Get G3258 and wait for Broadwell Processor?

[Hargreaves]

So I was planning on building a z97 machine for some gaming and adobe suite projects (Currently doing that on a iMac). 

 

I heard the Broadwell Processors coming in Q4 of this year or later 2015, will be compatible with z97. So for the meantime to save money, should I just get a g3258 and upgrade to a better one later on? It would probably be okay for me in mid-high gaming if I get a 780/780 ti.

 

Let me know what ya'll think.

 

Thanks.

[TheSLSAMG]

It would be okay, but keep doing your Adobe Suite projects on the iMac.

[79wjd]

I don't really see the reason to do that... Broadwell will only be marginally better than Haswell. 

[SpyRosL]

I personally don't like the idea using an older motherboard with a newer series of processor but that's just personal.

i think it's a good idea but only if you absolutely need to buy a new one now.You already have an imac so if you can wait..there is always a nice feature that will come with the broadwell motherboards that z97 won't have.

[TheSLSAMG]

I don't really see the reason to do that... Broadwell will only be marginally better than Haswell. 

This reason was always flawed IMO.

 

Why?

Don't get Sandy Bridge, it will only be marginally better than Westmere, and you will have to buy a new motherboard.

Don't get Ivy Bridge, it will only be marginally better than Sandy Bridge.

Don't get Haswell, it will only be marginally better than Ivy Bridge, and you will have to buy a new motherboard.

Don't get Haswell, it will only be marginally better than Sandy Bridge, and you will have to buy a new motherboard.

 

I have mentioned 4 product generations, spanning across 4 years. These excuses have been used by hundreds, if not thousands of people, to keep others from making what in their opinions were bad choices. Yet, in itself, the performance gains from generation to generation can be noticeable in some cases, along with the additions of new features. From Sandy Bridge to Haswell, clock-for-clock performance increases can in fact hit 15-20%.

[SpyRosL]

This reason was always flawed IMO.

 

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that's totally true.

Just an example; I see cinebench as a real world benchmarking program so my 3570k at 5.01ghz scored 706cb while @harrynowl 's 4690k scored 717 with 4.7ghz. (also cinebench relies to much on frequency)

The performance difference is there.

[SpecTre12345]

I have mentioned 4 product generations, spanning across 4 years. These excuses have been used by hundreds, if not thousands of people, to keep others from making what in their opinions were bad choices. Yet, in itself, the performance gains from generation to generation can be noticeable in some cases, along with the additions of new features. From Sandy Bridge to Haswell, clock-for-clock performance increases can in fact hit 15-20%.

 

Except that's not the argument, the argument is to get a mediocre Haswell chip now to upgrade to a Broadwell chip later. Haswell to Broadwell is not going to be 15-20%. It will be 10% at most, Haswell to Broadwell is a die shrink with probably minimal increases in IPC. Most likely 10% like it has been from Sandy to Ivy and Ivy to Haswell. 

 

There's no point in buying a G3258 now when you can just get a 4690k or 4790k instead and be fine even when Broadwell releases. 

[Sintezza]

Except that's not the argument, the argument is to get a mediocre Haswell chip now to upgrade to a Broadwell chip later. Haswell to Broadwell is not going to be 15-20%. It will be 10% at most, Haswell to Broadwell is a die shrink with probably minimal increases in IPC. Most likely 10% like it has been from Sandy to Ivy and Ivy to Haswell. 

 

There's no point in buying a G3258 now when you can just get a 4690k or 4790k instead and be fine even when Broadwell releases. 

 

i agree with this, i personaly dont see any vallid point to botter about broadwell, if you can grab a 4690K or 4790K.

The performance diffrence will be so minimal, if wont probably event be noticable in the real world.

Even the 4670K or 4770K  and broadwell won´t be much of a diffrence. only a few numbers which you will not notice in the real world.

[79wjd]

This reason was always flawed IMO.

 

Why?

Don't get Sandy Bridge, it will only be marginally better than Westmere, and you will have to buy a new motherboard.

Don't get Ivy Bridge, it will only be marginally better than Sandy Bridge.

Don't get Haswell, it will only be marginally better than Ivy Bridge, and you will have to buy a new motherboard.

Don't get Haswell, it will only be marginally better than Sandy Bridge, and you will have to buy a new motherboard.

 

I have mentioned 4 product generations, spanning across 4 years. These excuses have been used by hundreds, if not thousands of people, to keep others from making what in their opinions were bad choices. Yet, in itself, the performance gains from generation to generation can be noticeable in some cases, along with the additions of new features. From Sandy Bridge to Haswell, clock-for-clock performance increases can in fact hit 15-20%.

If the generation is already out, or you're willing to wait, then I agree you should go for the newest one. But...is it worthwhile to buy a crappy processor just to hold you over until a successor to the better processor comes out....I don't really think it is since the performance difference is marginal. 

[Thony]

Your iMac is at 4.3ghz and has GTX 780m. I dont see the point for upgrading.  Would be waste of money, why did u get 27inhc Mac in the 1st place ? U got bored after year of using it ?

[patrickjp93]

I personally don't like the idea using an older motherboard with a newer series of processor but that's just personal.

i think it's a good idea but only if you absolutely need to buy a new one now.You already have an imac so if you can wait..there is always a nice feature that will come with the broadwell motherboards that z97 won't have.

Broadwell is staying on Z97. Z170/107 is for Skylake only.

[patrickjp93]

I'd say ignore Haswell and just dual-boot your iMac if you need another OS. They have really great displays so I don't see much point in you upgrading until Broadwell (which may only come out in mobile parts the way things are looking now) or Skylake (due to launch Q2 of 2015).