delidded 4790k. Normal temps?

[nmxdaven]

Hey guys,

 

So after trying to delid my horrid 4790k I ended up nicking one of the corners and killing it. :angry:

 

Oh well. Let me pick up a processor from silicon lottery. Went with a 4.8 and this time opted for the deliding service for an extra 50 bucks. The owner is an awesome guy. Killed my 4790, then that night ordered another one. The next morning I noticed he ships from the same town as me. Turns out he lives 10 mins away. Let me save on shipping and personally delivered my proc to my house.

 

Long story short I want to see if my temps on this one fall in line with other delidded 4790's.

 

Current settings are 4.7 @ 1.28. Temps maxing at 85, but usually hovering in the 80's using OCCT small data set. 72 F ambient.

 

Cooling is from a noctua d-14 with plenty of airflow.

 

 

Sound about right?

[TheSLSAMG]

An NH-D14?

 

Sounds a little high, considering I'm doing similar temps at about the same voltage albeit different clocks (4.6GHz, 1.295V) on a Dark Rock 3, but I wouldn't worry too much anyways.

[theelitegamer]

I don't know what delidding means, but I know 70 on a Noctua is like rare when it's idle 

[WoodenMarker]

An NH-D14?

Sounds a little high, considering I'm doing similar temps at about the same voltage albeit different clocks (4.6GHz, 1.295V) on a Dark Rock 3, but I wouldn't worry too much anyways.

It does seem pretty high. I'm guessing the issue is no liquid metal or similar material on the die.

I don't know what delidding means, but I know 70 on a Noctua is like rare when it's idle

Pretty sure the OP is referring to load temps and not idle.

[TheSLSAMG]

It does seem pretty high. I'm guessing the issue is no liquid metal or similar material on the die.

That begs the question, do you think Coolaboratory Liquid Pro is worth it over NT-H1 for my CPU's die?

 

I forgot to mention that I'm not delidded on the i7, but my Pentium is.

[nmxdaven]

It does seem pretty high. I'm guessing the issue is no liquid metal or similar material on the die.

Pretty sure the OP is referring to load temps and not idle.

 

It supposedly has Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. From looking around a bit I'm seeing people say high 60's. Something doesnt seem quite right.

[FruitBasketSilex]

It supposedly has Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. From looking around a bit I'm seeing people say high 60's. Something doesnt seem quite right.

Probably a bad mount.

[i_build_nanosuits]

So after trying to delid my horrid 4790k I ended up nicking one of the corners and killing it. :angry:

OMG that's terrible you don't even need to delid the 4790K it comes with top of the line TIM already from the factory...what a bummer

[nmxdaven]

Probably a bad mount.

 

Tried reseating 3 times already.

[FruitBasketSilex]

Tried reseating 3 times already.

Try again.

[WoodenMarker]

That begs the question, do you think Coolaboratory Liquid Pro is worth it over NT-H1 for my CPU's die?

I forgot to mention that I'm not delidded on the i7, but my Pentium is.

NT-H1 has pump-out issues. As long as you can cover the row of capacitors with something like epoxy, using CLP wouldn't be a bad idea.

OMG that's terrible you don't even need to delid the 4790K it comes with top of the line TIM already from the factory...what a bummer

I haven't actually seen any evidence of better TIM used. The TIM Intel used before was top-notch before anyway. Delidding solves the issue of a gap between the ihs and die and not so much replacing a crappy thermal material.

It supposedly has Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. From looking around a bit I'm seeing people say high 60's. Something doesnt seem quite right.

Is there any info on whether or not the ihs is glued back on and if and how it was done?

Are you mounting the NH-D14 tightly enough?

[MatadorZA]

OMG that's terrible you don't even need to delid the 4790K it comes with top of the line TIM already from the factory...what a bummer

 

Top of the line ? I see lots of people getting up to 25 degrees C drop in temps with the 4790k---> http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide

 

edit: lol actually it looks like the only guy getting a 25C drop isnt even using the IHS haha cooler directly onto the naked die!

[sp0rad1c]

OMG that's terrible you don't even need to delid the 4790K it comes with top of the line TIM already from the factory...what a bummer

 You'd be surprised. Even at a stable 1.2v, the 4790k likes to vary wildly, mostly because the TIM is far less superior than a known aftermarket TIM like Arctic Silver or the Noctua compound. I'd know, i've tried.

[WoodenMarker]

You'd be surprised. Even at a stable 1.2v, the 4790k likes to vary wildly, mostly because the TIM is far less superior than a known aftermarket TIM like Arctic Silver or the Noctua compound. I'd know, i've tried.

The TIM used by Intel is much better than Artic Silver or NH-T1.The temps are an issue due to the gap created by the glue around the die and not crappy TIM.

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

uhmmm the 4790k was upgraded to not need delidding. you can actually make your temps worse

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

The TIM used by Intel is much better than Artic Silver or NH-T1.The temps are an issue due to the gap created by the glue around the die and not crappy TIM.

 this is true but wasnt the new gen intels fixed to solve the gap problems/heat that the 4th gens had (4770k,4670k)? from what i thought the new gens solved these issues

[i_build_nanosuits]

 this is true but wasnt the new gen intels fixed to solve the gap problems/heat that the 4th gens had (4770k,4670k)? from what i thought the new gens solved these issues

yes the temps are much better now, you can only f*ck up if you delid those chips.

[WoodenMarker]

this is true but wasnt the new gen intels fixed to solve the gap problems/heat that the 4th gens had (4770k,4670k)? from what i thought the new gens solved these issues

No, they just improved voltage delivery with some more capacitors.

yes the temps are much better now, you can only f*ck up if you delid those chips.

Delidding can still yield much improved temps. The issue is the gap and not so much the thermal paste.

[Darkman]

Try again.

^ This, some people can't get a proper mount with a certain method for applying the TIM, some can't get it with the rice method, and others can only do it with the line method. My suggestion is, try whichever of those you didn't try yet.

[Majestic]

Delidding is pointless without using Liquid Ultra.

[sp0rad1c]

No, they just improved voltage delivery with some more capacitors.Delidding can still yield much improved temps. The issue is the gap and not so much the thermal paste.

I replaced both the glue and the TIM and honestly, i've had almost a 20C drop on my processor. It was only 10C when I kept the TIM on and replaced the glue.

[GTX]

Delidding is pointless without using Liquid Ultra.

 

I agree, Or liquid pro. Used both and are basically same thing.