What cpu should i get

[xBonedogx]

Hey guys, im planning to get a new CPU but im a completly noob. Mainly need it for gaming. What can you recommend? ( currently i have a i5-3330 quad core 3ghz and a gtx 970msi )

[Tagiau]

Unless you really need an upgrade (motherboard died cpu died etc) that cpu is still good.

[Redsun20]

Hey guys, im planning to get a new CPU but im a completly noob. Mainly need it for gaming. What can you recommend? ( currently i have a i5-3330 quad core 3ghz and a gtx 970msi )

I would recommend getting an Asus Z97-A and a core i7 4790k. However, that CPU is still good

[Sir Asvald]

Hey guys, im planning to get a new CPU but im a completly noob. Mainly need it for gaming. What can you recommend? ( currently i have a i5-3330 quad core 3ghz and a gtx 970msi )

What games do you play? 

 

The CPU you have is fine. Unless you've got problems with it

[incarnate]

i would recommend keeping your cpu and motherboard, there'd be no performance increase in gaming

[xBonedogx]

Oh really? Some friend of me telled me it will slow the fps for games like GTA..

[Tagiau]

Oh really? Some friend of me telled me it will slow the fps for games like GTA..

There will be no performance gain going from ivy bridge to haswell.

[Sir Asvald]

Oh really? Some friend of me telled me it will slow the fps for games like GTA..

Don't listen to your friend. He doesn't know that he's talking about.  

 

Also please quote us, so we know you've replied.

[incarnate]

Oh really? Some friend of me telled me it will slow the fps for games like GTA..

 

nah. there is nothing that an ivy bridge cpu i5 can't handle now. had you gotten a 3570k you could overclock later on to extend the usable life of the cpu but your cpu will be able to handle any game with any single graphics card for a good while yet

 

edit: forgot about the ivy bridge pentiums and far cry 4 requiring quads

[itachipirate]

Oh really? Some friend of me telled me it will slow the fps for games like GTA..

That CPU apparently performs a little better overall than an FX-6300, so you should see small bottlenecking in GTA V with a 970 since the FX-6300 gives a somewhat large deal of bottlenecking with a 970. I have an FX-6300 and GTX 970 and I have to turn down some CPU-intensive settings (draw distance, population density) to get above 60fps all the time. Most of the i5 3330 GTA V benchmarks are pairing it with low end graphics cards like the R9 270 and 750ti and aren't very helpful. The 3330 also has much better single-core which should somewhat minimize bottlenecking, but GTA V will utilize all CPU threads

 

But no you don't need to upgrade, you can still play GTA V on nearly ultra with perfect FPS. Might as well wait for Skylake and Zen to upgrade since your CPU will be more than fine until then

Basing off of this: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/356/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-3330.html

and my ownership of the 6300 and 970

The green one is the FX-6300 and the purple one is the i5-3330. Sorry someone said the link was broken so I used good ol' snipping tool

[incarnate]

That CPU apparently performs a little better overall than an FX-6300, so you should see small bottlenecking in GTA V with a 970 since the FX-6300 gives a somewhat large deal of bottlenecking with a 970. I have an FX-6300 and GTX 970 and I have to turn down some CPU-intensive settings (draw distance, population density) to get above 60fps all the time. Most of the i5 3330 GTA V benchmarks are pairing it with low end graphics cards like the R9 270 and 750ti and aren't very helpful

 

But no you don't need to upgrade, you can still play GTA V on nearly ultra with perfect FPS. Might as well wait for Skylake and Zen to upgrade since your CPU will be more than fine until then

Basing off of this: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/356/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-3330.html

and my ownership of the 6300 and 970

 

ummm that link is broken and i have a very hard time believing that any ivy i5 is only a little better than a 6300

 

i stand corrected and i'd hardly call this bottlenecking

 

[itachipirate]

ummm that link is broken and i have a very hard time believing that any ivy i5 is only a little better than a 6300

The single core performance is much better for the 3330 which is the most important thing most of the time. I have no idea why the link is broken it works for me

[incarnate]

The single core performance is much better which is the most important thing most of the time. I have no idea why the link is broken it works for me

 

this is weird as hell.... first time i tried it told me the page didn't exist. either way, it looks like you are right that the performance is similar (a well optimized game for cpus). i haven't looked at the options of gta v in a while but anything under the advanced options menu tends to kill just about any system's framerates. 

[Faceman]

@incarnate

 

That benchmark is at 2560 x 1600 which is a much higher resolution than 1080p.  As resolution increases, it becomes more GPU bound and CPU plays less of a part.  At 1080p, the bottleneck is real.

[itachipirate]

@incarnate

 

That benchmark is at 2560 x 1600 which is a much higher resolution than 1080p.  As resolution increases, it becomes more GPU bound and CPU plays less of a part.  At 1080p, the bottleneck is real.

Yes this is true, I don't get 60fps perfect when driving fast with full distance scaling and population density at 1080p and sometimes see as low as 65% GPU usage so I'd guess the 3330 would be a little better, but still a bottleneck for a 970. I would think that using a Titan X with normal textures would make the 1600p resolution irrelevant though? I thought the Titan X was the all new single GPU 4k solution. I don't quite understand how turning up the resolution would allow you to increase FPS if you have a low-end CPU. I understand that it would reduce bottlenecks if the GPU can only pull 40fps at the higher resolution

[incarnate]

@incarnate

 

That benchmark is at 2560 x 1600 which is a much higher resolution than 1080p.  As resolution increases, it becomes more GPU bound and CPU plays less of a part.  At 1080p, the bottleneck is real.

 

while this is true that going to higher resolutions would reduce bottlenecks, that's simply due to the draw calls the cpu has to make in relation to the time the gpu takes to render the frame. the same card would bottleneck at 1080p but that chart does show that the cpus are capable of 60 fps averages. regardless of resolution they should be capable of those framerates at minimum since the amount of draw calls should be the same. at least this is by my understanding at least, i could be wrong on this. i haven't studied how the dx api handles all this lol

[Faceman]

Yes this is true, I don't get 60fps perfect when driving fast with full distance scaling and population density at 1080p and sometimes see as low as 65% GPU usage. I would think that using a Titan X with normal textures would make the 1600p resolution irrelevant though? I thought the Titan X was the all new single GPU 4k solution

It still makes the CPU less of a factor because so many more pixels need to be displayed.  If they increased textures to high or very high, fps would also decrease, and the disparity between CPUs would decrease.

 

1920 x 1080 22in Display size: 19.17" × 10.79" = 206.81in² (48.7cm × 27.4cm = 1334.28cm²) at 100.13 PPI, 0.2537mm dot pitch, 10026 PPI²

2560 x 1600 22in Display size: 19.17" × 10.79" = 206.81in² (48.7cm × 27.4cm = 1334.28cm²) at 133.51 PPI, 0.1902mm dot pitch, 17825 PPI²

 

https://www.sven.de/dpi/

[IateMApoo]

Your CPU should do fine with 970...for now.