copying data through LAN?

[19_blackie_73]

Is it possible to send data between two pcs over a normal lan cable? Is it possible without any special software?

[SkywardKkalox]

It needs to be a crossover cable, meaning on one end it's gonna have a Team A jack and on the other end a Team B jack.

[C0LL0SS0S]

I know for sure that mouse without borders makes it pretty easy due to drag and drop, without software I don't know

[Sheldon_King]

Is it possible to send data between two pcs over a normal lan cable? Is it possible without any special software?

Not directly through a cable that you probably already own. It is possible through one of 2 ways:

 

1. PC1 -> cable -> switch/router -> cable -> PC2

2. PC1 -> crossover cable -> PC2

 

If you do not have a crossover cable, you need to put a router or switch between the two PCs as the DATA and Recieve lines of teh RJ45 have to be switched (reversed) to allow both units to speak properly. Wither either setup, you can directly access data on either PC using networked drives in Windows or Linux (unsure of OSx).

[Mbarton]

well if your talking about plugging a lan/ethernet cord in to both pc`s rj45/ethernet ports then yes but that's allot of hassle when you could just use a router or a gigabit switch to do it .

 

And from there you can create shared folders and on the other pc enter the data pc ip and access the data like that you don't even need a internet connection .

 

I can go more in depth on how to do this if you need me to.

[Mbarton]

Not directly through a cable that you probably already own. It is possible through one of 2 ways:

 

1. PC1 -> cable -> switch/router -> cable -> PC2

2. PC1 -> crossover cable -> PC2

 

If you do not have a crossover cable, you need to put a router or switch between the two PCs as the DATA and Recieve lines of teh RJ45 have to be switched (reversed) to allow both units to speak properly. Wither either setup, you can directly access data on either PC using networked drives in Windows or Linux (unsure of OSx).

OSX has something but its proprietary and wont talk to windows. not that i think thats going to be a problem here. linux can talk to it but its just better to have it run samba so its compatible with windows and linux  easily 

[Sheldon_King]

OSX has something but its proprietary and wont talk to windows. not that i think thats going to be a problem here. linux can talk to it but its just better to have it run samba so its compatible with windows and linux  easily 

Well, you can easily just mount a hard drive over the network in both Linux and Windows, so that would be what I would do (assuming he has hardware to make it happen).  OSx, I find to be a pain in the arse for things like this (networking in general), but that is for a different thread/forum.

[LasersPewPew]

 

 

Not directly through a cable that you probably already own. It is possible through one of 2 ways:

 

1. PC1 -> cable -> switch/router -> cable -> PC2

2. PC1 -> crossover cable -> PC2

 

If you do not have a crossover cable, you need to put a router or switch between the two PCs as the DATA and Recieve lines of teh RJ45 have to be switched (reversed) to allow both units to speak properly. Wither either setup, you can directly access data on either PC using networked drives in Windows or Linux (unsure of OSx).

 

Needs to be behind a router.. A switch can't provide IP address required for inter-network communication between devices. The switch would still be required to be hooked up to a router. Unless you use 2 Crossover cables, in that case you might as well direct connect the 2 computers with 1 crossover cable.  OSX is a heavily modified version of UNIX, the concept works with OSX

 

OSX has something but its proprietary and wont talk to windows. not that i think thats going to be a problem here. linux can talk to it but its just better to have it run samba so its compatible with windows and linux  easily 

 

OSX supports SAMBA which is what Windows and Linux uses. No conflicts there.

 

Well, you can easily just mount a hard drive over the network in both Linux and Windows, so that would be what I would do (assuming he has hardware to make it happen).  OSx, I find to be a pain in the arse for things like this (networking in general), but that is for a different thread/forum.

 

It's not hard to mount the drive on OSX, I believe it's under Go > Connect to server > SMB://servername.  Enter username and credentials and you're GTG

 

 

The answer to the OP's question has already been answered, you can do that with a Crossover cable or if it's within a network you can connect via IP Address and access the shared files from there.

 

[Sheldon_King]

 

 

 

 

Needs to be behind a router.. A switch can't provide IP address required for inter-network communication between devices. The switch would still be required to be hooked up to a router. Unless you use 2 Crossover cables, in that case you might as well direct connect the 2 computers with 1 crossover cable.  OSX is a heavily modified version of UNIX, the concept works with OSX

It can be accomplished with a switch, but one of the computers has to be set up as the router, which with Linux it is not that difficult to pull off. The switch then becomes just a switch again, connecting teh cables together like a bridge.

 

(I know this works, as it is how I have my systems set up. Just using teh desktop as a router and the switch to connect normal patch cables to the systems needing data).

