Unusual Storage Problems.

[nicholician]

I have a 120gb Kingston V300 SSD to go alongside my 1tb hdd. of that 120gb, 111 is usable. I have approximatly 48 GB left, but all the stuff on the drive, according to their properties, should only take up 32.9 GB. Why is it doing this, and where is my other storage going?

 

 

[JeffreyEagan]

control panel>system>advanced system settings>performance>advanced>virtual memory

[slightlyjaded]

lol, windows page/ swap files. basically those temporary files that windows uses to pretend that it can run more than one program at a time. That and your temporary internet files.

[QueenDemetria]

Depending on how much system RAM you have and how heavy of a workload you have(as in, using a bunch of "RAM"), you could be seeing some of your storage being used as cache. Usually this only takes up 5Gb, but in cases like my POS Inspiron I had managed to accumulate 20Gb of cache. In the RAM tab of task manager it should tell you how much is caching(not sure exactly where, not too familiar with W8). Check this first, but if you are only using the usual 5Gb or so you might have a bigger issue.

 

Edit: Also if you do nothing its not that big of an issue, because Windows will automatically delete cache that isn't needed if you need the space.

[nicholician]

Depending on how much system RAM you have and how heavy of a workload you have(as in, using a bunch of "RAM"), you could be seeing some of your storage being used as cache. Usually this only takes up 5Gb, but in cases like my POS Inspiron I had managed to accumulate 20Gb of cache. In the RAM tab of task manager it should tell you how much is caching(not sure exactly where, not too familiar with W8). Check this first, but if you are only using the usual 5Gb or so you might have a bigger issue.

 

Edit: Also if you do nothing its not that big of an issue, because Windows will automatically delete cache that isn't needed if you need the space.

I have only managed to accumulate 1GB of cached memory. (this is a fairly new build) so thats not the problem.

[nicholician]

lol, windows page/ swap files. basically those temporary files that windows uses to pretend that it can run more than one program at a time. That and your temporary internet files.

Where can i find the temporary internet files?

[nicholician]

control panel>system>advanced system settings>performance>advanced>virtual memory

Oh great, new problem. When I try to go into system, it says not responding. A reboot wouldn't fix it

[JeffreyEagan]

Oh great, new problem. When I try to go into system, it says not responding. A reboot wouldn't fix it

Mneh. OS problems. yaaaay.

[nicholician]

Mneh. OS problems. yaaaay.

Even better!

[nicholician]

Even better!

Any recommendations? It was working fine some time ago (maybe a couple weeks ago i went into that section of the control pannel)

[slightlyjaded]

Where can i find the temporary internet files?

Control panel>internet options>remove temporary internet files

[nicholician]

Control panel>internet options>remove temporary internet files

Well that freed up 100mb, but not the huge amount I was looking for

[DirkW]

Pagefile, hibernation file? Both are hidden but still take a lot of space (up to 100-150% of RAM size - each).

[nicholician]

Pagefile, hibernation file? Both are hidden but still take a lot of space (up to 100-150% of RAM size - each).

so where would those files be found?

[DirkW]

so where would those files be found?

 

In the root folder on drive C: - but they are invisible in windows explorer, unless you change settings in folder options.

[nicholician]

In the root folder on drive C: - but they are invisible in windows explorer, unless you change settings in folder options.

No wonder I haven't found any traces of those.

[TheMcSame]

The way storage is marketed is very shady.

 

Storage is marketed using base 10 (decimal). This system sees 1TB as 1000GB 

However, Windows sees storage using a base 2 system (binary). This means that 1TB = 1024GB. 

 

As Windows works using a base 2 system and manufacturers market drives using a base 10 system, a 1TB hard drive is going to show up as a 931GB drive. Though from what I worked out it should be closer to 908GB which means you're actually being sold a bit more than 1TB.

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You haven't lost any storage, it's just the different measurements that are in place.

 

 

That's my "guess" anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course there's always hidden files taking up space that W.E. can't see... If that's what you're on about... Yeah I probably wasted my time writing out the first bit didn't I?

[slightlyjaded]

Something nobody has brought up yet. Is it possible that the drive is starting to lose memory? This is a year and a bit old SSD now (No idea how long ago you brought it, just going off release date) and it only had a 3 year warranty to go with it, so kingston didn't have that much faith in it to begin with.

 

All the temporary windows files wouldn't help, but you might want to run an analyzer over the drive.

