Steam should-

[Syntaxvgm]

Incentivize developers to make games compatible with linux by taking a lower percentage of sales, say 5% less or something.
THAT would get steam OS going. It would be easy to expand the steam Linux library with this.

EDIT

I did not mean linux exclusive.

Another edit-
Stop complaining about the GPU drivers in linux. You can't incentivize AMD and NVIDIA to make better ones. The more games that run on linux and the more gamers that use it, the more attention they will pay to drivers for it.

[AlwaysFSX]

How about give an incentive to have drivers made for Linux so graphic cards actually work to their full potential.

[DoubleY]

meh. most people still don't care about Linux though. Nor to most people want to learn another OS. 

 

But, I see your point.

[Askew]

Why would Valve do that (from a business perspective) when they could continue raking in a much higher percentage of countless more sales on Windows and the driver situation is still terrible on Linux from the GPU vendors?

[DoubleY]

How about give an incentive to have drivers made for Linux so graphic cards actually work to their full potential.

My drivers just didn't work... period. I was running Ubuntu and for the life of me couldn't get drivers to work on my 780. Installation would fail every time.

[AlwaysFSX]

My drivers just didn't work... period. I was running Ubuntu and for the life of me couldn't get drivers to work on my 780. Installation would fail every time.

And that's why we haven't all converted to Linux.

[Syntaxvgm]

I did not mean linux exclusive.

[Builder]

Why would Valve do that (from a business perspective) when they could continue raking in a much higher percentage of countless more sales on Windows and the driver situation is still terrible on Linux from the GPU vendors?

I've never had issues with Linux GPU drivers. Better experience than Windows, actually.

 

My drivers just didn't work... period. I was running Ubuntu and for the life of me couldn't get drivers to work on my 780. Installation would fail every time.

Shame. Maybe next time.

[Syntaxvgm]

How about give an incentive to have drivers made for Linux so graphic cards actually work to their full potential.

there are open source drivers from the community. And even with AMD's official drivers, I get less issues than windows. That's more of a AMDs fault thing than a linux is better thing.

[ForsakenLive]

there are open source drivers from the community. And even with AMD's official drivers, I get less issues than windows. That's more of a AMDs fault thing than a linux is better thing.

The Open Source drivers from the community can't even compete with a real driver, developed through years by the manufacturer.

Both Nvidia and AMD have horrible drivers, on some GPUs I can make things run perfectly fine, but on others it was a nightmare (including both AMD and Nvidia). Intel is not out of the party either, with the HD3000 graphics I had plenty of issues trying to game. Even if the drivers on that GPU work, the performance is no near close to windows.

 

Until the GPU makers don't get it going, the developers won't be motivated to bring AAA titles on Linux.

[Builder]

The Open Source drivers from the community can't even compete with a real driver, developed through years by the manufacturer.

Both Nvidia and AMD have horrible drivers, on some GPUs I can make things run perfectly fine, but on others it was a nightmare (including both AMD and Nvidia). Intel is not out of the party either, with the HD3000 graphics I had plenty of issues trying to game. Even if the drivers on that GPU work, the performance is no near close to windows.

 

Until the GPU makers don't get it going, the developers won't be motivated to bring AAA titles on Linux.

Dude, I've been gaming for years with graphics cards in and out and had no trouble. Nvidia at least provides proprietary drivers. I can't say the same for AMD though it's a possibility.

 

Intel graphics have always been stable with Linux. Sounds like you've had some bad luck.

[ForsakenLive]

Dude, I've been gaming for years with graphics cards in and out and had no trouble. Nvidia at least provides proprietary drivers. I can't say the same for AMD though it's a possibility.

 

Intel graphics have always been stable with Linux. Sounds like you've had some bad luck.

From several of the GPUs I used on linux, I have a GT 430 and a HD 7750, that work perfectly, and in some games performed even better than the windows version. Both Nvidia and AMD provide proprietary drivers for Linux. Other GPUs that I tested experienced a lot of problems on games.

Intel works really good, but as the HD graphics are getting better, you can use them to game on certain games properly. With HD 4000, the games look like they were working solid, they were totally playable at low settings. However with the HD 3000 graphics, I saw a ton of people not being able to play (including me).

 

But this is not how it's supposed to work, all three companies making GPUs must have adequate working drivers for all their products, not just a couple of them, but all.

[ericlee30]

I persoanly would like to see this.

[Syntaxvgm]

From several of the GPUs I used on linux, I have a GT 430 and a HD 7750, that work perfectly, and in some games performed even better than the windows version. Both Nvidia and AMD provide proprietary drivers for Linux. Other GPUs that I tested experienced a lot of problems on games.

