Which will be better for gaming?

[UltraNeonGaming]

Hey guys I am building my first PC soon and I will be using it for mainly gaming and some video editing in AE. I want it too last a long time without getting too outdated.

That's why I was going to go the X99 route and get a 5820k with a 980 (Still deciding which, leaning towards the strix tho), But I saw the over clocks can't go very on most chips high because of 6 cores, So that's why I'm leaning towards a 4790k with a 980.

Since I will be using the Noctua NH-U12S on the 4790k and the NH-U14s on the 5820k, Which is better for playing games?? DirectX12 is coming soon and may take advantage of more than 6 cores.

Right now I know that games want cores with fast clock speeds, so do you think the 5820k will be slower than the 4790k in games?? 

Thanks for the help!

 

EDIT: Also money and "Bang for the buck" doesn't matter, I just want the best for gaming and it too be future proof

[Ahaber]

I don't think that you will see much difference between the 2 do go for the 5820k

[the jolly roger]

they will be equally as fast in games, but in video editing the 6 core pulls out a big advantage over the quad core.

[UltraNeonGaming]

But people have been reporting worse fps in games with the 5820k

I think that's because of it's lower clockspeed, even when overclocked

[UltraNeonGaming]

Also how do you guys think the 5820k will overclock to maybe 4.5ish GHZ on the Noctua NH-U14s, if I get a decent chip

[Aniallation]

Hey guys I am building my first PC soon and I will be using it for mainly gaming and some video editing in AE. I want it too last a long time without getting too outdated.

That's why I was going to go the X99 route and get a 5820k with a 980 (Still deciding which, leaning towards the strix tho), But I saw the over clocks can't go very on most chips high because of 6 cores, So that's why I'm leaning towards a 4790k with a 980.

Since I will be using the Noctua NH-U12S on the 4790k and the NH-U14s on the 5820k, Which is better for playing games?? DirectX12 is coming soon and may take advantage of more than 6 cores.

Since you're only doing some video editing and mainly gaming definitely grab the 4790K and the U14S. Save the money you'll have to also spend for an X99 mobo and DDR4 memory and put that towards something more useful. Also I'd grab two Gigabyte 970s over a Strix 980 any day.

[UltraNeonGaming]

Also I am scared of water cooling even if it's a AIO, I just don't want my first pc to die of a horrible death, if the pc is on and it leaks

[WoodenMarker]

No such thing as future proof. You're better off just spending what you need and saving any extra money for more frequent upgrades 

The 5820k also isn't much if any as an upgrade from the 4790k for gaming. 

[Aniallation]

heck, the i7 920 is still doing pretty well its from like 2008

This I can agree on. I only have mine at 3.5GHz (many people are stable at >4GHz) and it's still whooping ass

[UltraNeonGaming]

Since you're only doing some video editing and mainly gaming definitely grab the 4790K and the U14S. Save the money you'll have to also spend for an X99 mobo and DDR4 memory and put that towards something more useful. Also I'd grab two Gigabyte 970s over a Strix 980 any day.

 

Il have to get the U12s because the 14 will interfere with my vengeance pro

[UltraNeonGaming]

I know the 5820k isn't worth that extra money, But I want to know will it perform WORSE in games than the 4790k because of it's much lower clock speed?

[Enderman]

The 5820k performs worse than the 4790k in <8 threaded programs, including most games.

So really you would be spending more money for x99 for a worse gaming experience and just a few minutes faster rendering. Not worth it IMO

 

The money you save from x99 could go to more important pc components than 4 threads, such as a larger SSD, or better cooler, etc...

[UltraNeonGaming]

The 5820k performs worse than the 4790k in <8 threaded programs, including most games.

So really you would be spending more money for x99 for a worse gaming experience and just a few minutes faster rendering. Not worth it IMO

 

The money you save from x99 could go to more important pc components than 4 threads, such as a larger SSD, or better cooler, etc...

 

But DirectX12 is just around the corner and it takes advantage of more than 4 cores

[Guest]

The difference in gaming performance is marginal. 

[Aniallation]

I know the 5820k isn't worth that extra money, But I want to know will it perform WORSE in games than the 4790k because of it's much lower clock speed?

Long story short, in things that use 8 threads or less, it will perform identical to a 4790K at the same clock speeds.

 

Use your brain for the rest.

[Rolling Potatoe]

The 200 mhz you might go higher with the quadcore wont make a difference,

you are talking about high end overclocked cpus when most games only require meh cpus anyway.

 

The 5820k would have roughly 50% more performance in reserve, if youre thinking about keeping your cpu for 5-6 years

that pay off in the end.

 

Why would you use a weaker cooler for the 4790k btw? Its a nice cooler but youll be leaving a few 100 mhz you could have gotten with a dual tower or watercooler.

[UltraNeonGaming]

Long story short, in things that use 8 threads or less, it will perform identical to a 4790K at the same clock speeds.

 

Use your brain for the rest.

 

So how about 4790k with dual 970's? But which ones I want them to be quiet

[Enderman]

But DirectX12 is just around the corner and it takes advantage of more than 4 cores

what does directx12 have to do with this?

if the games dont use more than 8 cores, then it doesnt matter what directx it is using...

[UltraNeonGaming]

Il have to get the U12s because the 14 will interfere with my vengeance pro

 

The 200 mhz you might go higher with the quadcore wont make a difference,

you are talking about high end overclocked cpus when most games only require meh cpus anyway.

 

The 5820k would have roughly 50% more performance in reserve, if youre thinking about keeping your cpu for 5-6 years

that pay off in the end.

 

Why would you use a weaker cooler for the 4790k btw? Its a nice cooler but youll be leaving a few 100 mhz you could have gotten with a dual tower or watercooler.

[Enderman]

So how about 4790k with dual 970's? But which ones I want them to be quiet

for quiet get the ASUS strix or MSI

[UltraNeonGaming]

what does directx12 have to do with this?

if the games dont use more than 8 cores, then it doesnt matter what directx it is using...

 

It can better take advantage of them

[WoodenMarker]

Il have to get the U12s because the 14 will interfere with my vengeance pro

The u14s is similar to the u12s in that it has full ram compatibility.

[UltraNeonGaming]

for quiet get the ASUS strix or MSI

 

I heard the STRIX has horrible overclocking because of just 1-8pin power connector? Do you think so?

[Aniallation]

So how about 4790k with dual 970's? But which ones I want them to be quiet

That'd be a better idea for gaming.

 

For 970s hands down get Gigabyte. Strix and MSI constantly advertise about the silent idle nonsense but in reality when it's in your case you won't even hear a reference 290X. The Gigabyte 970s have cherry picked GPU chips and PCBs with better VRM and power phase design then the other 970s, allowing for higher yet more stable and reliable overclocks.

[Enderman]

It can better take advantage of them

its not really going to be an improvement because i have yet to see a game that puts all your 8 cores to 100%