LGA 775 Revival

[seiny]

Hey guys doing a revival build, would like some input

 

So what I have is:

MSI G31M3-L V2 Board

Intel celeron E1500

2GB kingston DDR2 667MHz

 

There's also a floppy drive involved.

 

I wanna add either:

 

core2duo E8400

or

core2quad Q8200

 

I know the core2quad is like a no-brainer but how much better is it than the core2duo?

Where can I see benchmarks for these cpu's?

 

Also gonna add another 2GB DDR2 667MHz :lol: !

And possibly a geforce 9800 (if I can find one)

 

I would take some pics but everything's so dirty, need to clean up first.

 

This build is just for the fun of it.

 

Also gonna have windows 8   possibly..

[Sauron]

The quad is basically the same as the duo with twice the core count. It's a safe bet that it will perform twice as well in multithreaded programs that use more than 2 threads.

[flibberdipper]

The E8400 is a pretty damn good CPU. Not sure how much better the quad is though.

[FireFox]

If it was me I'd go with the Core 2 Quad

[seiny]

If it was me I'd go with the Core 2 Quad

Yeah I think so

 

The E8400 is a pretty damn good CPU. Not sure how much better the quad is though.

 

 

The quad is basically the same as the duo with twice the core count. It's a safe bet that it will perform twice as well in multithreaded programs that use more than 2 threads.

Ok next question - Geforce 8500gt 1GB or 9500gt 512MB

[Sauron]

Ok next question - Geforce 8500gt 1GB or 9500gt 512MB

 

9500gt cuz yolo

[flibberdipper]

Yeah I think so

 

 

 

Ok next question - Geforce 8500gt 1GB or 9500gt 512MB

9500GT. A little more power.

[activated1]

The C2D E8400 will out perform the Q8200 in all apps that don`t utilize more than two cores, not to mention that the E8400 can be easily OC-ed to 4GHz.

 

Regarding the GPU, the 9500GT is a re-badge of the 8600GT, so I would go for the 9500GT

[seiny]

The C2D E8400 will out perform the Q8200 in all apps that don`t utilize more than two cores, not to mention that the E8400 can be easily OC-ed to 4GHz.

 

Regarding the GPU, the 9500GT is a re-badge of the 8600GT, so I would go for the 9500GT

OC on that board of mine? MSI G31M3-L V2

[activated1]

You can try, I tested it on an Gigabyte board with the same chipset as yours and got 3.7GHz, but even at default the E8400 will outperform the Q8200. 

 

E8400 is clocked at 3GHz and has 6MB of L2 cache for 2 cores, where the Q8200 is clocked at 2.33GHz and has 4MB of L2 cache for 4 cores.

[seiny]

You can try, I tested it on an Gigabyte board with the same chipset as yours and got 3.7GHz, but even at default the E8400 will outperform the Q8200. 

 

E8400 is clocked at 3GHz and has 6MB of L2 cache for 2 cores, where the Q8200 is clocked at 2.33GHz and has 4MB of L2 cache for 4 cores.

 

 

E8400 was used to crush most C2Q

(demn intel an their marketing politics, y u lock ur shit?)

E8400 order placed.

[activated1]

E8400 order placed.

 

I`m assuming used? I can`t imagine that someone has those CPU`s on their shelves

 

If it was me I would have overclocked the hell out of that E1500, it performs quite admirable when you push it @ 3GHz+

[seiny]

Don't forget to check BIOS version

Wait, what ! what should I be looking for?

 

I`m assuming used? I can`t imagine that someone has those CPU`s on their shelves

 

If it was me I would have overclocked the hell out of that E1500, it performs quite admirable when you push it @ 3GHz+

Never overclocked before, advise me?

[activated1]

You can use CPU-Z to check the current bios version, and then check on the MSI website which version you need to run a Wolfdale based CPU. You can find that here.

