amd 290 question

[mineblaster]

ive recently upgraded to 2x asus 290's and i had to reinstall windows as i could not get it restarted as i could run it very long before getting a BSOD

 

it would refer to "a display driver has stopped working and timed out"

 

i have all of windows updates have been completed and all the drivers are installed installed

 

it only seems to happen most of the time when i alt tab but has occurred while playing games and i never had these problems with my 7970

 

any help is good 

 

 

(ps: if anyone says because its amd i dont need to hear it)

 

system specs

intel 4770k

gigabyte z87 oc

16gb kingston beast memory

seagate 120gb ssd

[zappian]

Check the temps.

 

That cooler is notorious.

[Nup]

have you downloaded the latest amd drivers for the 290s too? 

 

Nm misread your post. 

[mineblaster]

Check the temps.

 

That cooler is notorious.

42 on the first and 35 and the second they are the direct cu2

[zappian]

42 on the first and 35 and the second they are the direct cu2

 

Im talking load temps.

 

Are they under 80 c?

[ApolloX75]

ive recently upgraded to 2x asus 290's and i had to reinstall windows as i could not get it restarted as i could run it very long before getting a BSOD

it would refer to "a display driver has stopped working and timed out"

i have all of windows updates have been completed and all the drivers are installed installed

it only seems to happen most of the time when i alt tab but has occurred while playing games and i never had these problems with my 7970

any help is good

(ps: if anyone says because its amd i dont need to hear it)

system specs

intel 4770k

gigabyte z87 oc

16gb kingston beast memory

seagate 120gb ssd

Monitor power usage? How's your PSU holding up? Those 290Xs are thirsty beasts, maybe they're drawing too much for your PSU to supply?

Keep in mind if you have a PSU that has a couple years under its belt they do suffer from degradation and capacitor aging.

[chopdok]

Im talking load temps.

 

Are they under 80 c?

2x R9 290? Under 80c? Only if OP has water cooling.

 

Whats the PSU model and specs?

[Nup]

Monitor power usage? How's your PSU holding up? Those 290Xs are thirsty beasts, maybe they're drawing too much for your PSU to supply?

Keep in mind if you have a PSU that has a couple years under its belt they do suffer from degradation and capacitor aging.

 

I think that it would result in a crash, as oppose to a driver issue. 

[chopdok]

I think that it would result in a crash, as oppose to a driver issue. 

Actually, due to that power tune thing they have - portions of card's power management are handled driver-side.

[Nup]

Actually, due to that power tune thing they have - portions of card's power management are handled driver-side.

 

Huh good to know, cheers Although would the drivers crash because of this? i would have thought they just insta-quit whatever is running.

[zappian]

2x R9 290? Under 80c? Only if OP has water cooling.

 

Whats the PSU model and specs?

 

Thats what I mean.

 

Load temps are probably high :3

[mineblaster]

Im talking load temps.

 

Are they under 80 c?

15mins on furmark it stopped @ 76C

[mineblaster]

2x R9 290? Under 80c? Only if OP has water cooling.

 

Whats the PSU model and specs?

just the asus direct cu2 coolers maybe water cooling annother day

 

and the powersupply is corsair HX1000W

[chopdok]

Thats what I mean.

 

Load temps are probably high :3

They are supposed to be high. R9 290 actually handles throttling surprisingly well. You can lose craptons of performance, but the card almost never crashes due to thermals. That is because the card can change its pstate faster, more frequently. Which brings us to the rather nasty side effect - the card puts a lot of strain on the PSU, and is more sensitive to ripple than many other GPUs. That is not really a design oversight - it was never meant to run on weak budget PSUs.

[chopdok]

just the asus direct cu2 coolers maybe water cooling annother day

 

and the powersupply is corsair HX1000W

Awright. Then, a few things :

 

1st of all, That is a twin-rail 12v PSU. With 2 separate transformers. Rails are symmetrical. You need to check how your cards are connected to these rails - if you have both cards sitting at the same rail - it is obviously an issue.

 

2nd. Are you overclocking your CPU? That might not necessary be a problem, because that PSU is actually 1500w PSU, but still...its not brand new. The quality of power (ripple) degraded over the years.

[mineblaster]

and also if i leave my pc on over a day or two and come back to playing games theres really bad framerate loss 10-15 fps but corrects self after an restart

 

and also running win7 pro 64bit

 

i did run the 3dmark demo on both cards and indvidual cards and no problems

[Megahurt]

I would start by testing each card by themselves, if only one card causes problems, it's a defective card.

[mineblaster]

Awright. Then, a few things :

 

1st of all, That is a twin-rail 12v PSU. With 2 separate transformers. Rails are symmetrical. You need to check how your cards are connected to these rails - if you have both cards sitting at the same rail - it is obviously an issue.

 

2nd. Are you overclocking your CPU? That might not necessary be a problem, because that PSU is actually 1500w PSU, but still...its not brand new. The quality of power (ripple) degraded over the years.

no overclocks (too scared to break something)

 

one of the cards 12v1 and the other into 12v2 it looks like they are on different rails

[chopdok]

no overclocks (too scared to break something)

 

one of the cards 12v1 and the other into 12v2 it looks like they are on different rails

Double-check with your PSU manual. Usually, in semi-modular designs, the PCIE power cables that are attachable are on one rail, while the ones that come from PSU are the other rail.

[mineblaster]

Then it could just be an issue of Crossfire support in those games?

ive been playing

 

csgo

Depth

orcs must die 2

civ 5

 

ive manly played depth but i played 5 hours of civ 5 and i bsod me aswell

[mineblaster]

So you got not problems running 3dmark in all configs...

 

Then it could just be an issue of Crossfire support in those games you played?

 the test i can find

 

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/1066948/fs/4052451

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4101053

[mineblaster]

If it took 5 hours of gaming I don't think anything graphics related is the cause of the problem. Could be your CPU instead. Is it overclocked?

still stock speeds (dont want too brake it)

[mineblaster]

Double-check with your PSU manual. Usually, in semi-modular designs, the PCIE power cables that are attachable are on one rail, while the ones that come from PSU are the other rail.

ive looked into it

 

  

 

so ive got one card in the one side the v1 side and the other in the v2 side

[mineblaster]

Your 3dmark scores are not that important.

 

What's important is that it made it through 3dmark and 5 hours of gaming without crashing.

 

I suspect your cards are not the culprit.

could a windows service not be working correctly as the network controller dose not start on startup but if restarted via device manger works fine

[mineblaster]

I don't see a connection between your network controller and your crashing issue.

just ideas looking at windows logs

 

 

http://prntscr.com/68vi7z

 

maybe it is time for an power supply