Jump to content

WASD vs ESDF

Jaybird
By Jaybird
in Peripherals
 Share

Posted

why do we use "WASD" instead of "ESDF"? by using "ESDF" you recieve an extra 3 keys to use. I think im going to start using this instead.

tab ctrl and shift nuf said

A nerd is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology. A geek is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology, and likes it!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-285344
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

I just tried this out but my pinky almost always hits the windows key instead of Ctrl. And to the person who voted in the poll and answered arrow keys your still playing Doom? Don't get me wrong I enjoy myself some nightmare Doom as well but I at least use the Doomsday engine which allows for modern control schemes.

Super OP AF Killer Retro Emulation PC 360 No Scope 420 Blaze It (Sorry I Couldn't Help It) Seriously Though This PC Is Overkill And Before You Ask It Does Play Crysis 1024x768 60 FPS

Intel Core Duo 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz // ASUS P5N-D // Zalman CNPS9500A Air Cooler // 4GB G.Skill @ 400MHz 5 5 5 31 23 // 2 Way SLI GeForce 9800 GTX+ // 32" SONY WEGA CRT TV 480i // Corsair TX750 // Seagate 3TB // Win XP 32Bit // Sony DVD RW // ANTEC Full Tower // Steel Series H Wireless // Logitech K520 Wireless Keyboard // Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse // Logitech G27 Racing Wheel // Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS // HORI Fight Stick Mini // 8Bitdo NES30 Pro / FC30 Pro / SNES30 / SFC30 Bluetooth Controllers

Future Upgrades The New 8Bitdo Wireless SNES Controller With Analog Sticks / 8Bitdo Bluetooth Arcade Fight Stick / Proper HD I Know This Machine Does Not Support 3 TB / Icy Dock 5.25 4 Bay HD Hot Swap Bay For More Seamless Multi Booting Want To Run At Least Win 95, Win XP, Win 7 

i7 3770k @ 4.5Ghz // ASUS Maximus V Formula // CM Hyper 212 EVO // 16GB G.Skill Sniper @ 2133MHz 9 11 10 28 // Crossfire Sapphire 7970 // 42" 4K 60Hz FreeSync WasabiMango IPS // Corsair AX860 // Samsung 1TB 840EVO // Seagate 3TB // Seagate Barracuda 160GB sata II // OCZ Vertex 3 90GB sata III // Win 10 64Bit // ASUS DVD RW // 2 Corsair AF 120 // 2 Corsair SP 120 // 2 xigmatek 120 // Corsair 760t white flavor // NZXT HUE+ RGB Controller // Sennheiser G4me Zero // Steel Series H // Corsair M95 // Corsair K95 // 3 Xbox 360 Controllers // Dolphin Bar // Wii U Mote // Leap Motion Plus // Logitech G27 Racing Wheel // Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS // HORI Fight Stick Mini // 8Bitdo NES30 Pro / FC30 Pro / SNES30 / SFC30 Bluetooth Controllers

Future Upgrades 1080Ti or Vega RX64 http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/16900-nothing-special/

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-285407
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

tab ctrl and shift nuf said

No, not "nuff" said.

What do you mean bij this? when I play in esdf-mode, I can easily reach tab ctrl and shift... In esdf mode, you get all the keys you get from wasd + extra column of keys to the right + q + w + a.

Proud to be from Belgium.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-285605
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

No, not "nuff" said.

What do you mean bij this? when I play in esdf-mode, I can easily reach tab ctrl and shift... In esdf mode, you get all the keys you get from wasd + extra column of keys to the right + q + w + a.

but u have to stretch more and wel i also use gkeys but remaping keys is a pain i dont wana run threw for every game i useualy play defalt exept reloadd is t and voice chat is t

 

but my pointer streches more than ring and pinki so the 67yuhjknm, keys i can reach i cannot reatch tilda with ring at esdf

A nerd is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology. A geek is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology, and likes it!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-285636
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

but u have to stretch more and wel i also use gkeys but remaping keys is a pain i dont wana run threw for every game i useualy play defalt exept reloadd is t and voice chat is t

 

but my pointer streches more than ring and pinki so the 67yuhjknm, keys i can reach i cannot reatch tilda with ring at esdf

 

I don't have that problem, the only "symbol" key that is on the left of an azerty keyboard is <\>, all the rest of the symbols are positioned right.

