Posted February 28, 2015 Most people say that the Intel i7 5820K is superior but the i7 5930K from what it is looks like the i7 5930K is *WAY-BETTER* in overclocking so post your opinions on if you still think about the prossecors and if the i7 5820K is still worth the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Its better for the price, but its not superior. |King Of The Lost| Project Dark: i7 7820x 5.1GHz | X299 Dark | Trident Z 32GB 3200MHz | GTX 1080Ti Hybrid | Corsair 760t | 1TB Samsung 860 Pro | EVGA Supernova G2 850w | H110i GTX Lava: i9 12900k 5.1GHz (Undervolted to 1.26v)| MSI z690 Pro DDR4| Dominator Platnium 32GB 3800MHz| Power Color Red Devil RX 6950 XT| Seasonic Focus Platnium 850w| NZXT Kraken Z53 Unholy Rampage: i7 5930k 4.7GHz 4.4 Ring| X99 Rampage|Ripjaws IV 16GB 2800 CL13| GTX 1080 Strix(Custom XOC Signed BIOS) | Seasonic Focus Platinum 850w |H100i v2 Revenge of 775: Pentium 641 | Biostar TPower i45| Crucial Tracer 1066 DDR2 | GTX 580 Classified Ultra | EVGA 650 BQ | Noctua NH D14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Most people say that the Intel i7 5820K is superior but the i7 5930K from what it is looks like the i7 5930K is *WAY-BETTER* in overclocking so post your opinions on if you still think about the prossecors and if the i7 5820K is still worth the money What is your source on this? From what I know, they are pretty much the same die, the 5820 might just be a slightly worse bin, and just has the PCIe lines crippled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 All 5xxx 2011-v3 CPU's have roughly the same OC range. 5960x's tend to come in a bit lower, but respectable averages are in the 4.3-4.6 range with a few amazing samples getting into their little 4 core brother's 4.7+range, usually on DICE or LN2. They are all on the same architecture, OCing should be roughly the same across all chips in the Haswell-E line. Similar to the FX series, although the binning has a much narrower scope. LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop | Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop | Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Author What is your source on this? From what I know, they are pretty much the same die, the 5820 might just be a slightly worse bin, and just has the PCIe lines crippled.If you look around, the OC is better and has a higher margin from the stock:http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5930K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 The difference between the 5820k and 5930k is in the PCIE lanes available (24 vs 40, respectively). They both have 6 cores. The 5820k has a base clock of 3.3 and the 5930k has a base clock of 3.5. Your ability to OC will depend on the silicon lottery. I had a 5820k but got a m2 drive and a third graphics card so I moved on to the 5930k. In 99% of the case unless you are building a work station or are building a station just to benchmark then none of the Haswell E chips makes a whole lot of sense to buy. CPU Intel i7 5930k - Motherboard Asus X99 Deluxe - RAM Kingston DDR4 32GB - GPU nVidia GeForce GTX980 3way SLI - Case NZXT H440 – Samsung XP941 m.2, Samsung 850 Pro, WD Black, WD Red - PSU Corsair Ax1200i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 4.7 on NHD-15 here. i7 5930k . 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666 DDR4 . Gigabyte GA-X99-Gaming G1-WIFI . Zotac GeForce GTX 980 AMP! 4GB SLi . Crucial M550 1TB SSD . LG BD . Fractal Design Define R2 Black Pearl . SuperFlower Leadex Gold 750w . BenQ GW2765HT 2560x1440 . CM Storm QF TK MX Blue . SteelSeries Rival i5 2500k/ EVGA Z68SLi/ FX 8320/ Phenom II B55 x4/ MSI 790FX-GD70/ G.skill Ripjaws X 1600 8GB kit/ Geil Black Dragon 1600 4GB kit/ Sapphire Ref R9 290/ XFX DD GHOST 7770 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 If you look around, the OC is better and has a higher margin from the stock: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5930K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K Oh FFS. DO NOT USE CPU BOSS. The reason those results look skewed is ONLY from the difference in base clock. Base clock has NOTHING to do with overclocking when comparing the same architecture. It is only a relative framework for the binning process i.e.- completely meaningless. If Intel did the same thing as AMD and had a 5930k v2 that had a .4GHz higher base clock, then yes, some comparison could be drawn between the relative overclockability as there is a factual correlation with higher binned chips inherently being more stable at a higher clock, but that still does not exclude the ability of a 5820k to OC higher than a 5930k. If you want a real source for OC results use this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1510388/haswell-e-overclock-leaderboard-owners-club LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop | Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop | Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 If you want a real source for OC results use this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1510388/haswell-e-overclock-leaderboard-owners-club Nice link! I am glad they included the cooling method. I can only imagine some poor guy trying to hit a 5.8 OC using air and frying his RIG. CPU Intel i7 5930k - Motherboard Asus X99 Deluxe - RAM Kingston DDR4 32GB - GPU nVidia GeForce GTX980 3way SLI - Case NZXT H440 – Samsung XP941 m.2, Samsung 850 Pro, WD Black, WD Red - PSU Corsair Ax1200i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Author Oh FFS. DO NOT USE CPU BOSS. The reason those results look skewed is ONLY from the difference in base clock. Base clock has NOTHING to do with overclocking when comparing the same architecture. It is only a relative framework for the binning process i.e.- completely meaningless. If Intel did the same thing as AMD and had a 5930k v2 that had a .4GHz higher base clock, then yes, some comparison could be drawn between the relative overclockability as there is a factual correlation with higher binned chips inherently being more stable at a higher clock, but that still does not exclude the ability of a 5820k to OC higher than a 5930k. If you want a real source for OC results use this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1510388/haswell-e-overclock-leaderboard-owners-club Difference in Stock: 0.2Difference in OC: 0.29 Also they probably dissabled cores on the OC.net because that would be impossible other wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Nice link! I am glad they included the cooling method. I can only imagine some poor guy trying to hit a 5.8 OC using air and frying his RIG. HWBot also has an insane amount of ranking data, it's just slightly harder to navigate http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=core_i7_5820k 5820k http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=core_i7_5930k 5930k http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=core_i7_5960x 5960x LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop | Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop | Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Author Difference in Stock: 0.2 Difference in OC: 0.29 Also they probably disabled cores on the OC.net because that would be impossible other wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 Difference in Stock: 0.2 Difference in OC: 0.29 Also they probably dialed cores on the OC.net because that would be impossible other wise! 1) there's no link to where exactly they are pulling that data from (unless you can parse it out yourself) 2) it's patently false if you look at HWBot or Overclock.net data 3) CPUBoss is shit for comparing anything other than basic factual data pulled directly from Intel's ARK database LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop | Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop | Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 28, 2015 My 5820K topped out at 4.8ghz, my 5960X at 4.7. All will max out around this speed Core I7 5960X / Gigabyte X99 SOC Force / Kingston 16GB DDR4 3000 / EVGA GTX 980 Classified's In Quad SLI / EVGA 1600W G2 Core I7 6700K / Asus Z170 Maximus VIII Hero / Corsair 16GB DDR4 3000 / MSI R9 290X Lightning / EVGA 1600W T2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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