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Velociraptor = Extreme Performance

Black = High Performance

Blue = Average Performance

Green = Energy Effeciency

Red = RAID Optimized

Purple = Good for Constant Read/Write

 

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Red and Purple are rated for 24/7 use

We got these in 2012, and those replaced some 150GB drives we had for ages. I usually make the hardware decisions, but I don't make the budget and final approval decisions, please understand. And for servers that have delta fans I don't think noisey drives is a reason to upgrade. We've only had them for 1.5 years and it'll probably be at least another year before an upgrade.  They are lower demand web servers anyway, bleeding edge speed is not always needed.  

SSD are much faster and more relable and less noise and heat than any HDD the choice now in days is clear go SSD for OS. LOLLOLOLOLOOLOLOOOOOOL

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We got these in 2012, and those replaced some 150GB drives we had for ages. I usually make the hardware decisions, but I don't make the budget and final approval decisions, please understand. And that's the story for a low of people, even at large companies.  And for servers that have delta fans I don't think noisey drives is a reason to upgrade. We've only had them for 1.5 years and it'll probably be at least another year before an upgrade.  They are lower demand web servers anyway, bleeding edge speed is not always needed.  

Power consumption, yes that would improve, but this is not a large server room and it's pretty inconsequential. Just a few racks. 

 

SSD are much faster and more relable and less noise and heat than any HDD the choice now in days is clear go SSD for OS. LOLLOLOLOLOOLOLOOOOOOL

Good lord read. And you must not know much about servers. We have no reason to upgrade right now, nor the budget. 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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Good lord read. And you must not know much about servers. We have no reason to upgrade right now, nor the budget. 

GTFO for performance SSD id the way to go. Servers get WD Green for fuck sakes LOL.

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GTFO for performance SSD id the way to go. Servers get WD Green for fuck sakes LOL.

lol no. Yes, some of the backup arrays have them. 

And if you would read you would know that the 10000 RPM drives serve just fine. They are for sets of website data that is frequently accessed. Not the OS. And they run in raid 10, and exceed the need performance wise. 

Do you know anything about budgeting and servers or must you always argue for the sake of being a dick? You seem to do this frequently. 

Hell if you'd read you'd realize I won't get to upgrade for a while anyway, but intend to go with SSDs. 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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Velociraptor = Extreme Performance

Black = High Performance

Blue = Average Performance

Green = Energy Effeciency

Red = RAID Optimized

Purple = Good for Constant Read/Write

 

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Red and Purple are rated for 24/7 use

Gaming Rig: i5-3570k+H100i (4.3 ghz) | P8Z77-i Deluxe | MSI Twin Frozr 7950 Boost | HX650 | 1TB HGST | 840 Evo 250 GB

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Or just not WD at all. Especially the high capacity ones. 

 

As rude as you are I believe you. In the past I have had nothing but good drives from WD. I usually get blacks and greens. I have never owned a 4TB drive from WD before, and I'd have to say it might have do with the newer high capacity designs. I want to try out the 6TB ones but I'm scared to. To be fair every dead one has been replaced so far and I expect the newly failed ones to be as well but just way to frequent. 

I still will buy WD for 10000 RPM drives at least for now. Never had a single one let me down yet. Kinda amazing really. 

 

Some people just won't lighten up or do their research, eh? I believe your failure rates with the 4+ TB WD REDs as they had a bad batch/lot produced at one point or another. Anyone who knows how to google can find out this information, similar to how the Seagate 7200.11 1.5TB's were a complete wreck. (I still actually have one running/limping as IDoCaF-Storage (I don't care Failure Storage).

 

The unfortunate side of recommending hard drives is that ALL HARD DRIVE SERIES are good until one fails. Then they're called out to rot. It's like customer service personnel; there are rotten apples and there are delicious apples. In technology, it's all about the warranty/customer service, as Hitachi, WD, and Seagate all make excellent drives.

 

Personally, however, I plan to buy 4 WD Red 3TB NAS drives for their reliability and performance under 24/7 operation. Technically they won't be used in a dedicated NAS, at least not at the moment, but my PC is on 18+ hrs a day so close enough.

Desktop: KiRaShi-Intel-2022 (i5-12600K, RTX2060) Mobile: OnePlus 5T | Koodo - 75GB Data + Data Rollover for $45/month
Laptop: Dell XPS 15 9560 (the real 15" MacBook Pro that Apple didn't make) Tablet: iPad Mini 5 | Lenovo IdeaPad Duet 10.1
Camera: Canon M6 Mark II | Canon Rebel T1i (500D) | Canon SX280 | Panasonic TS20D Music: Spotify Premium (CIRCA '08)

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Some people just won't lighten up or do their research, eh? I believe your failure rates with the 4+ TB WD REDs as they had a bad batch/lot produced at one point or another. Anyone who knows how to google can find out this information, similar to how the Seagate 7200.11 1.5TB's were a complete wreck. (I still actually have one running/limping as IDoCaF-Storage (I don't care Failure Storage).

 

The unfortunate side of recommending hard drives is that ALL HARD DRIVE SERIES are good until one fails. Then they're called out to rot. It's like customer service personnel; there are rotten apples and there are delicious apples. In technology, it's all about the warranty/customer service, as Hitachi, WD, and Seagate all make excellent drives.

 

Personally, however, I plan to buy 4 WD Red 3TB NAS drives for their reliability and performance under 24/7 operation. Technically they won't be used in a dedicated NAS, at least not at the moment, but my PC is on 18+ hrs a day so close enough.

I'd almost recommend 2TB drives. It seems that while a lot are having similar problems with the 3TB and 4TB drives, the 2TB ones don't seem to have issues. That said, the support has been just fine. 

I'm not done with WD drives, but this is possibly the worst drive experience I've ever had. I'm backing away for a least a while, and who can blame me? I mean I know it may just be a bad batch, but who knows? I'm not the only one. 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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Velociraptor = Extreme Performance

Black = High Performance

Blue = Average Performance

Green = Energy Effeciency

Red = RAID Optimized

Purple = Good for Constant Read/Write

 

Seem to know your stuff. Great summary. What about RAINBOW drives?

Desktop: KiRaShi-Intel-2022 (i5-12600K, RTX2060) Mobile: OnePlus 5T | Koodo - 75GB Data + Data Rollover for $45/month
Laptop: Dell XPS 15 9560 (the real 15" MacBook Pro that Apple didn't make) Tablet: iPad Mini 5 | Lenovo IdeaPad Duet 10.1
Camera: Canon M6 Mark II | Canon Rebel T1i (500D) | Canon SX280 | Panasonic TS20D Music: Spotify Premium (CIRCA '08)

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Seem to know your stuff. Great summary. What about RAINBOW drives?

They survive a lot of in and out but can't be legally put in an array in most states. 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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