[Mbarton]

 

OSX supports SAMBA which is what Windows and Linux uses. No conflicts there.

 

 

yea i said that  :huh:

[Mbarton]

It can be accomplished with a switch, but one of the computers has to be set up as the router, which with Linux it is not that difficult to pull off. The switch then becomes just a switch again, connecting teh cables together like a bridge.

 

(I know this works, as it is how I have my systems set up. Just using teh desktop as a router and the switch to connect normal patch cables to the systems needing data).

And i second this because this is also how i have my network setup. all you need is one of the pc to act as a DHCP server to give out internal ips

[LasersPewPew]

It can be accomplished with a switch, but one of the computers has to be set up as the router, which with Linux it is not that difficult to pull off. The switch then becomes just a switch again, connecting teh cables together like a bridge.

 

(I know this works, as it is how I have my systems set up. Just using teh desktop as a router and the switch to connect normal patch cables to the systems needing data).

 

But if you're setting up the computer to act as a router, wouldn't the NIC present in the system act as the switch port thus eliminating the need for an external switch?

 

yea i said that  :huh:

Sorry, I thought you weren't sure since you said "i don't think that's going to be a problem.)

[Sheldon_King]

But if you're setting up the computer to act as a router, wouldn't the NIC present in the system act as the switch port thus eliminating the need for an external switch?

 

Sorry, I thought you weren't sure since you said "i don't think that's going to be a problem.)

No, it would not, unless you have a crossover cable, thus elemenating the need to set up a DHCP router on the computer. The switch converts the signal coming in, basically taking the send signal from one cable and sending it to the recieve line on teh second (can do so with more than one connection too). You need a switch with a DHCP router, or 2 computers with a crossover cable.

[Mbarton]

But if you're setting up the computer to act as a router, wouldn't the NIC present in the system act as the switch port thus eliminating the need for an external switch?

 

Sorry, I thought you weren't sure since you said "i don't think that's going to be a problem.)

Oh no i ment i don't thing its going to be a problem because i think hes using 2 windows pc`s

[0x550x42]

YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LAN CABLE !! Follow the steps below

 

Do steps 1~5 on both systems BEFORE connecting them via the LAN cable

 

Disconnect any internet connections on both systems. (You may use airplane mode on both of them)

 

1. Go to "Control Panel >> Network and Internet >> Network Connections"

2. Now right click on "Ethernet" and go to "properties"

3. Under "Networking" tab, look for "Internet Protocol v4" and double click on that to go to properties.

4. Click on "Use the following IP address" and now you have to allocate 2 different IP addresses. On first system use "192.168.1.2" and on second use "192.168.1.3". For the sub-net address just click on the blank field and it will be automatically filled up. Leave the default gateway field blank.

5. Save the settings and connect the systems via the LAN cable.

6. Go to start and type "network" and open it.

7. In the network window, click on the address bar and type "\\192.168.1.2" or "\\192.168.1.3" (this is the addresss of the other system than the one you are working right now)

8. Now you will be asked to provide the username and password for the system. Go ahead and fill in the details and press enter.

 

You will now be able to access the other system. Enjoy !!

[19_blackie_73]

YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LAN CABLE !! Follow the steps below

 

Do steps 1~5 on both systems BEFORE connecting them via the LAN cable

 

1. Go to "Control Panel >> Network and Internet >> Network Connections"

2. Now right click on "Ethernet" and go to "properties"

3. Under "Networking" tab, look for "Internet Protocol v4" and double click on that to go to properties.

4. Click on "Use the following IP address" and now you have to allocate 2 different IP addresses. On first system use "192.168.1.2" and on second use "192.168.1.3"

5. Save the settings and connect the systems via the LAN cable.

6. Go to start and type "network" and open it.

7. In the network window, click on the address bar and type "\\192.168.1.2" or "\\192.168.1.3" (this is the addresss of the other system than the one you are working right now)

8. Now you will be asked to provide the username and password for the system. Go ahead and fill in the details and press enter.

 

You will now be able to access the other system. Enjoy !!

THIS is a solution I was looking for, thanks a lot, I'll try it within the next days

[0x550x42]

THIS is a solution I was looking for, thanks a lot, I'll try it within the next days

 

Best of luck! And remember to change those IPv4 setting back to the default after you are done. Because later on if you would like to access internet on any of those systems, then you will be needing the defaults (automatic IP allocation). And yes, remember to mark the post as "Answer" if it helps.

[Mbarton]

THIS is a solution I was looking for, thanks a lot, I'll try it within the next days

Nice layed out explanation.