4690k vs. 1230v3

[79wjd]

Which will perform better in future games? 

 

Currently, the 4690k will outperform the 1230v3 due to the fact that its stock speed is faster and that it can overclock to a much higher frequency. But in the future, games will begin to utilize 5+ cores.... 

 

So at 1080p+ gaming, will the extra "cores" from the Xeon prove to be more useful than the extra clock speed from the i5? 

[Shd0w2]

xeon is good, but still not worth it compared to the 4690k for just gaming, I have said this  before.

Do a 4690k for gaming and OC, xeon if you really need the rendering ability.

 

By the time they use more than 5 cores, those CPUs will probably be outdated 

[Archangel1994]

The xeon will only win when games use more than 4 cores/threads since the xeon cannot OC. Since that might take a while the 4690k seems a more solid choice. I would go 4790K if you have the money though.

[DevanArianne]

Most likely not. Yes in the future more cores will be helpful, but  we are far away from pushing past the use of 4 cores. developers aren't going to design for business class hardware, so they are going to keep it 4 cores as long and the average consumer has 4 cores. 

[patrickjp93]

The xeon will only win when games use more than 4 cores/threads since the xeon cannot OC. Since that might take a while the 4690k seems a more solid choice. I would go 4790K if you have the money though.

Incorrect. Xeons can overclock, just not as much as a k-series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xeon-e5620-overclocking-westmere-ep,2767-2.html

 

The same has held true since westmere. The Xeon also comes with a lot of features and instructions which k-series chips have disabled.

[Guest]

The most common CPUs in gaming rigs out there are still dual cores, I doubt that we will see 6+ cores being utilized properly in the near future. Also, GPU bound games would not benefit from this, even if they were properly multithreaded.

[Archangel1994]

Incorrect. Xeons can overclock, just not as much as a k-series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xeon-e5620-overclocking-westmere-ep,2767-2.html

 

The same has held true since westmere. The Xeon also comes with a lot of features and instructions which k-series chips have disabled.

I call upping the BCLK by 3 MHz not true overclocking.

[Ren]

To keep it simple, there are so many reasons why the 1230v3 wouldn't be a good purchase for you over the 4690k long-term (arguably even for use today).

 

 

Maybe I'm somewhat misinformed but it sounds like a terrible idea. Xeons aren't for gaming.

[Guest]

To keep it simple, there are so many reasons why the 1230v3 wouldn't be a good purchase for you over the 4690k long-term (arguably even for use today).

 

 

Maybe I'm somewhat misinformed but it sounds like a terrible idea. Xeons aren't for gaming.

 

It's not a "terrible choice". A Xeon will perform well in games, the comparison to an i7 at lower clock speeds and no iGPU is actually pretty close.

[patrickjp93]

It's not a "terrible choice". A Xeon will perform well in games, the comparison to an i7 at lower clock speeds and no iGPU is actually pretty close.

Some Xeons have iGPUs. I don't know about this one specifically. But yes, it's essentially an I7 with bonus features but a lower clock rate. The hyperthreading is great for freeing up clock cycles over a standard I5.

I call upping the BCLK by 3 MHz not true overclocking.

There's a lot more going on than that.

[Guest]

Some Xeons have iGPUs. I don't know about this one specifically. But yes, it's essentially an I7 with bonus features but a lower clock rate. The hyperthreading is great for freeing up clock cycles over a standard I5.

 

This Xeon has been advertised as an "i7 without the useless iGPU" for quite some time. It's definitely a nice choice if you need hyperthreading but don't have the extra cash for the i7 and it still performs well in games. But you're missing out on the fun overclocking, of course.

[Ren]

It's not a "terrible choice". A Xeon will perform well in games, the comparison to an i7 at lower clock speeds and no iGPU is actually pretty close.

 

I was under the impression that Xeons are better, far better, for singular tasks (such as only processing one particular part of a game) and i7's in comparison are better for general computing (background programs, all aspects of a game, etc). Tell me if I'm wrong, it's just why I said that at all.

 

Edit: I might be thinking of some new tech regarding what I said about Xeons... I think I just made myself look like a fucking idiot. Sorry.

[Syraz]

For intel builds

Gaming only? i5

Gaming & Overclocking i5 "k"

Need Hyperthreading No Overclocking Xeon

Need hyperthreading and overclocking i7 "k" series

[Ren]

Overclocking doesn't have as much value as people think, especially when you wanna couple it with a board that isn't crap for OC.

 

 

I'm just asking but wouldn't you put the X820k i7's below/with Xeons on that list, assuming what you say is true?

[Guest]

I was under the impression that Xeons are better, far better, for singular tasks (such as only processing one particular part of a game) and i7's in comparison are better for general computing (background programs, all aspects of a game, etc). Tell me if I'm wrong, it's just why I said that at all.

 

Edit: I might be thinking of some new tech regarding what I said about Xeons... I think I just made myself look like a fucking idiot. Sorry.

 

Even if it's not made for games, it is performing pretty damn well. Basically all benchmarks show that the Xeon is on par with the i5 or i7.

[patrickjp93]

I was under the impression that Xeons are better, far better, for singular tasks (such as only processing one particular part of a game) and i7's in comparison are better for general computing (background programs, all aspects of a game, etc). Tell me if I'm wrong, it's just why I said that at all.

Edit: I might be thinking of some new tech regarding what I said about Xeons... I think I just made myself look like a fucking idiot. Sorry.

I believe you're thinking of the E7 Xeons which come with an FPGA meant to be uber rapid at one task while the rest of the CPU is great for generalized computing.

This Xeon has been advertised as an "i7 without the useless iGPU" for quite some time. It's definitely a nice choice if you need hyperthreading but don't have the extra cash for the i7 and it still performs well in games. But you're missing out on the fun overclocking, of course.

http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78581/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-v3-Family#@Server

some xeon's have iGPUs.

God damn the url and this forum.

[Ren]

I believe you're thinking of the E7 Xeons which come with an FPGA meant to be uber rapid at one task while the rest of the CPU is great for generalized computing.

 

 

This is exactly what I was thinking of, thanks for clarifying. Disregard my posts outside of questions for other users, I have no idea what I'm talking about apparently.

[patrickjp93]

This is exactly what I was thinking of, thanks for clarifying. Disregard my posts outside of questions for other users, I have no idea what I'm talking about apparently.

It's fine. I don't have a clue about how they work, and they're totally incompatible with any consumer motherboard or system.

[Faa]

@Op a proper overclocked 4670k will easily outperform a xeon in any multithreaded game.

 

I call upping the BCLK by 3 MHz not true overclocking.

Most boards are forcing the max turbo boost across all cores, so 3.9GHz for 1-2 cores would be 3.9GHz with all 4 cores. Read it, dont watch at the benchmarks: http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5385/46/19-intel-z97-chipset-motherboards-review-testing-the-new-generation-benchmarks-cinebench-115