fx 8320

[holy-sock]

What gpu does it take to make the fx 8320 become a bottleneck?

[Admiaczking]

295X2, or dual 780 Ti's/290X's

[Interfectorem]

A significant bottleneck? Probably an SLI or X-Fire config. But I don't think there's any solid concrete proof that the FX-8320 bottlenecks a single high-end card dramtically. If it does, it will probably be 5-10 FPS, but I doubt it.

[nokturrduk84]

GTX 660 & above

[holy-sock]

Thats a huge variety one says 660 and another says 295x2

[Interfectorem]

GTX 660 & above

I have to call complete bullshit on that.

[ForsakenLive]

I think you pretty much have to go over 2x GTX 780 in SLI to start experiencing bottlenecks on a overclocked FX 8320, all benchmarks I saw with dual 7970 (R9 280X) and even the mighty R9 295X have only 1-2 frames less than the same gpus with 4770Ks on them.

At stock, there will be noticeable less frames, but once it is on 4ghz and up, there shouldn't be any problem, even using a GTX 780ti on the thing it shouldn't hold you back.

 

GTX 660 & above

What? Want me to link you older benchmarks where the FX 8320 totally head to head with the 3770K on multiple GPUs like the 7970??? That's BS.

[Interfectorem]

I think you pretty much have to go over 2x GTX 780 in SLI to start experiencing bottlenecks on a overclocked FX 8320, all benchmarks I saw with dual 7970 (R9 280X) and even the mighty R9 295X have only 1-2 frames less than the same gpus with 4770Ks on them.

At stock, there will be noticeable less frames, but once it is on 4ghz and up, there shouldn't be any problem, even using a GTX 780ti on the thing it shouldn't hold you back.

 

What? Want me to link you older benchmarks where the FX 8320 totally head to head with the 3770K on multiple GPUs like the 7970??? That's BS.

Take this man's advice, I like it. And yea, I don't know what kind of drugs @nokturrduk84 is on to claim that an 8320 will bottleneck a GTX 660.

[nokturrduk84]

I think you pretty much have to go over 2x GTX 780 in SLI to start experiencing bottlenecks on a overclocked FX 8320, all benchmarks I saw with dual 7970 (R9 280X) and even the mighty R9 295X have only 1-2 frames less than the same gpus with 4770Ks on them.

At stock, there will be noticeable less frames, but once it is on 4ghz and up, there shouldn't be any problem, even using a GTX 780ti on the thing it shouldn't hold you back.

 

What? Want me to link you older benchmarks where the FX 8320 totally head to head with the 3770K on multiple GPUs like the 7970??? That's BS.

Oh please, just stop.

[nokturrduk84]

I have to call complete bullshit on that.

As we see here FX-8320 is oc'ed to 4.7GHz paired with GTX 660ti & getting P26673 in 3DMark Vantage.

Now look at this one: i7 3770 oc'ed to 4.3GHz paired with GTX 660 (note it's GTX 660, even slower than GTX 660ti) & it got P28380 in 3DMark Vantage. After this, how some of you say that FX won't bottleneck cards like GTX 970 or GTX 780. Hell, it will be huge bottleneck!

[ForsakenLive]

The FX 8350 is nothing but a FX 8320 with higher clockspeed, there is not difference in the rest of the spec. OC that FX 8320, even with a 212 EVO you should get a decent increase.

 

Older Tom's Hardware test with multiple GPUs.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scaling-bottleneck,3471.html

 

Updated Anandtech CPU review with several CPU configs, as you can see, the FX 8350 is right there with the 4770K in multi-GPU configs:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6985/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-at-1440p-adding-in-haswell-/5

[Interfectorem]

As we see here FX-8320 is oc'ed to 4.7GHz paired with GTX 660ti & getting P26673 in 3DMark Vantage.

Now look at this one: i7 3770 oc'ed to 4.3GHz paired with GTX 660 (note it's GTX 660, even slower than GTX 660ti) & it got P28380 in 3DMark Vantage. After this, how some of you say that FX won't bottleneck cards like GTX 970 or GTX 780. Hell, it will be huge bottleneck!

Please link me to the source of these pictures.(Unless these are your pictures. In that case, there's  possibilities on how this could've been rigged or terribly flawed)

[ForsakenLive]

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Honestly that canned benchmark only tells me there are bigger numbers with more expensive stuff. You have to understand those scores are the overall system ones, and there is no optimization limits (every single mhz counts there), so obviously the 660 will be better with a different CPU.

Now, look at real gaming benchmarks, and every post made about this on LTT and OC3D forums, where people are linking actual gaming benchmarks. Or look at the links I just provided.

What is "bottleneck" when we talk about gaming situations?  1. The CPU can keep up with the game, even at the highest settings. 2. The CPU can provide enough instructions to the GPUs while still being able to do his job (feed the cards, basically). With this CPU there is no bottlenecks when going big with the GPUs.

[nokturrduk84]

Please link me to the source of these pictures.(Unless these are your pictures.)

http://www.overclockers.ge/index.php?/topic/471-amd-vs-intel/page-11#entry785812

Other forum members did these benchmarks.