Proud to be from Belgium.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-285651
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

WASD, it just seems the most comfortable for me because i can reach shift etc easily

PC Builder, Engineer... BACON    Project Cobalt: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/38058-project-cobalt-copper-piping-laser-etching-and-more/#entry489258

| NZXT Switch 810 | i5-3570k | gigabyte UD-5H | Corsair Vengeance 8gb ram | GTX 670 | 2x 60gb intel 330 series ssd's in raid 0 | 1tb seagate barracuda hdd | Corsair tx750m | XSPC razor GPU and CPU waterblocks | XSPC d5 vario pump | Thermochill Pa140.3 | phoyba 280mm radiator | Chromed Copper tubing |

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-285654
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

No, WASD is already more difficult on the german layout because the left shift key is shorter than on most other layouts, moving even further to the right would be really awkward. I really like having wider keys for the pinky because it is not as accurate as the other fingers imo.

AMD FX8320 @3.5ghz |  Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3  |  Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mhz  |  Hyper 412s  |  Gigabyte windforceR9 290  |  BeQuiet! 630w  |  Asus Xonar DGX  |  CoolerMast HAF 912+  |  Samsung 840 120gb


2 WD red 1tb RAID0  |  WD green 2tb(external, backup)  |  Asus VG278He  |  LG Flatron E2240  |  CMstorm Quickfire TK MXbrown  |  Sharkoon Fireglider  |  Audio Technica ATH700X


#KILLEDMYWIFE

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-287125
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

BTW could you add numberpad to the poll? I know some left handed gamers that use the numberpad with their right hand and the mouse with their left ;)

AMD FX8320 @3.5ghz |  Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3  |  Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mhz  |  Hyper 412s  |  Gigabyte windforceR9 290  |  BeQuiet! 630w  |  Asus Xonar DGX  |  CoolerMast HAF 912+  |  Samsung 840 120gb


2 WD red 1tb RAID0  |  WD green 2tb(external, backup)  |  Asus VG278He  |  LG Flatron E2240  |  CMstorm Quickfire TK MXbrown  |  Sharkoon Fireglider  |  Audio Technica ATH700X


#KILLEDMYWIFE

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-287326
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Mostly WASD, but I did experiment with ESDF on GW2, and it felt a little weird at first. I haven't had much time to get used to it.

Interested in Linux, SteamOS and Open-source applications? Go here

Gaming Rig - CPU: i5 3570k @ Stock | GPU: EVGA Geforce 560Ti 448 Core Classified Ultra | RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB DDR3 1600 | SSD: Crucial M4 128GB | HDD: 3TB Seagate Barracuda, 1TB WD Caviar Black, 1TB Seagate Barracuda | Case: Antec Lanboy Air | KB: Corsair Vengeance K70 Cherry MX Blue | Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M95 | Headset: Steelseries Siberia V2

 

 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-287414
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Used to WASD, too old to learn new tricks.

- Silverstone TJ08B-E - Gigabyte Z87M-D3H - i7 4770k @ 4.0GHZ 1.2v - 16gb Kingston HyperX Black 1600 - Gigabyte GTX 770 OC 4GB -


- Silverstone Fortress FT02 - MSI Z77 Mpower - i5 3570k @ 4.0GHZ 1.09v - 8gb Mushkin Blackline 1600 - MSI GTX 670 PE -


- Lenovo T430 (1600x900) - i5 3210m - 8GB DDR3 1333 - nVidia NVS5400M - 256GB mSATA OS - 320GB HDD-

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-287570
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

BTW could you add numberpad to the poll? I know some left handed gamers that use the numberpad with their right hand and the mouse with their left ;)

Since the mods merged my topic with the one of an passive-active member (this one), I cant actually do anything no more ...

Proud to be from Belgium.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-288094
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

mostly racing games, 

Because I have the feeling I can reach more keys and the little dot on the F feels naturally :)

Gotta use a anolog controller for racing games.

Super OP AF Killer Retro Emulation PC 360 No Scope 420 Blaze It (Sorry I Couldn't Help It) Seriously Though This PC Is Overkill And Before You Ask It Does Play Crysis 1024x768 60 FPS

Intel Core Duo 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz // ASUS P5N-D // Zalman CNPS9500A Air Cooler // 4GB G.Skill @ 400MHz 5 5 5 31 23 // 2 Way SLI GeForce 9800 GTX+ // 32" SONY WEGA CRT TV 480i // Corsair TX750 // Seagate 3TB // Win XP 32Bit // Sony DVD RW // ANTEC Full Tower // Steel Series H Wireless // Logitech K520 Wireless Keyboard // Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse // Logitech G27 Racing Wheel // Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS // HORI Fight Stick Mini // 8Bitdo NES30 Pro / FC30 Pro / SNES30 / SFC30 Bluetooth Controllers