 

As for overclocking the C2Ds are relatively easy to OC. The E1500 has an 11 multiplier so you calculate the clock speed of the CPU as FSBx11, the stock speed is 200x11=2200MHz, if you can get 300MHz FSB out of your board you will get the clock speed to 3.3GHz. That will require some trial and error, first to see can that board do that FSB clock (that shouldn't be an issue as it supports 333MHz FSB out of the box when flashed with the latest bios) and then to see how good of an overclocker your CPU is. You will also have to raise the CPU voltage, and maybe the NB voltage to stabilize the system. I ran my Pentium E2140 @ 2.96GHz at 1.44v

 

You can check system stability with programs like Prime95, LinX, OCCT or Orthos.

 

But overclocking will raise the heat output of the CPU so you should monitor the temperatures, CoreTemp will help there, anything to 65-70c under load is OK but I would not push it over that. If you're using the stock cooler your overcloking will be limited.

[seiny]

You can use CPU-Z to check the current bios version, and then check on the MSI website which version you need to run a Wolfdale based CPU. You can find that here.

 

As for overclocking the C2Ds are relatively easy to OC. The E1500 has an 11 multiplier so you calculate the clock speed of the CPU as FSBx11, the stock speed is 200x11=2200MHz, if you can get 300MHz FSB out of your board you will get the clock speed to 3.3GHz. That will require some trial and error, first to see can that board do that FSB clock (that shouldn't be an issue as it supports 333MHz FSB out of the box when flashed with the latest bios) and then to see how good of an overclocker your CPU is. You will also have to raise the CPU voltage, and maybe the NB voltage to stabilize the system. I ran my Pentium E2140 @ 2.96GHz at 1.44v

 

You can check system stability with programs like Prime95, LinX, OCCT or Orthos.

 

But overclocking will raise the heat output of the CPU so you should monitor the temperatures, CoreTemp will help there, anything to 65-70c under load is OK but I would not push it over that. If you're using the stock cooler your overcloking will be limited.

I'm running the latest bios V28 and the e8400 requires V22 am I safe? Also the E1500 is on the stock cooler but I'll experiment

[activated1]

Yes you are

 

You have a newer version than the minimum required

 

 

 

And one more thing if you can get your hands on a Q9400 or even better a Q9550 that would be a decent Quad build  B)

[FireFox]

You can try, I tested it on an Gigabyte board with the same chipset as yours and got 3.7GHz, but even at default the E8400 will outperform the Q8200. 

 

E8400 is clocked at 3GHz and has 6MB of L2 cache for 2 cores, where the Q8200 is clocked at 2.33GHz and has 4MB of L2 cache for 4 cores.

 

Not really, multi-threaded is fair amount better but overall they are pretty equal.

[activated1]

Not really, multi-threaded is fair amount better but overall they are pretty equal.

 

The C2D E8400 will out perform the Q8200 in all apps that don`t utilize more than two cores....

 

I men`t this from my previous post. I he`s going to be encoding video or doing some 3D rendering on that computer then the Q8200 would have a slight edge in the performance because of it`s 4 cores, but if he`s going to surf the internet, listen to music, watch movies, and play some older games on it then the E8400 will do a better job

[d33g33]

I was going to offer my Q9550 to see Old Goat live on but you're no where near Australia...

[Flatoutnos]

I had an e8500 and it performed great in anything. I actually had it pared with my gtx 780ti for a while. The only thing I noticed that was restricted as far as the cpu went was that I was unable to a L.A. Noire.

[seiny]

I had an e8500 and it performed great in anything. I actually had it pared with my gtx 780ti for a while. The only thing I noticed that was restricted as far as the cpu went was that I was unable to a L.A. Noire.

You had a 780ti on the lga 775 board? How does that work?

[activated1]

Why wouldn't it work? The CPU will bottleneck the 780 though but it will work.

[seiny]

Why wouldn't it work? The CPU will bottleneck the 780 though but it will work.

I thought PCIe 3.0 cards weren't backward compatible with PCIe 1.0 slots.. Looks like I was wrong   I looked it up on wikipedia the other day, maybe I didn't read the whole thing

[activated1]

There are LGA 775 boards with PCI-e 2.0

 

And some 3.0 card do work in 1.0 slots

[FireFox]

My GTX 650 Ti and GTX 660 are Gen 3.0 but my board is Gen 2.0 and they work perfectly fine. Also my brothers old Asus X38 is paired with a Gen 3.0 GTX 760 and works perfectly fine.