Starting water cooling loop?

[Totally-A-Hero]

So I want to get into water cooling and was wondering what a basic loop with cou+ 1 high end gpu would cost. Thanks, im not looking for anything crazy. Just quiet cool and pretty.

[Deletive]

It would probably run you about 300-400$ 

edit: Something like this: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18964/ex-wat-249/EK_L240_Complete_Dual_120mm_Liquid_Cooling_Kit_EK-KIT_L240.html?tl=g30c321#blank

plus your respective gpu block and a few spare compression fittings and some tubing

[Totally-A-Hero]

It would probably run you about 300-400$ 

Without gpu water block? ALso please give suggestions on what to get, maybe there is a kit?

[Deletive]

Without gpu water block? ALso please give suggestions on what to get, maybe there is a kit?

edited my original post. you replied quickly well if just CPU something like that ekwb kit ( http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18964/ex-wat-249/EK_L240_Complete_Dual_120mm_Liquid_Cooling_Kit_EK-KIT_L240.html?tl=g30c321#blank ) could do

[Maxwit44]

This is cut and paste from another thread asking pretty much the same question. I couldn't be bothered retyping it.

 

Lets use frozen Cup's site

 

EK CPU block - EK supremacy elite = 127 USD

EK VGA Block - EK 780dcu2 = $125 USD

EK D5 Pump Vario = $115-120 USD

EK Cool Stream 240 Rad = $60 USD

EK Cool Stream 360 Rad = $76 USD

EK Tube Res = $50 - 130

Primochill PETG 4 x 36 inch clear 1/2 od tube = $11 usd

Primochill compatible fittings for the tube = $7 USD ea.

 

Cheapest will be around the $660 USD Mark

Most expensive options, around the $830 USD Mark.

 

Please note excludes shipping

[Faceman]

You could always do an AIO for each.  Only costs ~$175, very quiet, and temperatures wont exceed 50C on either components with fans at 60%.

[Totally-A-Hero]

You could always do an AIO for each.  Only costs ~$175, very quiet, and temperatures wont exceed 50C on either components with fans at 60%.

Ok so with a G10? And what H80i's? or kraken x41's?

[Enderman]

At least $500, usually $600+ for a GPU+CPU loop

[Faceman]

Ok so with a G10? And what H80i's? or kraken x41's?

Cooler Master Seidon 240M - $60 for CPU *This might have gone up in price recently due to the popularity of it.

 

G10($25-$30) + H55($50) or X31($70) + Heat Sinks($10-$30 Depending how crazy you want to go) + Sekisui Thermal Tape($3) + Copper Shim($3)* Shim might not be necessary depending on your model of card.

 

Optional Products:

VGA to PWM Fan Adapter ($5)

Thermal Paste($6-$12)

[Totally-A-Hero]

Cooler Master Seidon 240M - $60 for CPU *This might have gone up in price recently due to the popularity of it.

 

G10($25-$30) + H55($50) or X31($70) + Heat Sinks($10-$30) + Sekisui Thermal Tape($3) + Copper Shim($3)* Shim might not be necessary depending on your model of card.

 

Optional Products:

VGA to PWM Fan Adapter ($5)

Thermal Paste($6-$12)

Ok so What is the heat sinks and thermal tape for adn the copper shim?

[Faceman]

Ok so What is the heat sinks and thermal tape for adn the copper shim?

What model of GPU are you doing this to?

[Totally-A-Hero]

What model of GPU are you doing this to?

idk a 290 or 980 something top teir

[Totally-A-Hero]

Oh ya and does doing this stuff to a GPU void warranty?

[Faceman]

idk a 290 or 980 something top teir

Ok, well hard to say for sure if some of the components will be necessary.

 

The Copper Shim is for when your GPU has a mid-plate that passively cools the VRAM and VRMs.  In order for the AIO to make proper contact, you need a copper shim with thermal paste on both sides.

