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Skylake / Broadwell Comparison

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Hey everyone:

 

So the last enthusiast CPU I bought was 2500k, and that is the one I am still using.  Ever since then it's been a mad rush of 4 years of 37XX, 46XX, 47XX etc, and frankly I find it all very confusing.

 

So, my ill gotten notion was we already have broadwell.  I believe now, we do not, or at least not unlocked.  Are we on Haswell refresh currently? I think so.

 

So, the question is this.  Is Broadwell a die shrink or a refresh of something?  What features does it have over the previous gen?  Now I realize I could easily google these things; but I don't even know what features we have now!

 

Secondly, do you think the Sandybridge i5 is good enough until Skylake or shall I upgrade to Broadwell?  I play Arma, and do a lot of 3ds Max., so I'd most likely get the i7 this time around.

 

So in summary, is the I5 2500K still viable until Skylake (assuming it doesn't die like the suspension on an Audi Allroad tomorrow) or is Broadwell a worth while, value for money upgrade?

 

Cheers

 

 

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go for broadwell :P that is the next one, right?

either way, would still be better than the 2500k, not that that cpu is bad or anything, actually still kicks some ass tbh

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The 2500k will last until Skylake.

Broadwell is just Haswell with a better iGPU (Usefull in tablets) (Not worth the money imo)

Skylake is the one you should be waiting for.

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go for broadwell :P that is the next one, right?

either way, would still be better than the 2500k, not that that cpu is bad or anything, actually still kicks some ass tbh

 

Lol, well until very recently I thought we had broadwell and Skylake was the next one.  

 

What kind of performance gains do you think I could get from the stock clocked 3.5Ghz to whatever the new broad-well equivalent will have?  I know each die gets.. about 10% ipc improvement I think?  Maybe less

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The 2500k will last until Skylake.

Broadwell is just Haswell with a better iGPU (Usefull in tablets) (Not worth the money imo)

Skylake is the one you should be waiting for.

 

So, is Broadwell the "tock" in the Intel strategy of a refresh, or is it the die shrink and Skylake being the tock?

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Hey everyone:

 

So the last enthusiast CPU I bought was 2500k, and that is the one I am still using.  Ever since then it's been a mad rush of 4 years of 37XX, 46XX, 47XX etc, and frankly I find it all very confusing.

 

So, my ill gotten notion was we already have broadwell.  I believe now, we do not, or at least not unlocked.  Are we on Haswell refresh currently? I think so.

 

So, the question is this.  Is Broadwell a die shrink or a refresh of something?  What features does it have over the previous gen?  Now I realize I could easily google these things; but I don't even know what features we have now!

 

Secondly, do you think the Sandybridge i5 is good enough until Skylake or shall I upgrade to Broadwell?  I play Arma, and do a lot of 3ds Max., so I'd most likely get the i7 this time around.

 

So in summary, is the I5 2500K still viable until Skylake (assuming it doesn't die like the suspension on an Audi Allroad tomorrow) or is Broadwell a worth while, value for money upgrade?

 

Cheers

That processor is still plenty strong, you could wait until Skylake or later to be honest.  Just OC your 2500k.

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So, is Broadwell the "tock" in the Intel strategy of a refresh, or is it the die shrink and Skylake being the tock?

If i remember the latest tick would be the 2011-3 so broadwell is the tock.

Skylake will be the next tick.

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Lol, well until very recently I thought we had broadwell and Skylake was the next one.  

 

What kind of performance gains do you think I could get from the stock clocked 3.5Ghz to whatever the new broad-well equivalent will have?  I know each die gets.. about 10% ipc improvement I think?  Maybe less

if you wait till skylake, you will probably notice the difference in certain tasks, others not so much. but like the others are saying, this cpu will definitely last you.

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This is pretty useful I think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

 

Broadwell is a die shrink, and thus a tick. It just released for laptops and you'll find it in the new Dell XPS 13 and anything else that released since CES this year (technically came out last year but few notable laptops used it). Being a die shrink, it's main benefit is less power draw and heat output, making it much more ideal for laptops and ultrabooks. To go along with that line of thinking was also a much bigger emphasis on integrated graphics, since it's for machines without dedicated graphics. It has not released for desktops yet. And it's not looking like it will really add much for desktops either with the emphasis on less power draw.

 

Skylake is a new architecture, and thus a tock. It was supposed to come out this year, but with the delay of Broadwell, who knows. The new architectures (ie Sandy Bridge, Haswell) are usually when there is an increase in speed, if at all, so it would probably be your best bet for a good upgrade.

 

As everyone has said, the 2500k is really good though. Try to get better cooling to overclock it more, and you'll really not be missing out on anything these newer processors offer. Nothing mind blowing has really come out, unless you're at the very high end with the -e line, such as 8-core Haswell-e.

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Skylake will probably be here around September unless Intel delays it

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So, is Broadwell the "tock" in the Intel strategy of a refresh, or is it the die shrink and Skylake being the tock?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

 

According to this:

Tick - shrink (broadwell)

Tock - new microarchitecture (skylake)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

 

According to this:

Tick - shrink (broadwell)

Tock - new microarchitecture (skylake)

 

this is correct. the last Tick was Ivy Bridge (although Intel labelled it as Tick Plus, because it was a die shrink with architecture refinements like 3D transistors etc), and next/current tick is broadwell.

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So in summary, is the I5 2500K still viable until Skylake (assuming it doesn't die like the suspension on an Audi Allroad tomorrow) or is Broadwell a worth while, value for money upgrade?

 

If my i5-750 is viable until Skylake (and it is), your 2500K most assuredly is.

 

If Intel is still standing by their late-2015 release for Skylake you aren't likely to have to make any hard decisions between Broadwell and Skylake. There just isn't time left for Broadwell to release with all of the same desktop SKUs. Rumors floating around are that Broadwell may remain a mobile-only architecture, or that if it comes to desktops at all it may be i7 SKUs only or something.

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