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defenetly a worthy upgrade you have a beast GPU that deserves a much better CPU, go for it...but i would spend less money for the motherboard personaly but this is just suggestion...

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Currently pushing the i7 860 to 3.6 ghz on water cooling.
And using the 780 Ti gc.

I was thinking on getting the i7 4790k + ASUS Maximus Vii Hero this weekend, 
but I would like to hear some recommendations/comments from other people.

Does it worth the upgrade or I'll be just fine with my current system?

*Mostly I use the rig as my gaming platform as well as doing some CAD work and analysis 
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Well. it is worth to upgrade from that. Because whta I know that the i7 860 is as good as a haswell i3 or even worse:/ so you are bottlenecking it.

 

I wont come with "Wait for broadwell CPUS" because intel delayed them to 2015 and not worth the wait.

 

I personally recommend a I7 4790k and a Maximus vii formula for the extra features and dual sata express. But that is just me.

 

There is some cheaper boards then ROG series, but ROG series are awsome and look awsome. So I recommend it. But note that you pay premium price for looks.

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Keep what you have. I don't think the upgrade is worth it, even though it would be noticeable. If you really wnt to upgrade, I suggest you wait for x99 or its successor, as we'll be getting hexa cores for less than 400 bucks (5820k). But even then, you're probably better off waiting for consimer cpus to offer a REAL improvement, not just slight incremental 10%ish improvements like we're seeing now.

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Well worth it dude, you jumped up 3 tiers from the 1st gen to the latest 4th gen. Go for it :D

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Yes, it'll be worth it, and with water cooling, you should be able to overclock the 4790K much further.

The Maximus VII Hero is a great motherboard with nice features and very stable overclocking.

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Well. it is worth to upgrade from that. Because whta I know that the i7 860 is as good as a haswell i3 or even worse:/ so you are bottlenecking it.

 

I wont come with "Wait for broadwell CPUS" because intel delayed them to 2015 and not worth the wait.

 

I personally recommend a I7 4790k and a Maximus vii formula for the extra features and dual sata express. But that is just me.

 

There is some cheaper boards then ROG series, but ROG series are awsome and look awsome. So I recommend it. But note that you pay premium price for looks.

Thank you for the recommendation.

But I need to budget my expenditure because I was thinking on getting a new pump and waterblock as well (Swiftech MCP 655 + Swiftech Apogee XL)

because my current pump annoys me with its weird noise. I couldn't stand it any longer. haha :D 

  

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I suggest you hold up till Broadwell. It's not that far off, you can save up more money, and it'll give you an even larger performance upgrade.

Even if you don't, when Broadwell comes out the price of Haswell will drop, allowing you to save money or get an even better chip.

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Keep what you have. I don't think the upgrade is worth it, even though it would be noticeable. If you really wnt to upgrade, I suggest you wait for x99 or its successor, as we'll be getting hexa cores for less than 400 bucks (5820k). But even then, you're probably better off waiting for consimer cpus to offer a REAL improvement, not just slight incremental 10%ish improvements like we're seeing now.

I'm sorry. Is it 10% improvement over the 4770k or the 860?  :blink:

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http://cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=6&cmp[]=1919&cmp[]=2275

cpubenchmark.net is a great way to compare CPUs

The 4790 scores about 11000

4770 scores 10000

860 scores 5000

More than double improvement with the 4790, but still a great, powerful processor.

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http://cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=6&cmp[]=1919&cmp[]=2275

cpubenchmark.net is a great way to compare CPUs

The 4790 scores about 11000

4770 scores 10000

860 scores 5000

More than double improvement with the 4790, but still a great, powerful processor.

 

not really...

 

I would use real world applications and gaming performance charts. CPUBench isn't that good...

 

Edit: But the 4790K is still work the upgrade. Go for it!

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Despite what everyone here has said, you will not notice a big real world difference.

I went from 1st gen i7 920 @ 3.8ghz to i7 4790k @ 4.7ghz and haven't noticed any real big gains and I doubt you would either.

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Despite what everyone here has said, you will not notice a big real world difference.

I went from 1st gen i7 920 @ 3.8ghz to i7 4790k @ 4.7ghz and haven't noticed any real big gains and I doubt you would either.

This is very true! Unless you're doing Video editing or some other stuff that most normal people won't use, you'll be fine for a long while.

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I'm sorry. Is it 10% improvement over the 4770k or the 860?  :blink:

 

no xD it's been a 10% improvement more or less in the last two generations as in ivy bridge = sandy +10%, haswell = ivy +10%. There is a bigger improvement over the 860, but it's not twice as fast or anything and I would wait that point to consider upgrading.

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You are bottlenecking your gpu, but even then, you should be able to run your game on high setting without having your cpu hindering it for I have a i7 870. If your game run fine, why not wait for the next biggest upgrade like go from quad core to 6 or 8 core. It is not like your pc can't handle anything in 1-2 more year

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defenetly a worthy upgrade you have a beast GPU that deserves a much better CPU, go for it...but i would spend less money for the motherboard personaly but this is just suggestion...

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I agree that it would be worth it. You would be running way faster and cooler. Overclocking is not what it used to be, for that Sandy and Ivy were the best. But you are talking about 2 LGA sockets in the past (as far as mainstream) so there will be other advantages too. I say wait for Broadwell or Skylake. Broadwell is not too far off and Skylake is supposed to come soon afterwards. So definitely worth upgrading but in the not too distant future there will be newer chips, then you might wish you would have waited. I always hate that feeling! Many people would say to not worry about what's coming and just do the best you can right now. I guess it all depends on how often you can afford to upgrade.

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broadwell is not a new architecture it's only a die shrink, performance will be very similar to haswell only better power-consumption and skylake will be the new thing but it's due only for late 2015, so no reasons to wait you need a new CPU buy one now.

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I personally think paying the extra for the Asus board is dumb to just get a 2nd SATA Express port. SATA Express drives are shaping up to be as expensive as M.2 while being slower. In my opinion, wait for X99 (unless you want to work off the integrated graphics for something) and get one of the Asrock boards with their Ultra M.2 slot. We'll see PCIe 3 SSDs from Samsung soon based on their new VNAND tech in the 850 Pro.

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broadwell is not a new architecture it's only a die shrink, performance will be very similar to haswell only better power-consumption and skylake will be the new thing but it's due only for late 2015, so no reasons to wait you need a new CPU buy one now.

We might see AVX 3.2 appearing though. There are just a couple new instructions slotted to be put in, but yes, otherwise it's Haswell with a die shrink (not a bad thing at all as power efficient as the Haswell chips have been).

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We will see AVX 3.2 appearing though. There are just a couple new instructions slotted to be put in, but yes, otherwise it's Haswell with a die shrink (not a bad thing at all as power efficient as the Haswell chips have been).

AVX 3.2 will be for Skylake obviously

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AVX 3.2 will be for Skylake obviously

It's POSSIBLY slotted for Broadwell, not that it would be hard given there's a 512-bit register in Haswell chips.

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It's slotted for Broadwell, not that it was hard given there's a 512-bit register in Haswell chips.

Got a source?

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Got a source?

speculation on extremetech based on two sentences from an interview. I should revise and say it might be. It's too early in Hungary :P

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