 

The Heatsinks are for your VRMs and VRAM.  Depending which model of card, you will need either more or less.  The thermal tape that comes pre-applied to the heatsinks is garbage and needs to be replaced with the Sekisui stuff.  It has much better heat transfer, and much better adhesion without being permanent.  You DO NOT want to use thermal adhesive glue, that stuff is permanent and if a problem arose, or you wanted to sell your card, you would be selling it as is, and your warranty would most likely be void.  Copper Heat Sinks are for the VRAM, although not necessary because the VRAM doesn't get very hot, and is already being cooled by the mid-plate as seen with my 780.  The VRMs is what you need to worry about, and as long as you don't run a program like Furmark/Kombustor, you would be safe without adding Aluminum Heatsinks to the VRMs, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

 

The VGA to 4pin PWM adapter is nice because it frees up a motherboard fan header.  You will plug in the 92mm fan that comes with the G10 into your video card, and control the speed of the G10's fan with MSI Afterburner, you will want to set it to a constant 80-100%.  Don't put it on a fan curve because this fan is for the VRMs, not the core.

 

It won't void your warranty as long as you do everything properly, and safely.  You should keep the stock cooler, screws, and everything that comes with your GPU so that you can put it back together if you need to.  Another reason why you don't want to use thermal glue/paste/adhesive to apply the heatsinks.  They are close to permanent and will leave residue, so if you had to try and RMA the card, those marks will show up if you were somehow able to remove the heat sinks.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok so since it voids the warranty should i just buy a mining 290 for cheap? (reference) Those warranty's are already non transferable anyway.

 

@Faceman

[Faceman]

Ok so since it voids the warranty should i just buy a mining 290 for cheap? (reference) Those warranty's are already non transferable anyway.

 

@Faceman

It won't void your warranty as long as you follow the instructions, and make sure that you can get the card back to factory conditions.

[Totally-A-Hero]

It won't void your warranty as long as you follow the instructions, and make sure that you can get the card back to factory conditions.

SO i should buy a brand new 290?

 

@Faceman

[Faceman]

SO i should buy a brand new 290?

I can't and wont tell you what to do because you never have listed to me when I recommended parts for you when you first started your build, and you now have an i7 + a used 7870 when you could have had an i5 + R9 290.  I'm just showing you that there is a very cheap alternative to a full custom loop that gives great temperatures and low noise.

 

You will have to figure out what it is that you want, and what you can afford.  Also, with the rumored release of the brand new 800/900 series cards, I would wait for those cards to come out.  If you do decide to buy used, buy EVGA because their warranties transfer.  When the new cards hit the stores, there will be an influx of old GPUs onto eBay, Craigslist, etc...  Or maybe you will want to buy one of the brand new cards.

[Totally-A-Hero]

I can't and wont tell you what to do because you never have listed to me when I recommended parts for you when you first started your build, and you now have an i7 + a used 7870 when you could have had an i5 + R9 290.  I'm just showing you that there is a very cheap alternative to a full custom loop that gives great temperatures and low noise.

 

You will have to figure out what it is that you want, and what you can afford.  Also, with the rumored release of the brand new 800/900 series cards, I would wait for those cards to come out.  If you do decide to buy used, buy EVGA because their warranties transfer.  When the new cards hit the stores, there will be an influx of old GPUs onto eBay, Craigslist, etc...  Or maybe you will want to buy one of the brand new cards.

Ok thank you for all your help. 

 

Another note, BULLSHIT. I could not of had a 290 and a i5. The i7 only cost $90 more. Plus i bought my 7870 ghz 2 months before the build cuz it was a good deal.  My dad loaned me the extra money for the i7 at the time and i feel it was a good investment as the CPU will last 3-4 years and the gpu i only expected to keep untill the new cards were realeased. Also when i purchased this PC, (june 1st.) the 290's were still 500 bucks.  And when i said "so should i buy a new one" I meant what would you do in my position. I also did listen to you. I BOUGHT A INTEL PROCESSOR BASICALLY BECAUSE YOU SWAYED ME FROM AMD.