Future Upgrades The New 8Bitdo Wireless SNES Controller With Analog Sticks / 8Bitdo Bluetooth Arcade Fight Stick / Proper HD I Know This Machine Does Not Support 3 TB / Icy Dock 5.25 4 Bay HD Hot Swap Bay For More Seamless Multi Booting Want To Run At Least Win 95, Win XP, Win 7 

i7 3770k @ 4.5Ghz // ASUS Maximus V Formula // CM Hyper 212 EVO // 16GB G.Skill Sniper @ 2133MHz 9 11 10 28 // Crossfire Sapphire 7970 // 42" 4K 60Hz FreeSync WasabiMango IPS // Corsair AX860 // Samsung 1TB 840EVO // Seagate 3TB // Seagate Barracuda 160GB sata II // OCZ Vertex 3 90GB sata III // Win 10 64Bit // ASUS DVD RW // 2 Corsair AF 120 // 2 Corsair SP 120 // 2 xigmatek 120 // Corsair 760t white flavor // NZXT HUE+ RGB Controller // Sennheiser G4me Zero // Steel Series H // Corsair M95 // Corsair K95 // 3 Xbox 360 Controllers // Dolphin Bar // Wii U Mote // Leap Motion Plus // Logitech G27 Racing Wheel // Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS // HORI Fight Stick Mini // 8Bitdo NES30 Pro / FC30 Pro / SNES30 / SFC30 Bluetooth Controllers

Future Upgrades 1080Ti or Vega RX64 http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/16900-nothing-special/

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-291605
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

If I want to use a controller, I can just play on the ps3 or xbox :) PC is meant to be played with a mous & keyboard :-)

Not for racing games you are hindering yourself without an anolog stick.

Super OP AF Killer Retro Emulation PC 360 No Scope 420 Blaze It (Sorry I Couldn't Help It) Seriously Though This PC Is Overkill And Before You Ask It Does Play Crysis 1024x768 60 FPS

Intel Core Duo 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz // ASUS P5N-D // Zalman CNPS9500A Air Cooler // 4GB G.Skill @ 400MHz 5 5 5 31 23 // 2 Way SLI GeForce 9800 GTX+ // 32" SONY WEGA CRT TV 480i // Corsair TX750 // Seagate 3TB // Win XP 32Bit // Sony DVD RW // ANTEC Full Tower // Steel Series H Wireless // Logitech K520 Wireless Keyboard // Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse // Logitech G27 Racing Wheel // Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS // HORI Fight Stick Mini // 8Bitdo NES30 Pro / FC30 Pro / SNES30 / SFC30 Bluetooth Controllers

Future Upgrades The New 8Bitdo Wireless SNES Controller With Analog Sticks / 8Bitdo Bluetooth Arcade Fight Stick / Proper HD I Know This Machine Does Not Support 3 TB / Icy Dock 5.25 4 Bay HD Hot Swap Bay For More Seamless Multi Booting Want To Run At Least Win 95, Win XP, Win 7 

i7 3770k @ 4.5Ghz // ASUS Maximus V Formula // CM Hyper 212 EVO // 16GB G.Skill Sniper @ 2133MHz 9 11 10 28 // Crossfire Sapphire 7970 // 42" 4K 60Hz FreeSync WasabiMango IPS // Corsair AX860 // Samsung 1TB 840EVO // Seagate 3TB // Seagate Barracuda 160GB sata II // OCZ Vertex 3 90GB sata III // Win 10 64Bit // ASUS DVD RW // 2 Corsair AF 120 // 2 Corsair SP 120 // 2 xigmatek 120 // Corsair 760t white flavor // NZXT HUE+ RGB Controller // Sennheiser G4me Zero // Steel Series H // Corsair M95 // Corsair K95 // 3 Xbox 360 Controllers // Dolphin Bar // Wii U Mote // Leap Motion Plus // Logitech G27 Racing Wheel // Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS // HORI Fight Stick Mini // 8Bitdo NES30 Pro / FC30 Pro / SNES30 / SFC30 Bluetooth Controllers

Future Upgrades 1080Ti or Vega RX64 http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/16900-nothing-special/

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-296606
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

TAB, Shift, Alt

 

All easier.

Akula  | Dimastech Test Bench | Watercooled | Tri GTX 680's | Build of the Week

Mercury | Caselabs Mercury S3 | Watercooled | GTX Titan | Build of the Week

Armada | Define R4 Titanium | Watercooled | EK Waterblocks | Newest Buildlog

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-296611
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

If I want to use a controller, I can just play on the ps3 or xbox :) PC is meant to be played with a mous & keyboard :-)

then what the hell did i buy a namstro pc controller or joystick for they have been used for most old clasic pc games

A nerd is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology. A geek is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology, and likes it!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-304558
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

If I want to use a controller, I can just play on the ps3 or xbox :) PC is meant to be played with a mous & keyboard :-)

and they make steering wheels for pc

A nerd is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology. A geek is someone whose life revolves around computers and technology, and likes it!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/22305-wasd-vs-esdf/page/3/#findComment-304561
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing Peripherals

×