a thick layer in between the CPU and cooler reducing the effectiveness

also it can spill over the sides which would make a mess

 

but when you put the cooler on the thermal paste you cant lift it again or youre guaranteed to get bubbles

[wyattzx]

Rice sized line, or edge to edge?

 

My guess is bad mount, bad Kraken, or it hasn't quite spread itself out yet.

Today alone, I replaced a total of six applications of thermal paste. I did a line in the center, vertically. Seemed to do the trick.

[TheMstwntdLMSV]

Not it can't. It's not conductive.

My bad.

[Moose347]

too much thermal paste.................