 

Once again thanks for the help no need to flame me. <3 you always give good advice.

[Faceman]

@Totally-A-Child

 

     You have a much different story than when you first posted asking for help for a $1,000 build.  You were buying this as a gaming machine.  You don't need an i7, and you definitely don't need AMD for gaming and for such a large budget. You had better be grateful that I swayed you away from AMD because of the misinformation that is spread on this forum. The i5 will last you 3-5 years.  Problem is, you overshot the processor and fell short on the GPU.  You bought the 7870 a week before you finished your build because you saw a used one for $120. You then complained about how you were stuck with the 7870, and you kept going back and forth if you should buy a 2nd one or resell it.  You also bought the 500R, only to be unhappy with it and try to trade it/sell it on the classifieds when I had recommended a different case.  You also went overkill on your PSU, probably because you were thinking of going Xfire with the 7870s, and its pretty clear you aren't going to follow through on that now.  I built you a beautiful, balanced rig for $1,000 with an i5 + R9 290 because you live near a Microcenter.  It was incredibly powerful from day one, and would have lasted you a very long time without any upgrades, but it remained upgrade-ready.

 

My point is, when you start getting ahead of your self like planning to buy a water cooling system when you don't even have a GPU picked out, problems are going to arise, specifically an unbalanced, possibly incompatible build.  My way of handling this is not tactful at all, and I am coming off very pompous, but don't come to a forum, ask for advice, then disregard that advice and complain about the components that you selected when you veered off the recommended and proven path.  The computer you have is still plenty strong, but you are at a crossroads now because of your past choices.

[Totally-A-Hero]

#BANGBANG

 

 

Lol your right. I dont like the 500r. But i got that on sale too (for 60 bucks and free shipping) So i posted an exchange on the forum cause why not? Might as well see what is out there. Ya i thought about going 7870 cfx. But decided against it recently because of rumored new card release and overall not a good financial decison. I bought the GPU refurbished 2 months before i built my system. My original plan was 1g but as cheap as possible was better. I dont regret any of the decision's i made. Saying that i bought it a week before was retarded, i know when i pruchased it because I PURCHASED IT. Of course a i5+290 would have been great but that isnt how it worked out. Plus you recommended a $25 case lol. Probably would have been more unsatisfied with that then a 500r.

[Faceman]

Lol your right. I dont like the 500r. But i got that on sale too (for 60 bucks and free shipping) So i posted an exchange on the forum cause why not? Might as well see what is out there. Ya i thought about going 7870 cfx. But decided against it recently because of rumored new card release and overall not a good financial decison. I bought the GPU refurbished 2 months before i built my system. My original plan was 1g but as cheap as possible was better. I dont regret any of the decision's i made. Saying that i bought it a week before was retarded, i know when i pruchased it because I PURCHASED IT. Of course a i5+290 would have been great but that isnt how it worked out. Plus you recommended a $25 case lol. Probably would have been more unsatisfied with that then a 500r.

     It was a week before, I remember.  I will go drag up the posts if I have to.  You asked for help on your build, there was a lot of argument between the 8350 and the i5.  You then went ahead and bought the 7870 before anything else because you found it for $120, this was a week before the rest of the components were purchased, I remember because you later asked why your temperatures were so high on the 4770k and the people who were helping you were shocked at why you purchased the i7 over the i5 when you were trying to minimize costs.

     I recommended you the 200R because it was on sale that week for $30 without mail in rebates.  The 500R was $50 because it had a $30 MIR on an $80 retail price. You're right that the 200R doesn't give you as many features as the 500R, but it is a very good case for only $30 and serves its purpose, while allowing you to make the build I recommended happen at budget. You also aren't waiting two months for a $30 pre-paid card that might or might not come.