 

Apologies, link I posted got terrible reviews. removed it.

[nicholician]

The way storage is marketed is very shady.

 

Storage is marketed using base 10 (decimal). This system sees 1TB as 1000GB 

However, Windows sees storage using a base 2 system (binary). This means that 1TB = 1024GB. 

 

As Windows works using a base 2 system and manufacturers market drives using a base 10 system, a 1TB hard drive is going to show up as a 931GB drive. Though from what I worked out it should be closer to 908GB which means you're actually being sold a bit more than 1TB.

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You haven't lost any storage, it's just the different measurements that are in place.

 

 

That's my "guess" anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course there's always hidden files taking up space that W.E. can't see... If that's what you're on about... Yeah I probably wasted my time writing out the first bit didn't I?

You may have wasted your time. I'm looking for those hidden files 

[nicholician]

Something nobody has brought up yet. Is it possible that the drive is starting to lose memory? This is a year and a bit old SSD now (No idea how long ago you brought it, just going off release date) and it only had a 3 year warranty to go with it, so kingston didn't have that much faith in it to begin with.

 

All the temporary windows files wouldn't help, but you might want to run an analyzer over the drive.

 

Apologies, link I posted got terrible reviews. removed it.

Yea, I'm going to use spacesniffer on my SSD once my exams are over (High school student here). I don't see how my SSD being an older product would affect storage capabilities, since i've only had it for a month now.

[slightlyjaded]

Yea, I'm going to use spacesniffer on my SSD once my exams are over (High school student here). I don't see how my SSD being an older product would affect storage capabilities, since i've only had it for a month now.

An SSD is rated by the number of writes it can do. A certain recent game is known to completely fry an SSd if installed upon it. the anti piracy sioftware has the drive constantly writing and erasing. Thank you EA....

[DirkW]

The way storage is marketed is very shady. Nothing shady about it. HDD manufacturers actually use the correct (scientific) terms when using "mega" / "giga" / "tera".

 

Storage is marketed using base 10 (decimal). This system sees 1TB as 1000GB 

However, Windows sees storage using a base 2 system (binary). This means that 1TB = 1024GB. Which should actually be correctly called "mebi", "gibi" and "tebi" bytes instead, since they are based on binary - so actually the OS displays it incorrectly (or at least isn't really exact about it).

 

As Windows works using a base 2 system and manufacturers market drives using a base 10 system, a 1TB hard drive is going to show up as a 931GB drive. Though from what I worked out it should be closer to 908GB which means you're actually being sold a bit more than 1TB. Then you worked it out a little wrong, I'm afraid. 1 TB = 1,000,000,000,000 Bytes. 1,000,000,000,000 / 1024 /1024 / 1024 (B->kB, kB->MB, MB->GB) = 931,322...

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[nicholician]

An SSD is rated by the number of writes it can do. A certain recent game is known to completely fry an SSd if installed upon it. the anti piracy sioftware has the drive constantly writing and erasing. Thank you EA....

Thats a very dumb implementation. Does it still wear out my ssd like that even if I install the game to my hard drive?

[nicholician]

 

The way storage is marketed is very shady. Nothing shady about it. HDD manufacturers actually use the correct (scientific) terms when using "mega" / "giga" / "tera".

 

Storage is marketed using base 10 (decimal). This system sees 1TB as 1000GB 

However, Windows sees storage using a base 2 system (binary). This means that 1TB = 1024GB. Which should actually be correctly called "mebi", "gibi" and "tebi" bytes instead, since they are based on binary - so actually the OS displays it incorrectly (or at least isn't really exact about it).

 

As Windows works using a base 2 system and manufacturers market drives using a base 10 system, a 1TB hard drive is going to show up as a 931GB drive. Though from what I worked out it should be closer to 908GB which means you're actually being sold a bit more than 1TB. Then you worked it out a little wrong, I'm afraid. 1 TB = 1,000,000,000,000 Bytes. 1,000,000,000,000 / 1024 /1024 / 1024 (B->kB, kB->MB, MB->GB) = 931,322...

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That's not my problem though, or at least I don't think. I have 111GB available on the drive, or so windows says

[slightlyjaded]

Thats a very dumb implementation. Does it still wear out my ssd like that even if I install the game to my hard drive?

traditional platter drives don't have a problem with it. Apparently the way the DRM software works is by having an encrypted file that contains the game, and decrypting it as you play.