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i'm going to upgrade to R9 280x or may be R9 280 Gigabyte .

 

but i don't know rather i can run it on a VS 550 with a rig in sig. or not . coz 80% means 440watts where PPP shows 452 watts.

actually i don't want system crashes during gaming when its using all the power i have ....will my rig bottleneck my PSU during high end gaming ?

Plz advise.....

CPU: i7 4790K | Ram:Corsair Vengeance 8GB | GPU: Asus R9 270 | Cooling :Corsair H100i | Storage : Intel SSD, Seagate HDDs | PSU : Corsair VS 550 | Case: CM HAF Advanced.

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Hi

i'm going to upgrade to R9 280x or may be R9 280 Gigabyte .

 

but i don't know rather i can run it on a VS 550 with a rig in sig. or not . coz 80% means 440watts where PPP shows 452 watts.

actually i don't want system crashes during gaming when its using all the power i have ....will my rig bottleneck my PSU during high end gaming ?

Plz advise.....

you can run it if the 12v rail equals about 400W (Volts X amps=watts) EDIT-yes you can its around 42amp/500w on the 12v rail.

also power supply's show output dc current (to the system) regardless of efficiency, its capable of outputting exactly what it says.

my RM750w can output 750w (actually it did 971 for a good 30 seconds under furmark before i stopped it). at 90% efficiency it will draw about 830w from the wall if i managed to fully load it (which sli 480's in furmark with a cpu stress test does it seems)

here * means x, and .8 is 80% [learn fractions people]

550*1.2=660w from the wall

660w (from the wall) x .8= 528w to the system...not enough

680w (from the wall)= x.8=544w to the system. so thats about right.

if your system was 90% efficient, to get the 544w it can possibly deliverl it wouldnt waste as much and would only pull about 610w from the socket, hence more efficient power supplys save you money over time...but usually cost more.

from guru3d.

Power consumption Radeon R9-280X

  1. System in IDLE = 121W
  2. System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 350W
  3. Difference (GPU load) = 229W
  4. Add average IDLE wattage ~10W
  5. Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 239 Watts

you'll be around the 47% limit of what your psu can do so right in the sweet spot of where 80+ is measured

at 240w system draw in heavy gaming your pc will draw around (assuming 80% efficency) 300W from the wall.

Falcon: Corsair 750D 8320at4.6ghz 1.3v | 4GB MSI Gaming R9-290 @1000/1250 | 2x8GB 2400mhz Kingston HyperX Beast | Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula | Antec H620 | Corsair RM750w | Crucial M500 240GB, Toshiba 2TB, DarkThemeMasterRace, my G3258 has an upgrade path, my fx8320 doesn't need one...total cost £840=cpu£105, board£65, ram£105, Cooler £20, GPU£200, PSU£88, SSD£75, HDD£57, case£125.

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CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
CASE:-TBD, CPU:-Core2Quad QX9650 @4Ghz, COOLER:-OCZ 92mm tower thing, BOARD:-MSI p43-c51, RAM:-4x1GB 800mhz Corsair XMS2, GPU: Zotac GTX460se @800/1000, PSU:-OCZ600sxs, HDD:-WD green 160GBBlueJean-A
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Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
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CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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You sure can.

Also, get a 280, not a 280X.

yeah you are right . 280 not X . why Amd launched 280X ?????? i didn't understand as i compare the specs ! if i'm the CEO i'll never do this with few more bits and byte new launch will break down the sales....!!!

CPU: i7 4790K | Ram:Corsair Vengeance 8GB | GPU: Asus R9 270 | Cooling :Corsair H100i | Storage : Intel SSD, Seagate HDDs | PSU : Corsair VS 550 | Case: CM HAF Advanced.

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i think it'll be just enough , probably need to get a higher one if you are going for a crossfire

I'm not dual card person ..i always buy one which fulfill my needs

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wasn't the 280x replaced by the 285?