 

     I am done with this conversation.  In the future, have a defined plan of what you want to do and when people offer their advice that you sought out, follow through on their advice given.  It makes you look silly.  This is not your first time posting about water cooling your system either, and you cannot seem to do simple research on your own.  You are in a predicament now and you are going to have to make some tough decisions.  All of which could have easily been avoided, or by spending less money than it is going to end up costing you now.

 

Good luck, you're going to need it.

[Totally-A-Hero]

For the record, my $30 card came . Faceman, you've always been helpful. If you would like, ill link my newegg receipt to you with the purchase date of my 7870. I bought the i7-4770k because my DAD paid for the difference (at the time i have paid him since) . So, if you had the oppurtunity to grab a i7 over a i5 for $90 more and pay it back later with zero interest would you? Of course you would! As for my second water cooling post, guilty as charged. But instead of bumping a old thread i just created a new one.

 

I did follow your advice! I bought the intel processor! A better one than you recommended even!

 

@Faceman

[Faceman]

For the record, my $30 card came . Faceman, you've always been helpful. If you would like, ill link my newegg receipt to you with the purchase date of my 7870. I bought the i7-4770k because my DAD paid for the difference (at the time i have paid him since) . So, if you had the oppurtunity to grab a i7 over a i5 for $90 more and pay it back later with zero interest would you? Of course you would! As for my second water cooling post, guilty as charged. But instead of bumping a old thread i just created a new one.

 

I did follow your advice! I bought the intel processor! A better one than you recommended even!

 

@Faceman

May 22nd

"So i recently picked up a refurbed HD 7870 Ghz for $120.I know that 1 card is always better but i can pick another one up for the same price is it worth it?I mean for $240 i get something that performs simialar to a 290.And when the GEN of cards come out i could sell these for like $100 each and pick up a 390 (assuming they call it that.)"

-Source

 

June 2nd

"So how much of a performance improvement is there gonna be over something like a i5-4670k? The guy at Micro Center told my dad it was MUCH better for CAd and my dad oferred to give me the $90 for the upgrade.Im now thinking that i might have mislead my dad into thinking that ith i7 was WAY better when in fact does it even make a difference?"

-Source

 

There are then a couple more posts about you wondering what you should do with your GPU, if you made a mistake about the i7-4770k because the i7-4790k just came out, all within a months time.  You did not buy your GPU 2 months before your CPU, it was more like 2 weeks.

 

You're a little kid who is full of it.

[Totally-A-Hero]

May 22nd

"So i recently picked up a refurbed HD 7870 Ghz for $120.I know that 1 card is always better but i can pick another one up for the same price is it worth it?I mean for $240 i get something that performs simialar to a 290.And when the GEN of cards come out i could sell these for like $100 each and pick up a 390 (assuming they call it that.)"

-Source

 

June 2nd

"So how much of a performance improvement is there gonna be over something like a i5-4670k? The guy at Micro Center told my dad it was MUCH better for CAd and my dad oferred to give me the $90 for the upgrade.Im now thinking that i might have mislead my dad into thinking that ith i7 was WAY better when in fact does it even make a difference?"

-Source

 

There are then a couple more posts about you wondering what you should do with your GPU, if you made a mistake about the i7-4770k because the i7-4790k just came out, all within a months time.  You did not buy your GPU 2 months before your CPU, it was more like 2 weeks.

 

You're a little kid who is full of it.

LOL Just because i made a post about it then does not mean i bought it then. Yes i was concerned at first that i wasted my money on the i7. It turned out to be ok. I was confused about the 4790k and what it really was and if it was worth it to go upgrade to it. Is this a problem? My GPU was bought 3 weeks before purchase of other components. The case was bought 1 month and 1.5 weeks before other part purchases. If you want to continue this disscussion (you probably do cuz you seem mad lol) just pm me no reason to spam forum Also if i wanted to do cfx that is my choice! I wanted other opinions! Why would i, PC novice not consult experts before making a fairly large decision? If you thought my posts were bad when i made them you should have PM'ed me then. Not randomly flame me months later.