Is FX really that much of a bottleneck ?

[I/O]

It's also a GTX780, not a 780Ti

But from a value for money standpoint an FX 8320 and a couple HD 7950s is a great setup .

[FellTheSky]

i would say if the game is not much cpu intensive, its even. If the game has perfect multithread utilization, its even.

If non of the above happens, intel tends to overrun amd, sometimes doubles the performance.

watch this, its really short and it shows lots of games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QPpIqo-YY

[I/O]

i would say if the game is not much cpu intensive, its even. If the game has perfect multithread utilization, its even.

If non of the above happens, intel tends to overrun amd, sometimes doubles the performance.

watch this, its really short and it shows lots of games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QPpIqo-YY

Ya they are remarkably similar in most games except crappy coded ones like Arma 3 in where Intel has a clear advantage. As well Intel has a clear advantage when running high end CFX/SLI setups especially if you are running a 120Hz monitor Intel is an absolute must have then.

[I/O]

Most SLI setups benefit from 3 way, and a few even 4 way, though not a lot with nvidia, it's not something they push for or even suggest you do like AMD

AMD has the new bridge less "DMA Engine" CrossfireX system that enhances muti GPU scaling. Still I think the sweet spot is 3way but you know what Overkill is a wonderful thing.

[sugalumps]

But from a value for money standpoint an FX 8320 and a couple HD 7950s is a great setup .

 

But it's not great value, there is nothing great value about holding back two cards and not getting the most out of your set up.

 

A much better cpu and the best single card you can afford will be a better experience than a cheap grade cpu that cant push the two cards.

 

There is no great value in something under performing or holding things back, it's just cheaper and you are confusing the two.

[I/O]

But it's not great value, there is nothing great value about holding back two cards and not getting the most out of your set up.

 

A much better cpu and the best single card you can afford will be a better experience than a cheap grade cpu that cant push the two cards.

 

There is no great value in something under performing or holding things back, it's just cheaper and you are confusing the two.

Lets see here. ... Getting the same or better performance for less money is indeed a better value.

[79wjd]

But from a value for money standpoint an FX 8320 and a couple HD 7950s is a great setup .

A locked i5 will yield similar results at a similar price. 

[I/O]

A locked i5 will yield similar results at a similar price. 

You can't find a good CFX Intel Mobo for cheap. As far as a locked core i5 ... well in Canada the cheapest Core i5 is $200. Core i3 is a good value better than Core i5 for gaming.

[Syntaxvgm]

AMD has the new bridge less "DMA Engine" CrossfireX system that enhances muti GPU scaling. Still I think the sweet spot is 3way but you know what Overkill is a wonderful thing.

You are right. There are even considerations to allow for 5 way since the release of x99....at least rumor has it. Wish I had the money for that kind of overkill. 

[79wjd]

You can't find a good CFX Intel Mobo for cheap. As far as a locked core i5 ... well in Canada the cheapest Core i5 is $200. Core i3 is a good value better than Core i5 for gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.95 @ Vuugo) 

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Memory Express) 

Total: $289.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 21:08 EST-0500

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($158.98 @ DirectCanada) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($30.89 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($114.99 @ NCIX) 

Total: $304.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 21:09 EST-0500

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.95 @ Vuugo) 

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Memory Express) 

Total: $289.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 21:08 EST-0500

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($158.98 @ DirectCanada) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($30.89 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($114.99 @ NCIX) 

Total: $304.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 21:09 EST-0500

 

See the problem is you are moving the goals posts to support a skewed opinion.

 

Here a proper AMD budget mind range build = $260 which a mother board chipset that actually properly supports CFX/SLI unlike your cheapskate Intel build which runs @ x16 by x4.

http://secure.newegg.ca/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view

 

I would just go Core i3 for a budget build because then your opinion makes sense cause then the gaming value for money wipes the floor with both the AMD and Intel builds you made.

[79wjd]

See the problem is you are moving the goals posts to support a skewed opinion.

 

Here a proper AMD budget mind range build = $260 which a mother board chipset that actually properly supports CFX/SLI unlike your cheapskate Intel build which runs @ x16 by x4.

http://secure.newegg.ca/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view

 

I would just go Core i3 for a budget build because then your opinion makes sense cause then the gaming value for money wipes the floor with both the AMD and Intel builds you made.

My cheapskate build? x16 x4...Excuse me? I didn't know SLI ran on a x4.... *hint* both boards support SLI.....

[I/O]

My cheapskate build? x16 x4...Excuse me? I didn't know SLI ran on a x4.... *hint* both boards support SLI.....

PCI-E x16 by x4 for broken CFX/SLI and PCI-E x8 by x8 for proper working CFX/SLI and PCI-E x16 by x16 for optimal CFX/SLI. Motherboards with PCI-E 3.0 slots change this up a bit but the basic premise still stands.

[79wjd]

PCI-E x16 by x4 for broken CFX/SLI and PCI-E x8 by x8 for proper working CFX/SLI and PCI-E x16 by x16 for optimal CFX/SLI. Motherboards with PCI-E 3.0 slots change this up a bit but the basic premise still stands.

Both boards I linked support x8x8, hence how they have SLI support. 

[Suika]

You have ignored every post I've made on the subject and for what purpose? To prove that you're a fanboy?

This needs to end. The FX-8350 bottlenecks severely, the most notable personal experience was in nodded Skyrim, from a stable 60FPS to 15-25FPS in any CPU limited scenario.

[I/O]

You have ignored every post I've made on the subject and for what purpose? To prove that you're a fanboy?

This needs to end.

Fanboy WTF ? I am buying an Intel platform because I am running dual high end cards.

[XiaoPineApple]

i ono,
AMD chips always look shaky to me.
Minmum FPS is what matter more to me.
don't like fps drops.
all the review and comparison show 8320 always have low minmum when compare to 4670k.

[ExcitezR]

well this is on a 7970 and 280x with a 8350 seems about right to me

 

[Faceman]

Why are you guys using Unigine Heaven to test a bottleneck?  Its almost an entirely GPU bound scenario where the CPU isn't a limiting factor at all.

 

Use Cinebench's GPU test.

[sgloux3470]

nononono

I'm talking about CROSSFIRE. That's SLI. Most games with crossfire benefit with 1 card especially at 4k. A few don 't like Bioshock infinite

 

Wanna use newegg, fine. 

CROSS- FIRE - X

That's AMD not NVIDIA. 

 

Nice way to ccherry pick that' game is obviously not compatible. 

Most SLI setups benefit from 3 way, and a few even 4 way, though not a lot with nvidia, it's not something they push for or even suggest you do like AMD

The only game to benefit significantly was Crysis 3 with four cards.  Is an extra $1500 worth ~50 FPS when you're already reaching 100?  Not to me that's for sure.

 

The only people who should ever buy triple or four card set ups are people trying to set records with 3dmark.

[79wjd]

Why are you guys using Unigine Heaven to test a bottleneck?  Its almost an entirely GPU bound scenario where the CPU isn't a limiting factor at all.

 

Use Cinebench's GPU test.

Valley* and; the result is being bottlnecked by the 8350; my 780 (with a piss poor overclock -- evga sc acx) with a 4690k gets a higher score.

[Faceman]

Valley* and; the result is being bottlnecked by the 8350; my 780 (with a piss poor overclock -- evga sc acx) with a 4690k gets a higher score.

Ya, I saw, there are better applications to use to show a wider gap though.  Try Cinebench's GPU test, which actually stresses the CPU too, and you will notice a much larger gap.