Deciding between two builds

[sailtacks]

So I'm helping my friend with a build and I thought of 2 options for him (his budget is 800$ for the system) :

Any feed back, other parts recommended or other build options would be a great help

AMD: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.75 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($90.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.74 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $783.21

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Intel build: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.95 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.75 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.74 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.75 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $778.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-02 00:51 EDT-0400

[Enderman]

get a G3258 instead

it will perform way better

[Lolzious]

get a G3258 instead

it will perform way better

Nope. The 4350 ever-so-slightly out performs the Pentium (at stock speeds)

Although, for price to performance, and overclocking ability, the G3258 is a bit better.

 

Also, here is a build which is a bit better for the money.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BsNHK8

*note the 212 Evo... Make sure you OC that Pentium to get good performance

[Equilibrium_FOOL]

What are your friends uses?

[sailtacks]

get a G3258 instead

it will perform way better

So like this? :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Mwave)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.74 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.75 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $799.20

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-02 00:55 EDT-0400

[sailtacks]

get a G3258 instead

it will perform way better

So like this? :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Mwave)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.74 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.75 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $799.20

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-02 00:55 EDT-0400

[Imabigmac]

I would go for the i3. 

 

Mind the AMD rig has a better mobo.... But I think an i3 out does an 4350 currently. DX12 could be very interesting though. 

[Octavialicious]

I'd stick with the i3

[sailtacks]

What are your friends uses?

Gaming

[sailtacks]

I would go for the i3.

I'd stick with the i3

Ok since that seems to be general consensus I will, I also liked the idea of getting the. Noctua cooler with it, thanks for the advice though

[Equilibrium_FOOL]

Ok since that seems to be general consensus I will, I also liked the idea of getting the. Noctua cooler with it, thanks for the advice though

Go for the i3.  Buying AMD cpus atm kinda seems wrong, unless you need many cores.

[sailtacks]

Nope. The 4350 ever-so-slightly out performs the Pentium (at stock speeds)

Although, for price to performance, and overclocking ability, the G3258 is a bit better.

 

Also, here is a build which is a bit better for the money.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BsNHK8

*note the 212 Evo... Make sure you OC that Pentium to get good performance

I'll keep the OC in mind, but as far as your build, the ram I understand, but why more power?

[Lolzious]

I'll keep the OC in mind, but as far as your build, the ram I understand, but why more power?

500w is the minimum for a 280x. I have the exact same card and couldn't overclock from the measly 850mhz on a 520 watt PSU.

Also, XFX get's their power supplies from "Super Flower" which makes a DAMN good power supply

[sailtacks]

500w is the minimum for a 280x. I have the exact same card and couldn't overclock from the measly 850mhz on a 520 watt PSU.

Also, XFX get's their power supplies from "Super Flower" which makes a DAMN good power supply

Ok thanks

I also changed the mobos on the Intel systems to this:

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)

(Sli and crossfire for future upgrades)

[Lolzious]

Ok thanks

I also changed the mobos on the Intel systems to this:

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)

(Sli and crossfire for future upgrades)

Very nice.

[Enderman]

So like this? :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Mwave)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.74 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.75 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $799.20

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-02 00:55 EDT-0400

yeah but if you can fit an i3 into the budget that would be even better

i just said G3258 because its about the same price as the AMD CPU and you didnt have the second build up yet when I replied

but the i3 is even better

[Enderman]

Nope. The 4350 ever-so-slightly out performs the Pentium (at stock speeds)

Although, for price to performance, and overclocking ability, the G3258 is a bit better.

 

Also, here is a build which is a bit better for the money.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BsNHK8

*note the 212 Evo... Make sure you OC that Pentium to get good performance

a G3258 has better single core performance than all AMD CPUs

its a fact that intel have better single core performance than AMD as you can see from all single threaded benchmarks ever

[sailtacks]

yeah but if you can fit an i3 into the budget that would be even better

i just said G3258 because its about the same price as the AMD CPU and you didnt have the second build up yet when I replied

but the i3 is even better

Ok got it, I'm going to show my friends he 3-4 builds we made and explain them to him tomorrow, thanks for the help

[sailtacks]

Very nice.

  

Go for the i3.  Buying AMD cpus atm kinda seems wrong, unless you need many cores.

  

I'd stick with the i3

  

I would go for the i3. 

 

Mind the AMD rig has a better mobo.... But I think an i3 out does an 4350 currently. DX12 could be very interesting though.

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Whelp I'm tired so thanks again and g'night.

[TJarsun]

Try this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4kQ2nQ
No windows included

[Lolzious]

a G3258 has better single core performance than all AMD CPUs

its a fact that intel have better single core performance than AMD as you can see from all single threaded benchmarks ever

That  doesn't change the fact that games are starting utilize more cores. So when almost all new games don't run on your little dual core, then you'll be talking

[sailtacks]

Try this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4kQ2nQ

No windows included

Saw it right before I went, but I think the better mobo on the others as well as staying in budget makes it worth it, I'll keep it in mind though

[sailtacks]

That  doesn't change the fact that games are starting utilize more cores. So when almost all new games don't run on your little dual core, then you'll be talking

That's why I included an AMD system, and apparently I'm not that tired yet. *internet grabs my eyelids and forces them open*

[Wingfan]

the i3 build wont need an aftermarket cooler, you could use money else where

[Enderman]

That  doesn't change the fact that games are starting utilize more cores. So when almost all new games don't run on your little dual core, then you'll be talking

true

but thats why hes getting an i3 instead

 

also it is possible to mod some games so that they work on dual core CPUs even though they are hardware restricted to 4 cores minimum