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If you get a 280 and fx6300

Itll perform better than a i5 with r7 260x

I3 is 120

Fx 6300 is 80

R9 280 vs 270

Or

290 vs 280

The price diff is as close as i3 and fx6300

Yet the performance increase from 270 to 280 is significant in 1080

290 is 30% better than 280

The most bottleneck is 10fps from amd

But the gpu will recover it anyways or even be more superior

Price drops solve problems

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


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Which i5 exactly?

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Need help putting together a build?

Before anyone butts in, please take note he is in Singapore.

Hahahaha everything is overpriced here xD

But its still the same story outside imho

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


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This is why i would choose an i5 and a 290 :P :P

I mean for budget consious ppl

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


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Which i5 exactly?

4690k

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


―  C.S. Lewis  :)

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Wanna know what really sucks.... The ONE GAME I tested (in diff locations) had pretty substantial results...

Keep in mind, Both systems are up to date, I built them both, following similar routines...

 

My System = i5 + R9 290

VS

Friends System = FX6300 + HD7950 (280) <-- the 280 is NO SLOUCH, providing MORE than 2/3 (60%+) of the 290's power.

 

Important bits...

So my mate has 2/3 or higher equivalent of my 290's ability.

 

My i5 and my 290 get 90-100fps Consistent Average FPS

 

So you'd be thinking the 280 would be @ or around 60FPS or higher...AT ALL TIMES.

Yet he is CONSISTENTLY averaging 28-35fps, with occasional rises to 45-60fps, which quickly falls back down on its ass.

I've checked over everything more than once...

 

His Bottleneck is REAL - His GPU is 60%+ of mine, yet only gets 25-35% the Average FPS I do.

(Not indicative of all games, I know that, but still....FUCK THAT SHIT)

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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Wanna know what really sucks.... The ONE GAME I tested (in diff locations) had pretty substantial results...

Keep in mind, Both systems are up to date, I built them both, following similar routines...

My System = i5 + R9 290

VS

Friends System = FX6300 + HD7950 (280) <-- the 280 is NO SLOUCH, providing MORE than 2/3 of the 290's power.

Important bits...

So my mate has 2/3 or higher equivalent of my 290's ability.

My i5 and my 290 get 90-100fps Consistent Average FPS

So you'd be thinking the 280 would be @ or around 60FPS or higher...AT ALL TIMES.

Yet he is CONSISTENTLY averaging 28-35fps, with occasional rises to 45-60fps, which quickly falls back down on its ass.

I've checked over everything more than once...

His Bottleneck is REAL

(Not indicative of all games, I know that, but still....FUCK THAT SHIT)

Unlucky :(

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


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I mean for budget consious ppl

I know, i'm just kidding. I mostly agree with you. I like the FX6300 CPU, but the chipset is sooo old.  I guess it's fine for most people, but not for me. 

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Unlucky :(

Luck has nothing to do with it though...

Just the way AMD's cookie crumbles... on those games that do not use them properly...

 

The most bottleneck is 10fps from amd

 

What are you smoking!!!!!?!

You can't blanket a statement like that when it's not true.

I'm not saying there isn't a performance drop, but saying it's just 10fps is silly...

Varies game to game, sometimes VERY DRASTIC in the difference... like 50% or more...

Some games it's tied, some games it is a few percent behind...

 

You can't attach a value like 10fps in all things though....and say it's what it is...

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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4690k

 

There are cheaper ones you know. Like the i5 4460.

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Are you contemplating on a new build?

I'm in SG and have access to prices here.

I can help formulate a build if you are having difficulty.

Or help clear up uncertainties if you have any.

Whats the price of r9 295x2 now

Used to be 2.5k even when price in usd dropped to 1000

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


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@applesuxD

Are you contemplating on a new build?

I'm in SG and have access to prices here.

I can help formulate a build if you are having difficulty.

Or help clear up uncertainties if you have any.

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CYLmBm) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CYLmBm/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k) | $299.99 @ Micro Center

**CPU Cooler** | [Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 99.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-cpu-cooler-clw007pl12bla) | $139.99 @ Amazon

**Thermal Compound** | [Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-thermal-paste-acmx4) | $6.99 @ SuperBiiz

**Motherboard** | [Asus X99-DELUXE ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-x99deluxe) | $372.55 @ SuperBiiz

**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmk32gx4m4a2400c14) | $415.99 @ Amazon

**Storage** | [Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1) | $99.99 @ Micro Center

**Storage** | [Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1003fzex) | $74.98 @ NCIX US

**Video Card** | [sapphire Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100360sr) | $998.99 @ SuperBiiz

**Case** | [NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-cah440ww1) | $108.99 @ SuperBiiz

**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p21200x1) | $229.99 @ SuperBiiz

**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700403) | $99.98 @ OutletPC

**Case Fan** | [Antec True Quiet 120 WHITE 35.3 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-fan-truequiet120white) | $12.27 @ Mwave

**Case Fan** | [Antec True Quiet 120 WHITE 35.3 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-fan-truequiet120white) | $12.27 @ Mwave

**Case Fan** | [Antec True Quiet 120 WHITE 35.3 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-fan-truequiet120white) | $12.27 @ Mwave

**Case Fan** | [Antec True Quiet 120 WHITE 35.3 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-fan-truequiet120white) | $12.27 @ Mwave

**Case Fan** | [Enermax UCTVS12P-W 76.0 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-fan-uctvs12pw) | $14.99 @ Amazon