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you can run it if the 12v rail equals about 400W (Volts X amps=watts) EDIT-yes you can its around 42amp/500w on the 12v rail.

also power supply's show output dc current (to the system) regardless of efficiency, its capable of outputting exactly what it says.

my RM750w can output 750w (actually it did 971 for a good 30 seconds under furmark before i stopped it). at 90% efficiency it will draw about 830w from the wall if i managed to fully load it (which sli 480's in furmark with a cpu stress test does it seems)

here * means x, and .8 is 80% [learn fractions people]

550*1.2=660w from the wall

660w (from the wall) x .8= 528w to the system...not enough

680w (from the wall)= x.8=544w to the system. so thats about right.

if your system was 90% efficient, to get the 544w it can possibly deliverl it wouldnt waste as much and would only pull about 610w from the socket, hence more efficient power supplys save you money over time...but usually cost more.

from guru3d.

Power consumption Radeon R9-280X

  1. System in IDLE = 121W
  2. System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 350W
  3. Difference (GPU load) = 229W
  4. Add average IDLE wattage ~10W
  5. Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 239 Watts

you'll be around the 47% limit of what your psu can do so right in the sweet spot of where 80+ is measured

at 240w system draw in heavy gaming your pc will draw around (assuming 80% efficency) 300W from the wall.

 

you sound like one of my Electrical engineer friend ....it was very helpful. Thanks :)

CPU: i7 4790K | Ram:Corsair Vengeance 8GB | GPU: Asus R9 270 | Cooling :Corsair H100i | Storage : Intel SSD, Seagate HDDs | PSU : Corsair VS 550 | Case: CM HAF Advanced.

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I'd recommend a R9 290, they're really cheap right now.

come to Dubai bro .lol it cost $752 here after including 19% tax , 3% GST(general sales tax) and 5.5% of some kind of fucking A-rab sheikhs Ass tax.... lol

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wasn't the 280x replaced by the 285?

the 280x is a 7970 (full tahiti) core.

the 285 uses a cut down tahiti (7950 to be precise) core on a 7870 PCB.

replaced the 7870Tahiti le if anything (should of been the 7890)

guide

nothing-290x........2816sp/176tmu/64rops

nothing-290..........2560sp/160tmu/64rops

7970-280x............2048sp/128tmu/32rops

7950-280.............1792sp/112tmu/32rops 3GB 384bit

nothing-285.........1792sp/112tmu/32rops 2GB 256bit

7870TLE-nothing..1536sp/96tmu/32rops 2GB 256bit

7870-270/270x.....1280sp/80tmu/32rops

7850-265..............1024sp/64tmu/32rops

7790-260x..............896sp/56tmu/16rops

nothing-260............768sp cant remember 16rops

7770-250x..............640sp/40tmu/16rops

7750-nothing..........512sp/32tmu/16rops

noone cares below this.

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 CASE:-NZXT S340 Black, CPU:-FX8120 @4.2Ghz, COOLER:-CM Hyper 212 EVO, BOARD:-MSI 970 Gaming, RAM:-2x4gb 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance Pro, GPU: SLI EVGA GTX480's @700/1000, PSU:-Corsair CX600m, HDD:-WD green 160GB+2TB toshiba
CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
CASE:-TBD, CPU:-Core2Quad QX9650 @4Ghz, COOLER:-OCZ 92mm tower thing, BOARD:-MSI p43-c51, RAM:-4x1GB 800mhz Corsair XMS2, GPU: Zotac GTX460se @800/1000, PSU:-OCZ600sxs, HDD:-WD green 160GBBlueJean-A
 CASE:-Black/Blue Sharkoon T9, CPU:-Phenom2 x4 B55 @3.6Ghz/1.4v, COOLER:-FX8320 Stock HSF, BOARD:-M5A78L-M/USB3, RAM:-4GB 1333mhz Kingston low profile at 1600mhz, GPU:-EVGA GTX285, PSU:-Antec TP550w modu, STORAGE:-240gb  M500+2TB Toshiba
CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
CASE:-Packard Bell iMedia X2424, Custom black/red Aerocool Xpredator fulltower, CPU's:-E5200, C2D [email protected]<script cf-hash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script>(so e8500), COOLER:-Scythe Big shuriken2 Rev B, BFG gtx260 sp216 OC, RAM:-tons..
Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
PICTURES CASE:-CIT mars black+red, CPU:-Athlon K6 650mhz slot A, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-QDI Kinetiz 7a, RAM:-256+256+256MB 133mhz SDram, GPU:-inno3d geforce4 mx440 64mb, PSU:-E-Zcool 450w, STORAGE:-2x WD 40gb "black" drives,
CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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yeah you are right . 280 not X . why Amd launched 280X ?????? i didn't understand as i compare the specs ! if i'm the CEO i'll never do this with few more bits and byte new launch will break down the sales....!!!

