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I tried to overclock and it seems to work fine on 4.5ghz on 1.200V but there is this other thing called "Ring". In a video on how to overclock this processor with the same motherboard I have. He said that the ring clockspeed should be a Ghz less than the cpu clock speed. If that is right how much Voltage should I give the ring? The max is at 1.200V and I think it wont work if I put my CPU clockspeed at 4.7Ghz and my ring clockspeed at 4.6Ghz to let the ring run at 1.200V.

Ring should not be 1Ghz lower than your core multiplier, that makes absolutely no sense unless you're running a x50 core multiplier, even then it makes very little sense how anyone could recommend that (maybe he said 100mhz?) either way, it isn't accurate. Generally people shoot for a 1:1 core:uncore, but having uncore ~2-400mHz below core is where people tend to end up north of a 4.5Ghz core clock. (MOBO settings would look like x45 core, x43 uncore -also called ring and cache). Roughly the same goes for core vs. uncore/ring/cache voltages, they will tend to hit a stable setting ~ -.05-.15v away from wherever core is. For instance, if you're stable at 1.25v at core, uncore/ring/cache will probably be stable at anywhere from 1.2v to 1.1v.

 

Here are the voltage specs I have used on the last 3 i5-4670/4690k's I've built:

VCore: 1.18-1.27v (all depends on luck of the draw and where clocks ended up)

VRing/Uncore/Cache (different MOBO's use different nomenclature-all are related to your North Bridge Cache voltage): 1.05-1.25 (all depends on luck of the draw and where clocks ended up)

VCCIN/Input: 1.67-1.75v

Voltage Offsets: + 0-.01v (leave offsets at 0v until you're at your clock limit, use them only to try a stable clock 100mHz higher than your highest stable)

 

Never set any voltage on Auto or any other setting other than manual for when you are benchmarking, Z87/97 boards do insane things with voltage on auto/adaptive using synthetic tests. Keep Vring/uncore voltage under 1.3v, Vcore under 1.35v, and VCCIN/input under 1.9v to be safe. If you're trying to hit 4.5Ghz and you're still getting blue screens around 1.25v @ core you will probably have to lower your uncore(cache) multiplier to ~x43. I've only been able to get 1:1 core:uncore on one chip @4.5. The others were stuck running 4.3/4.5 and 4.5/4.7. There is also the distinct possibility that your chip will simply not hit 4.5 at ANY voltage, it's all luck of the draw, although I would be more than willing to bet you're having issues with your RAM settings or the 1:1 ratio will just not be stable -it happens fairly often with these Haswell chips. If you're not already running your RAM in JDEC @ 1333 set it there until you find a rock solid OC, then you can try cranking the RAM up to whatever XMP settings it came with, although I would set the RAM voltage for rated even running at JDEC (usually 1.5 or 1.65v). In my experiences with overclocking Haswells Prime95 HATES RAM speeds higher than JDEC, I've only used Prime95 to bench it @ JDEC, then switched over to AIDA64 once I had my G Skill @ 2400 XMP's. Prime95 screen locked every time once the RAM had been increased. AIDA64'd for 14 hours on each machine for the final bench and they're all running with 0 issues.

 

Another thing to keep an eye on specifically with voltages is where you have LLC (Load-Line Calibration) set at. Most boards will have a 0-8 level setting, for OCing I wouldn't have it set at anything less than lvl 5, just make sure you enable LLC at a lower voltage setting and DO NOT try to crank it up to 11 (there is no 11, I just couldn't help myself) when you are already at your voltage limits, it will push it over.

 

Good luck

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Well Hello there.

Firstly I'm new here in this forum and this is the first Topic I created. Since I could never find an answer to my question through Goggle I decided to put it here.

So my problem is that when I overclock my Intel i5 4670K to 4.5Ghz I randomly get bluescreens saying something with "error_watchdog" in the error message. Does that mean that I've overclocked too high and that my CPU can't get higher or should I try to encrease the voltage of my CPU even further? Right now I've got it on 1.750V I think. I'm new to overclocking and I don't want to fry my parts.

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Well Hello there.

 I've got it on 1.750V I think.

no wat no no no no lower it now lower it yesterday!

 

God I hope you misread it or read something else. Put it to around 1.2v and no higher than 1.3v.

 

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no wat no no no no lower it now lower it yesterday!

 

God I hope you misread it. Put it to around 1.2v and no higher than 1.3v.

 

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My 4770k is at 1.425V or something xD and it's still fine and cool 

Of course I also REALLY hope he misread, or his CPU is dead

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My 4770k is at 1.425V or something xD and it's still fine and cool 

Of course I also REALLY hope he misread, or his CPU is dead

my 4670k is at 4.7ghz and 1.425

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Yeah sry, I missread. There was another thing at 1.750V. It's at 1.175V. But back to my question. This error I get does it mean that the CPU runs out of Voltage or that it is clocked too high?

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Yeah sry, I missread. There was another thing at 1.750V. It's at 1.175V. But back to my question. This error I get does it mean that the CPU runs out of Voltage or that it is clocked too high?

