R9 390X will only have 4gb of Vram?

[Nena Trinity]

I guess it will have 6gb or 8gb but no one knows yet. =S

[typographie]

It just meant that I was only using the "high" texture resolution instead of ultra (which claims to require 6GB just for 1080p). The game still looks incredible. When a game looks as good as Shadow of Mordor I have no problem with it needing a Titan or two to max out. If someone is spending multiple thousands of pounds/dollars on GPUs alone, then they should get something for it imo. I find it quite disturbing that in too many cases there isn't anything that £2000 worth of graphics cards can do that my £500's worth can't.

 

Oh I misunderstood, I thought you meant you were playing it at Ultra rather than High.

 

If you set textures to Ultra, how bad is the framerate hit? Shadow of Mordor seems to a lot more VRAM than is actually crucial for it's performance, because based on my own experiences it sure doesn't need 6 GB at 1080p. That makes me wonder how it behaves at 4K.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

So 3.5 isnt enough but 4 is more than enough?

 

Not sure about the 4 but they were probably nit picking on the 3.5. Saying that 4GB is not enough would be silly :lol:  

[othertomperson]

Oh I misunderstood, I thought you meant you were playing it at Ultra rather than High.

 

If you set textures to Ultra, how bad is the framerate hit? Shadow of Mordor seems to a lot more VRAM than is actually crucial for it's performance, because based on my own experiences it sure doesn't need 6 GB at 1080p. That makes me wonder how it behaves at 4K.

 

I always play at Custom because I can't stand things like depth of field, motion blur and film grain

 

Did you have the texture pack installed? Because without it "Ultra" and "Very High" are literally the same. Maybe this is why you aren't seeing 6GB usage?

 

The framerate hit is extreme, but that's because it's sitting at 4096MB and dumping to system memory. This is the only game I have ever played that actually needs more than 4GB vram. Given the premium cards like Titans and 8GB 290Xs come with, for one single game I'm ok with turning down the texture resolution.

[typographie]

Did you have the texture pack installed? Because without it "Ultra" and "Very High" are literally the same. Maybe this is why you aren't seeing 6GB usage?

 

Yes, I have the texture pack installed. Ultra causes the VRAM usage to hit 4 GB flat and stay there, but there is no noticeable performance loss. What seems to negatively affect my framerate (when anything does) is Vegetation Range when I'm in the second area, and it doesn't seem to be related to VRAM.

[othertomperson]

Yes, I have the texture pack installed. Ultra causes the VRAM usage to hit 4 GB flat and stay there, but there is no noticeable performance loss. What seems to negatively affect my framerate (when anything does) is Vegetation Range when I'm in the second area, and it doesn't seem to be related to VRAM.

 

Hmm that's quite interesting. I'll have a mess around with that the next time I play.

[CoolaxGaming]

If your flagship graphics card costs around $700 and only has 4gb vram, it's questionable. 

GTX 980 at launch?

[Trolling]

GTX 980 at launch?

 

GTX 980 was going to compete with 290x. 

 

R9 390X is going to compete with 980ti and Titan X

[AliveGhost13]

To be honest, I doubt it but it may well be true. With the 8GB 290Xs that were for sale though, I doubt they'd go lower than 6 or 8 gigs

[CoolaxGaming]

GTX 980 was going to compete with 290x. 

 

R9 390X is going to compete with 980ti and Titan X

First of all, those two gpus will use gddr5.

Second of all, the 980ti may have 4gb, we have no official word on the card

Third of all, we dont even know if Fiji XT will be called 390x

[Trolling]

First of all, those two gpus will use gddr5.

Second of all, the 980ti may have 4gb, we have no official word on the card

Third of all, we dont even know if Fiji XT will be called 390x

 

Yes I know. This whole thread is based on a promising rumoured article. 

 

But here are the facts. 

AMD have confirmed that 4gb limits on first HBM Cards. Which are 390 and 390x. 

 

You can argue with me all you want but I'm just re-stating AMD's comments. 

[Zulkkis]

Well, you get 4GB Max for each stack of HBM. The Halo product could probably get a higher pool through some witchery, but it'd obviously be more expensive.

 

The more I read about this, it seems that AMD is missing the timing, sort of. HBM is prohibitively expensive, nVidia has been selling cards with rather low manufacturing costs for 9 months already, and the card with characteristics of a more expensive cards commands a very, very high premium. nVidia will get to use the 2nd gen HBM, where the advantages of the new memory solution are far more obvious, and at that point the bottleneck presented by GDDR5 would probably be pretty damn obvious.

 

Then again, AMD will have a head-start with HBM and when the processing node changes, all they have to do is to fit their new architecture on it. Last time nVidia had a change of this magnitude - moving to GDDR5, changing processing node and architecture - they ended up releasing the GTX 480, and that didn't end up so well. Right now, however, they're raking it in.

 

It's not that R9 series is that bad atm, but I feel that everything that's sounding promising by AMD right now is just missing the timings. We'll have to wait until Arctic Islands to see if AMD's vision actually materializes, and whether if nVidia overtakes everything with Pascal.

[DaRk0]

Thought that it was patented by Nvidia . 

 

Nope. Nvidia will gladly share this feature with AMD.

 

 

 

 

 

... before Apple patents it.