read my last post.

Falcon: Corsair 750D 8320at4.6ghz 1.3v | 4GB MSI Gaming R9-290 @1000/1250 | 2x8GB 2400mhz Kingston HyperX Beast | Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula | Antec H620 | Corsair RM750w | Crucial M500 240GB, Toshiba 2TB, DarkThemeMasterRace, my G3258 has an upgrade path, my fx8320 doesn't need one...total cost £840=cpu£105, board£65, ram£105, Cooler £20, GPU£200, PSU£88, SSD£75, HDD£57, case£125.

 CASE:-NZXT S340 Black, CPU:-FX8120 @4.2Ghz, COOLER:-CM Hyper 212 EVO, BOARD:-MSI 970 Gaming, RAM:-2x4gb 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance Pro, GPU: SLI EVGA GTX480's @700/1000, PSU:-Corsair CX600m, HDD:-WD green 160GB+2TB toshiba
CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
CASE:-TBD, CPU:-Core2Quad QX9650 @4Ghz, COOLER:-OCZ 92mm tower thing, BOARD:-MSI p43-c51, RAM:-4x1GB 800mhz Corsair XMS2, GPU: Zotac GTX460se @800/1000, PSU:-OCZ600sxs, HDD:-WD green 160GBBlueJean-A
 CASE:-Black/Blue Sharkoon T9, CPU:-Phenom2 x4 B55 @3.6Ghz/1.4v, COOLER:-FX8320 Stock HSF, BOARD:-M5A78L-M/USB3, RAM:-4GB 1333mhz Kingston low profile at 1600mhz, GPU:-EVGA GTX285, PSU:-Antec TP550w modu, STORAGE:-240gb  M500+2TB Toshiba
CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
CASE:-Packard Bell iMedia X2424, Custom black/red Aerocool Xpredator fulltower, CPU's:-E5200, C2D [email protected]<script cf-hash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script>(so e8500), COOLER:-Scythe Big shuriken2 Rev B, BFG gtx260 sp216 OC, RAM:-tons..
Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
PICTURES CASE:-CIT mars black+red, CPU:-Athlon K6 650mhz slot A, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-QDI Kinetiz 7a, RAM:-256+256+256MB 133mhz SDram, GPU:-inno3d geforce4 mx440 64mb, PSU:-E-Zcool 450w, STORAGE:-2x WD 40gb "black" drives,
CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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the 280x is a 7970 (full tahiti) core.

the 285 uses a cut down tahiti (7950 to be precise) core on a 7870 PCB.

replaced the 7870Tahiti le if anything (should of been the 7890)

-snip-

 

The R9-285 uses a different GPU core than the R9-270(X) or the R9-280(X).

It's updated GCN design (kind of like a working experiment...like the GTX 750Ti if you will)

  • Tonga GCN 1.2 on the 285 versus Pitcairn GNC 1.0 on the 270(X)
  • 359mm^s versus 212mm^2 die size
  • Not Crossfire Bridge required on the 285 versus needed on the 270X
  • etc

Rather, it is a new and condensed version of the Hawaii GPU in the Radeon R9 290 and 290X. Among other things this means it has four times the number of asynchronous compute engines, that's eight instead of the Radeon R9 280/280X's two.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-285-tonga,3925.html

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