HELP! 4790k overheating ?!

[Hoda Ali]

Pc Specs: 

Mb:Gigabyte z87x-oc

Ram:8 gigs of corsair vengeance 2133Mhz

Cpu:4790k

Cooler:Noctua NH-D15 Dual Fan

PSU:Seasonic 750w M12II Bronze full Modular

case:CM 690 III

Gpu:Gtx 650 oc and i know i will upgrade not now

 

Sooooooo......

 

ATM iam running 4790 at 1.150v Vcore This is as low as i can go either way it crash after it boots into windows and Vrin at auto but sometimes and i mean sometimes i can run it on 1.650v never tried to make it stable and everything else on auto turbo boost and it max watt tried turning it off and do it manualy got to 4.2ghz stable at max at this volt 

Lastly i Idle at 32c-35c and when i run  occt i get at load i get 58c-67c but i doesn't load my cpu to the full 60%to77% max and it runs at 4.3ghz turbo boosted  then i ran AID64 i loaded my cpu to the max at 100%

load but still at 4.3Ghz i think this is cuz the turbo multi is set to auto which means 44  44   43  42 or somthing and the temps were 59c-67c never got past 70c only once now for the big boy Mr PRIME95

Small FFts  i get and omg from 80C-85C!!!!!!

Blend Test i get 59c-65c

In Large FFts is about the same with couple degrees above

and i verfied the voltage from cpuz ofcs hmmm idk i think i should get better temps 

lastly i live in egypt and it hot here man oh man but my pc sets in my room so no worries my room temp is about 24c-26c max cuz air conditioning running non stop so yeah anyways i have an exam wish me goodluck and sorry for my bad english

 

[Equilibrium_FOOL]

Revert the bios to stock, and enable adaptive voltage and turbo-boost.

 

Idle temps on the D15 should be better than that (my Hyper 212 is better).

[Hoda Ali]

oh and one last question ways to make a chart for fan control i want my case fans and cooler to stop spining can do it in bios on pwm ratio and gigabyte software sucks tried speed fan can't seem to get it to work and i have 1 stick of 8 gig ram crucial tactial somthin comin my way if i stick the same one later will it work in dual channal ?? with the 2 corsair sticks in dual channal already 

[Hoda Ali]

tried at stock are way worth can't even run prime95 get 90c-100c

[Speaker1264]

Prime95 is not a good test with haswell CPUs, try using intelburntest, also 85c is okay, just don't go any higher than that.  You may also want to look into some guides on overclocking, since it seems you are kind of inexperienced.

[Unlikelyjoker]

Running at 1.64v im surprised its not dead.

You never want to run Prime95 on Haswell chips stick to AIDA64 *EDIT* Intel burn test is also an option.

Try going into your BIOS and seeing how high of an OC you can get at 1.150v, 1.6 Is dangerously high.

[Br3tt96]

 

Running at 1.64v im surprised its not dead.

You never want to run Prime95 on Haswell chips stick to AIDA64 *EDIT* Intel burn test is also an option.

Try going into your BIOS and seeing how high of an OC you can get at 1.150v, 1.6 Is dangerously high.

 

I've gotten up to 1.53v trying to get a bootable 5.3GHz... Gave up after that point. I can boot 5.2 @ 1.36v, but I can't run benchmarks till I get to 1.42v or sometimes 1.43v

 

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[Hoda Ali]

 

Running at 1.64v im surprised its not dead.

You never want to run Prime95 on Haswell chips stick to AIDA64 *EDIT* Intel burn test is also an option.

Try going into your BIOS and seeing how high of an OC you can get at 1.150v, 1.6 Is dangerously high.

 

1.6 isn't vcore it's vrin i know i needs to be +0.5 than vcore right ?

[Lays]

 

Running at 1.64v im surprised its not dead.

You never want to run Prime95 on Haswell chips stick to AIDA64 *EDIT* Intel burn test is also an option.

