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Is FX really that much of a bottleneck ?

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The FX 8350 is good enough to drive a GTX 780ti to the max but not quite good enough to drive a dual card setup even though the two 7950s still were a bit faster than the 780ti.

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Is one thread not enough :/ 

 

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Again?

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Again?

 

So now we need to demonstrate the handbrake concept on two cars to show that these threads are pointless?

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Uhh

I remembered the @i_build_nanosuits saying that his 780 was bottlenecking his 8350

He says "780 was bottlenecking his 8350" ... That's a gold sample quote of the ages right there LOL.

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The FX 8350 is good enough to drive a GTX 780ti to the max but not quite good enough to drive a dual card setup even though the two 7950s still were a bit faster than the 780ti.

-snipperino-

With a Single card set up its a great CPU, but when you go into Multi GPU setups it becomes all sorts of nasty.

This a 9590 with 2x 7990's 

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This guy just doesn´t get it... again the same thread in the GPU sub forums...

 

Vote for close!

 

Oh and I/O don´t bother to quote or answer this, since I have you on ignore for months already...

 

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This guy just doesn´t get it... again the same thread in the GPU sub forums...

 

Vote for close!

 

Oh and I/O don´t bother to quote or answer this, since I have you on ignore for months already...

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TBH, the 8350 is long in the tooth. It's a decent chip, but it's stale. I'm more interested in newer tech from either vendor and as it stands, X99 is overkill for people who don't do workstation grade tasks and AMD is relying too much on old tech for as long as possible. 

 

 

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We really are tired of this. I love AMD and all, I have a Kaveri APU in my system. But right now, the 4690k is just a better cpu.

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With a Single card set up its a great CPU, but when you go into Multi GPU setups it becomes all sorts of nasty.

This a 9590 with 2x 7990's

I think any setups with Quad SLI/CFX GPUs become nasty no matter what Platform, Hardware configuration and CPUs you use. The scaling is just not there with 4 way and is often worse performance than with dual GPUs.

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TBH, the 8350 is long in the tooth. It's a decent chip, but it's stale. I'm more interested in newer tech from either vendor and as it stands, X99 is overkill for people who don't do workstation grade tasks and AMD is relying too much on old tech for as long as possible. 

I think the only thing that's stale and fail about the FX chips is their market image. I am no moron though as I don't see the value in the FX 9590 @ $250 bucks its an absolute fail but the 8370 and 8350 and especially the 8320 is a great value.

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I think any setups with Quad SLI/CFX GPUs become nasty no matter what Platform, Hardware configuration and CPUs you use. The scaling is just not there with 4 way and is often worse performance than with dual GPUs.

Lol what? 

Maybe worse than 3 in some cases, but rarely worse than dual unless it's plain not supported. 

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That awkward moment when I just ran valley on my GTX780 + 4690k setup and had higher minimums and pretty much the same average (within margin of error). 

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I think the only thing that's stale and fail about the FX chips is their market image. I am no moron though as I don't see the value in the FX 9590 @ $250 bucks its an absolute fail but the 8370 and 8350 and especially the 8320 is a great value.

 

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Lol what? 

Maybe worse than 3 in some cases, but rarely worse than dual unless it's plain not supported. 

If you look into it 4 way SLI/CFX is just fail. It honestly scales worse than 2 and 3 way in almost all games and aside from the terrible scaling the performance is often a bit worse than 2 way. 

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If you look into it 4 way SLI/CFX is just fail. It honestly scales worse than 2 and 3 way in almost all games and aside from the terrible scaling the performance is often a bit worse than 2 way. 

You are right about scaling being bad, although AMD is improving for 4 way xfire as of recent, but I've never heard of it performing worse than 2 way. Never. Worse than 3 way, yes.

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That awkward moment when I just ran valley on my GTX780 + 4690k setup and had higher minimums and pretty much the same average (within margin of error). 

 

Have a cookie cause you have an extra 3fps on the minimum LOL. You deserve it.

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Have a cookie cause you have an extra 3fps on the minimum LOL. You deserve it.

It's also a GTX780, not a 780Ti

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In fact, I'd go as far as saying 4 way crossfire is worth it pure performance wise in most games. Even Linus fails to realize how much this has improved

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You are right about scaling being bad, although AMD is improving for 4 way xfire as of recent, but I've never heard of it performing worse than 2 way. Never. Worse than 3 way, yes.

In fact, I'd go as far as saying 4 way crossfire is worth it pure performance wise in most games. Even Linus fails to realize how much this has improved

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nononono

I'm talking about CROSSFIRE. That's SLI. Most games with crossfire benefit with 1 card especially at 4k. A few don 't like Bioshock infinite

 

Wanna use newegg, fine. 

CROSS- FIRE - X

That's AMD not NVIDIA. 

 

Nice way to ccherry pick that' game is obviously not compatible. 

Most SLI setups benefit from 3 way, and a few even 4 way, though not a lot with nvidia, it's not something they push for or even suggest you do like AMD

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Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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