[nokturrduk84]

OP, I told my opinion & showed you with benchmarks how FX handles GTX 660. It's up to you which you gonna listen. Good luck

[i_build_nanosuits]

GTX 770 or radeon R9 280X is as high as you want to go with an FX for 1080P gaming...if you play at higher resolution AKA 1440P then you can go all the way to GTX 980 SLI as those will be punished at that resolution making the CPU power irrelevant.

If you want 60FPS at 1080P get an FX-8320, clock it to 4.4GHZ or better and pair it with a radeon R9 280X and you're there in most games...for a good price/performance ratio.

But honestly i'd highly suggest a core i5-4460 witt a cheap H81 motherboard it cost about the same as you dont need an aftermarket CPU cooler.

[D00M_GaMeR]

If you use i3 4330 with a GTX 770 SLi or GTX 780 SLi...you will get better frame rate then FX 8320. I don`t know whay, but all i know about AMD FX series is that CORE per CORE performance is under intel CPU`s. i5 2500 for example still get higher score in games than FX 8350. Is somthing very wrong here....

[azreal99]

i5s are good for gaming, but I have a 9370 (just a glorified 8320 anyway) rig and it out-performs my i5 in the same games with the same set ups, with a couple of exceptions. The 9370 does not "bottleneck" my 290s, so you should be fine with most cards in most games. And once you're out of games and into productivity, the AMD surpasses the i5 by some distance.

 

What will matter is if you are playing a very CPU-intensive game, in which case my i7 rips the AMDs to bits - but in most games i actually play the AMDs can keep reasonable pace with the i7 with the same GPU(s). 

 

Personally, I'd get an AMD unless you've got the cash for an i7, and I'd rather get an AMD and a better GPU than an i7 and a lesser GPU if I were dealing with a budget.

 

It's a well-covered debate (more like argument unfortunately) between people who like AMD vs Intel, but I've got various flavours of both and when I rebuilt my own gaming rig recently I stuck an AMD in it because it does everything I need it to. I simply didn't need to spend the money on an i7.

 

Unless you are running a very demanding rig, an AMD will do you fine (even the FX6300, which I also have, will live with any upper mid-range card you throw at it).

 

All that matters is what you need the system to run and where you want to spend your money. Don't get caught up in the fanboy stuff from either "side", nor in the artificial benchmarking. Just look at the in-game performance in the games you play. There are hundreds of reviews out there.

[azreal99]

 

 

Woops, hit quote rather than edit.

 

Er.....hamsters.

[thebennyboy]

As we see here FX-8320 is oc'ed to 4.7GHz paired with GTX 660ti & getting P26673 in 3DMark Vantage.

Now look at this one: i7 3770 oc'ed to 4.3GHz paired with GTX 660 (note it's GTX 660, even slower than GTX 660ti) & it got P28380 in 3DMark Vantage. After this, how some of you say that FX won't bottleneck cards like GTX 970 or GTX 780. Hell, it will be huge bottleneck!

 

I couldn't help but notice the such BLATANT bullcrap. 

 

 

Is that a higher default clock on the intel rig? and a different driver version? You cherry picked a good driver for the Intel rig? You are just talking out of your backside.

[nokturrduk84]

I couldn't help but notice the such BLATANT bullcrap. 

 

 

Is that a higher default clock on the intel rig? and a different driver version? You cherry picked a good driver for the Intel rig? You are just talking out of your backside.

So what you wanna say with that? GTX 660ti has newer version of driver in this case (334.89) comparing to GTX 660, & instead of advantage over 660, it still scored pretty bad, because it's bottlnecked by CPU.

[holy-sock]

I swear i did not make this topic to unleash a fanboy battle but this is exciting!!

[vern021]

I swear i did not make this topic to unleash a fanboy battle but this is exciting!!

You might want to join here in the discussion. It's very interesting. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/222019-fx-8320-w-gtx970-2-way-sli-will-there-be-bottlenecks/

[Linus_torvalds]

I couldn't help but notice the such BLATANT bullcrap. 

 

 

Is that a higher default clock on the intel rig? and a different driver version? You cherry picked a good driver for the Intel rig? You are just talking out of your backside.

intel rig is mine. and it was benched in 21.11.2013 at that time as i remember 331.82 was newest driver and FX rigs result is much newer 

i was searching for 15 minutes and i found that amd rig (second post)  http://www.overclockers.ge/index.php?/topic/24966-3dmark-vantage-ranking/page-23

it was benched in 20 02 2014 so...

did you notice that on AMD rig there is GTX 660 ti with higher clocks then my GTX non ti 660

[Faa]

I couldn't help but notice the such BLATANT bullcrap. 

Is that a higher default clock on the intel rig? and a different driver version? You cherry picked a good driver for the Intel rig? You are just talking out of your backside.

Learn to count; On Intel there was a 100MHz OC and on AMD 133MHz and the Intel was running a 660 non Ti where as the AMD was running a 660Ti.