Try going into your BIOS and seeing how high of an OC you can get at 1.150v, 1.6 Is dangerously high.

 

 

 

That's VCCIN.

 

That's the voltage the CPU gets before the FIVR inside the chip divides it up between the cache, memory controller, v core etc.

 

Intel burn test isn't really any better for testing, IMO Aida64 is one of the best right now, or Intel's XTU (extreme tuning utility)

XTU is the best IMO, because you can also change settings with it as well.

 

 

@Hoda Ali you should be running closer to 1.8v VCCIN, stock VCCIN is around 1.778-1.8v, lowering VCCIN is probably why you're having stability issues. 

 

Are you trying to overclock the chip, or run the lowest voltages possible without giving up stability & still having a good overclock?

 

With an NH-D15 you should easily be able to run 1.25vcore, 1.9 VCCIN with 4.4 to 4.6 ghz on the CPU.

[Hoda Ali]

so i run intelBurn test these are the temps same on all mode standerd high very high and maximum about 79c-81/82c

https://imgur.com/MPMmDIB

and ty everyone for the quick replies never though about askin but really you made happy

[Hoda Ali]

That's VCCIN.

 

That's the voltage the CPU gets before the FIVR inside the chip divides it up between the cache, memory controller, v core etc.

 

Intel burn test isn't really any better for testing, IMO Aida64 is one of the best right now, or Intel's XTU (extreme tuning utility)

XTU is the best IMO, because you can also change settings with it as well.

I run XTU about the same 58c-65c Never hit 70c

[Lays]

I run XTU about the same 58c-65c Never hit 70c

 

XTU is a much better stress testing program than prime95 for haswell, prime95 seems to run much hotter than other tests on this platform.

 

also check my post from before, I editted it.

[Hoda Ali]

That's VCCIN.

 

That's the voltage the CPU gets before the FIVR inside the chip divides it up between the cache, memory controller, v core etc.

 

Intel burn test isn't really any better for testing, IMO Aida64 is one of the best right now, or Intel's XTU (extreme tuning utility)

XTU is the best IMO, because you can also change settings with it as well.

 

 

@Hoda Ali you should be running closer to 1.8v VCCIN, stock VCCIN is around 1.778-1.8v, lowering VCCIN is probably why you're having stability issues. 

 

Are you trying to overclock the chip, or run the lowest voltages possible without giving up stability & still having a good overclock?

 

With an NH-D15 you should easily be able to run 1.25vcore, 1.9 VCCIN with 4.4 to 4.6 ghz on the CPU.

i know the stock is 1.8v indeed and stock vcore for my chip at least was 1.350v which is so much i don't want to overclock if i want it will be way different i saw that i had temp issues so i though lets see my chip real stock vcore which is 1.150v atm iam leaving VCCIN at auto in bios cuz playing with sometimes make the system unstable i can run the cpu at lower vcore it can idle but when i stress it ofcs it crashes lowest is 1.000v mid way was 1.105v but stable is 1.150v so any suggestions? 

i don't mind overclocking a bit i may run at 4.5ghz turning off turbo later if the temp issue is solved 

[Lays]

i know the stock is 1.8v indeed and stock vcore for my chip at least was 1.350v which is so much i don't want to overclock if i want it will be way different i saw that i had temp issues so i though lets see my chip real stock vcore which is 1.150v atm iam leaving VCCIN at auto in bios cuz playing with sometimes make the system unstable i can run the cpu at lower vcore it can idle but when i stress it ofcs it crashes lowest is 1.000v mid way was 1.105v but stable is 1.150v so any suggestions? 

i don't mind overclocking a bit i may run at 4.5ghz turning off turbo later if the temp issue is solved 

 

Your temp issue already seemed to be fine if you're only hitting 58-65c in XTU.

 

My recommendation, try 1.215 VCore, 1.85 VCCIN, 45x multiplier, see if it's stable with XTU's stress test.

 

Your temps should be in the mid to high 60's, maybe low 70's but that's alright.