**Case Fan** | [Enermax UCTVS12P-W 76.0 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-fan-uctvs12pw) | $14.99 @ Amazon

**Case Fan** | [Enermax UCTVS12P-W 76.0 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-fan-uctvs12pw) | $14.99 @ Amazon

**Other**| mayflower odac| $150.00

| | **Total**

| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $3092.48

| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-02 12:34 EST-0500 |

I might not get the 295 as the price hike is mad

White themed build but not overly white xP

Whats the price n possible bargain price of this

Also.... Anywhere else but funan and sls

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


―  C.S. Lewis  :)

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Well in Singapore that would cost about SGD $<out_of_range>

And apart from SLS you should be able to get them from <Error 404 Not Found>

#singapore ;-;

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


―  C.S. Lewis  :)

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I can't find a R9 295X2 listed here, but Fuwell has the Asus ROG Ares III for $2700.

Haha only $2700

haha

ha...

*jumps of top floor*

Wow

The price is plain nonsensical..

Just gonna ship it since i can buy two of it with the same price

Pls sls stop being shitty :(

All fall but nigles fuwell and some other

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


―  C.S. Lewis  :)

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AMD GPUs don't really run well with low end CPUs so it seems,

 

i wish they would have continued looking at this in different games, but this is all they did.

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in singapore all you need to be able to run is MU and MapleStory..

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the problem is that people play lots of different games with lots of different hardware configs. mantle is another thing to consider as well. 

Rig Specs:

AMD Threadripper 5990WX@4.8Ghz

Asus Zenith III Extreme

Asrock OC Formula 7970XTX Quadfire

G.Skill Ripheartout X OC 7000Mhz C28 DDR5 4X16GB  

Super Flower Power Leadex 2000W Psu's X2

Harrynowl's 775/771 OC and mod guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/232325-lga775-core2duo-core2quad-overclocking-guide/ http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/365998-mod-lga771-to-lga775-cpu-modification-tutorial/

ProKoN haswell/DC OC guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/

 

"desperate for just a bit more money to watercool, the titan x would be thankful" Carter -2016

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I like AMD as much as the next guy, but their CPU platform is just so freaking ancient. They're still on AM3, that socket has been around for donkeys years.

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I like AMD as much as the next guy, but their CPU platform is just so freaking ancient. They're still on AM3, that socket has been around for donkeys years.

*am3+ :P

Rig Specs:

AMD Threadripper 5990WX@4.8Ghz

Asus Zenith III Extreme

Asrock OC Formula 7970XTX Quadfire

G.Skill Ripheartout X OC 7000Mhz C28 DDR5 4X16GB  

Super Flower Power Leadex 2000W Psu's X2

Harrynowl's 775/771 OC and mod guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/232325-lga775-core2duo-core2quad-overclocking-guide/ http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/365998-mod-lga771-to-lga775-cpu-modification-tutorial/

ProKoN haswell/DC OC guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/

 

"desperate for just a bit more money to watercool, the titan x would be thankful" Carter -2016

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okay, but still... it's Ooooooold.

yes it is prehistoric in pc terms new. if it came out in 2005 intel would have released about 20 new gens of cpus in the time period it has been out :P

Rig Specs:

AMD Threadripper 5990WX@4.8Ghz

Asus Zenith III Extreme

Asrock OC Formula 7970XTX Quadfire

G.Skill Ripheartout X OC 7000Mhz C28 DDR5 4X16GB  

Super Flower Power Leadex 2000W Psu's X2

Harrynowl's 775/771 OC and mod guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/232325-lga775-core2duo-core2quad-overclocking-guide/ http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/365998-mod-lga771-to-lga775-cpu-modification-tutorial/

ProKoN haswell/DC OC guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/

 

"desperate for just a bit more money to watercool, the titan x would be thankful" Carter -2016

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AMD GPUs don't really run well with low end CPUs so it seems,

i wish they would have continued looking at this in different games, but this is all they did.

U sure that game isnt cpu intensive

“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”


 


―  C.S. Lewis  :)

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Wanna know what really sucks.... The ONE GAME I tested (in diff locations) had pretty substantial results...

Keep in mind, Both systems are up to date, I built them both, following similar routines...

 

My System = i5 + R9 290

VS

Friends System = FX6300 + HD7950 (280) <-- the 280 is NO SLOUCH, providing MORE than 2/3 (60%+) of the 290's power.

 

Important bits...

So my mate has 2/3 or higher equivalent of my 290's ability.

 

My i5 and my 290 get 90-100fps Consistent Average FPS

 

So you'd be thinking the 280 would be @ or around 60FPS or higher...AT ALL TIMES.

Yet he is CONSISTENTLY averaging 28-35fps, with occasional rises to 45-60fps, which quickly falls back down on its ass.

I've checked over everything more than once...

 

His Bottleneck is REAL - His GPU is 60%+ of mine, yet only gets 25-35% the Average FPS I do.

(Not indicative of all games, I know that, but still....FUCK THAT SHIT)

 

 

Just go look at 280 benhcmarks instead of using broscience. 

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-radeon-dual-x-r9-280,3914-3.html

 

The problem with CPU bottlenecks is they vary not just on game but on rendering scene.  There's this one window in the first mission of Crysis 3 that if I look through it, my framerate tanks to 35 FPS.  Everywhere else will run double or triple that... but something about the way that window interacts with my pc causes it to do that.  Likewise, if you stare at the floor everyone gets 90+FPS...

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