It means there isn't enough voltage, my chip is a pretty good one and 4.5 takes 1.22v

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Okay, I think I've got a little problem. I've done as you said and tried overclocking it at 4,5Ghz at 1,22V. I turned my PC on and everything worked fine until I started Prime95. As soon as I started testing the PC froze and I tried everything I could to get it working again until I shut it down through holding the power button. After that I wanted to turn it on again and nothing happened. I looked inside the case and I cant see any obvious physical damage or anything like that. It just doesnt react to pressing the power button. What can I do now?

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Ok I dont know what just happened to my PC but it randomly turned itself on. Like 1 minute after I pressed the power button WTF is going on here?

Raise your voltage to 1.200 @ 4.5Ghz.  If it is stable, slowly start lowering voltage until you get a BSOD, the last stable voltage is the voltage you should use.

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I tried to overclock and it seems to work fine on 4.5ghz on 1.200V but there is this other thing called "Ring". In a video on how to overclock this processor with the same motherboard I have. He said that the ring clockspeed should be a Ghz less than the cpu clock speed. If that is right how much Voltage should I give the ring? The max is at 1.200V and I think it wont work if I put my CPU clockspeed at 4.7Ghz and my ring clockspeed at 4.6Ghz to let the ring run at 1.200V.

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no wat no no no no lower it now lower it yesterday!

 

God I hope you misread it or read something else. Put it to around 1.2v and no higher than 1.3v.

 

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1.35V is the good maximum. 1.4V if your cooler can handle it. 1.5V + 5GHz+ for benching. 

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I tried to overclock and it seems to work fine on 4.5ghz on 1.200V but there is this other thing called "Ring". In a video on how to overclock this processor with the same motherboard I have. He said that the ring clockspeed should be a Ghz less than the cpu clock speed. If that is right how much Voltage should I give the ring? The max is at 1.200V and I think it wont work if I put my CPU clockspeed at 4.7Ghz and my ring clockspeed at 4.6Ghz to let the ring run at 1.200V.

Ring should not be 1Ghz lower than your core multiplier, that makes absolutely no sense unless you're running a x50 core multiplier, even then it makes very little sense how anyone could recommend that (maybe he said 100mhz?) either way, it isn't accurate. Generally people shoot for a 1:1 core:uncore, but having uncore ~2-400mHz below core is where people tend to end up north of a 4.5Ghz core clock. (MOBO settings would look like x45 core, x43 uncore -also called ring and cache). Roughly the same goes for core vs. uncore/ring/cache voltages, they will tend to hit a stable setting ~ -.05-.15v away from wherever core is. For instance, if you're stable at 1.25v at core, uncore/ring/cache will probably be stable at anywhere from 1.2v to 1.1v.

 

Here are the voltage specs I have used on the last 3 i5-4670/4690k's I've built:

VCore: 1.18-1.27v (all depends on luck of the draw and where clocks ended up)

VRing/Uncore/Cache (different MOBO's use different nomenclature-all are related to your North Bridge Cache voltage): 1.05-1.25 (all depends on luck of the draw and where clocks ended up)

VCCIN/Input: 1.67-1.75v

Voltage Offsets: + 0-.01v (leave offsets at 0v until you're at your clock limit, use them only to try a stable clock 100mHz higher than your highest stable)

 

Never set any voltage on Auto or any other setting other than manual for when you are benchmarking, Z87/97 boards do insane things with voltage on auto/adaptive using synthetic tests. Keep Vring/uncore voltage under 1.3v, Vcore under 1.35v, and VCCIN/input under 1.9v to be safe. If you're trying to hit 4.5Ghz and you're still getting blue screens around 1.25v @ core you will probably have to lower your uncore(cache) multiplier to ~x43. I've only been able to get 1:1 core:uncore on one chip @4.5. The others were stuck running 4.3/4.5 and 4.5/4.7. There is also the distinct possibility that your chip will simply not hit 4.5 at ANY voltage, it's all luck of the draw, although I would be more than willing to bet you're having issues with your RAM settings or the 1:1 ratio will just not be stable -it happens fairly often with these Haswell chips. If you're not already running your RAM in JDEC @ 1333 set it there until you find a rock solid OC, then you can try cranking the RAM up to whatever XMP settings it came with, although I would set the RAM voltage for rated even running at JDEC (usually 1.5 or 1.65v). In my experiences with overclocking Haswells Prime95 HATES RAM speeds higher than JDEC, I've only used Prime95 to bench it @ JDEC, then switched over to AIDA64 once I had my G Skill @ 2400 XMP's. Prime95 screen locked every time once the RAM had been increased. AIDA64'd for 14 hours on each machine for the final bench and they're all running with 0 issues.

 

Another thing to keep an eye on specifically with voltages is where you have LLC (Load-Line Calibration) set at. Most boards will have a 0-8 level setting, for OCing I wouldn't have it set at anything less than lvl 5, just make sure you enable LLC at a lower voltage setting and DO NOT try to crank it up to 11 (there is no 11, I just couldn't help myself) when you are already at your voltage limits, it will push it over.

 

Good luck

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