[Hoda Ali]

Your temp issue already seemed to be fine if you're only hitting 58-65c in XTU.

 

My recommendation, try 1.215 VCore, 1.85 VCCIN, 45x multiplier, see if it's stable with XTU's stress test.

 

Your temps should be in the mid to high 60's, maybe low 70's but that's alright.

 @Lays i will try this but one last thing i can disable turbo boost in bios and apply all the setting but will it change when i open xtu. cuz i can't seem to find turbo boost disable option in xtu 

[Lays]

@Lays i will try this but one last thing i can disable turbo boost in bios and apply all the setting but will it change when i open xtu. cuz i can't seem to find turbo boost disable option in xtu

You could, you don't really need to turn it off though, changing your multiplier kind of overrides it.

[Speaker1264]

Those temps are a tad high for the voltage and clock speed, but not insanely high or anything.  I wonder if you don't have air bubbles in your thermal compound, or if your cooler isn't making enough contact pressure with the cpu.

[Hoda Ali]

sooo i run it at 1.215Vcore and 1.850 VCCIN and 45 multiplier and here the result of just 1 min stress test 70c avarage somtimes spikes to 75c for a sec but stable most of the time at 69c-70c to setting i don't know what to do with them the vcore adaptive and static and cache voltage offset some people say but it at 0   oh and there some i think called voltage somthing protection it mean that it will make the vcore more stable and not jump around @Lays

https://imgur.com/CZXNLfG

[Hoda Ali]

Those temps are a tad high for the voltage and clock speed, but not insanely high or anything.  I wonder if you don't have air bubbles in your thermal compound, or if your cooler isn't making enough contact pressure with the cpu.

idk maybe a link for linus paste applicaton method would be great i know i saw one at ncix last year but i know i apply it right i don't know. an image would be great ty

[Hoda Ali]

i could try bringin the vcore down a bit from 1.215 later if it's stable atm have made sure cuz the setting mentioned above ty

[Lays]

sooo i run it at 1.215Vcore and 1.850 VCCIN and 45 multiplier and here the result of just 1 min stress test 70c avarage somtimes spikes to 75c for a sec but stable most of the time at 69c-70c to setting i don't know what to do with them the vcore adaptive and static and cache voltage offset some people say but it at 0   oh and there some i think called voltage somthing protection it mean that it will make the vcore more stable and not jump around @Lays

https://imgur.com/CZXNLfG

I highly recommend you use static. Adaptive is not good for stress testing, because sometimes it will pull more voltage then you tell it to, and can overheat things.

[Hoda Ali]

I highly recommend you use static. Adaptive is not good for stress testing, because sometimes it will pull more voltage then you tell it to, and can overheat things.

and the cache voltage offset set to 0 or leave at 299.8046875mv ? @Lays

[Lays]

and the cache voltage offset set to 0 or leave at 299.8046875mv ? @Lays

It's OK you can leave that alone.

That's for your cpu's cache.

You can overclock that too, but it doesn't help as much as your core frequency.

[Hoda Ali]

It's OK you can leave that alone.

That's for your cpu's cache.

You can overclock that too, but it doesn't help as much as your core frequency.

so 35-38c idle and 70c max at load is good or i could get more by try  lowering the vcore a bit and see if it will be stable ?

and any advice about fan controlling software or should i get fan controller and any case 120mm fans suggestions @Lays

and ty i know i ask alot sorry i bother you

[Lays]

so 35-38c idle and 70c max at load is good or i could get more by try lowering the vcore a bit and see if it will be stable ?

and any advice about fan controlling software or should i get fan controller and any case 120mm fans suggestions

Yeah you can try and lower the v core to see how low you can run it without it crashing.

I like fan controllers a lot more than software just because it's easier to adjust speeds, only downfall is you can't have a fan curve.

It's mostly personal preference though. For fans, check out the cougar cf-v12hp, I think they make a black version instead of the orange. They perform amazing.