Intel works really good, but as the HD graphics are getting better, you can use them to game on certain games properly. With HD 4000, the games look like they were working solid, they were totally playable at low settings. However with the HD 3000 graphics, I saw a ton of people not being able to play (including me).

 

But this is not how it's supposed to work, all three companies making GPUs must have adequate working drivers for all their products, not just a couple of them, but all.

Let me stop you right there. I've used TONS of different gpus with linux, and never had a problem. Especially with nvidia. I've had AMD problems here and there with stability on certian cards, but the community drivers work just fine. And they perform just fine. I've never heard this complain before. Am I missing something? 

Also, the larger gaming market share linux gets, the more attention AMD and NVIDIA will pay to it. 

[Builder]

From several of the GPUs I used on linux, I have a GT 430 and a HD 7750, that work perfectly, and in some games performed even better than the windows version. Both Nvidia and AMD provide proprietary drivers for Linux. Other GPUs that I tested experienced a lot of problems on games.

Intel works really good, but as the HD graphics are getting better, you can use them to game on certain games properly. With HD 4000, the games look like they were working solid, they were totally playable at low settings. However with the HD 3000 graphics, I saw a ton of people not being able to play (including me).

 

But this is not how it's supposed to work, all three companies making GPUs must have adequate working drivers for all their products, not just a couple of them, but all.

Like I said, I've never had an issue with it.

 

I persoanly would like to see this.

No offense dude, but I think I've seen you spell personally "persoanly" several times now. Would you mind watching the keyboard a bit?

[ForsakenLive]

Let me stop you right there. I've used TONS of different gpus with linux, and never had a problem. Especially with nvidia. I've had AMD problems here and there with stability on certian cards, but the community drivers work just fine. And they perform just fine. I've never heard this complain before. Am I missing something? 

Also, the larger gaming market share linux gets, the more attention AMD and NVIDIA will pay to it. 

I hope they put more effort on them too.

I talk from personal experience, even getting help from much much better linux users than me, it still would have problems, ,performing bad on some games, having issues on some others, or being unstable. Apparently the thing varies according to what GPU it is.

[Syntaxvgm]

I hope they put more effort on them too.

I talk from personal experience, even getting help from much much better linux users than me, it still would have problems, ,performing bad on some games, having issues on some others, or being unstable. Apparently the thing varies according to what GPU it is.

Make bug reports if it's bad. I'm serious it helps, as there is not a large enough user base in some cases to catch everything. The OEM AMD driver for my xfire 6970ms causes artifacts around windows frequently after sleep mode. Otherwise they work ok. Only bad example I have. So I use the community ones. Or just restart the driver. The community ones almost always work. Problems are common, and commonly resolved after being reported. Thing is there are not many people running 6970ms on linux, with OEM drivers at that.

[ericlee30]

No offense dude, but I think I've seen you spell personally "persoanly" several times now. Would you mind watching the keyboard a bit?

Nope, Im just a bad speller and you are going to have to just deal with that lol, No offense but this is not a spelling competition or a grammer class

 

But I will tell you what I will do, when I get a little free time, I will work on figuring out why spell check stopped working on LTT for me, it works fine on any other site but for some odd reason, it stopped working for me on LTT. Between work,my wife and kids I have not really had the time to figure out the problem.

[Syntaxvgm]

Nope, Im just a bad speller and you are going to have to just deal with that lol, No offense but this is not a spelling competition or a gramor class

 

But I will tell you what I will do, when I get a little free time, I will work on figuring out why spell check stopped working on LTT for me, it works fine on any other site but for some odd reason, it stopped work for me on LTT. Between work,my wife and kids I have not really had the time to figure out the problem.

*grammar

just kidding im not a dick.

[ericlee30]

*grammar

just kidding im not a dick.

Fixed lol, its cool bro, I used to be a pretty good speller, for a while now, I have relied so much on spell check, that my spelling has just gone straight down the tubes.

[Builder]

Nope, Im just a bad speller and you are going to have to just deal with that lol, No offense but this is not a spelling competition or a grammer class

 

But I will tell you what I will do, when I get a little free time, I will work on figuring out why spell check stopped working on LTT for me, it works fine on any other site but for some odd reason, it stopped working for me on LTT. Between work,my wife and kids I have not really had the time to figure out the problem.

I wasn't attacking you personally, I just find it strange when someone spells the same word wrong in exactly the same way several times. It annoys me a bit.

[Syntaxvgm]

Fixed lol, its cool bro, I used to be a pretty good speller, for a while now, I have relied so much on spell check, that my spelling has just gone straight down the tubes.

Oh yea me too. Combine that with lazy typing I have to make a lot of corrections.

[ericlee30]

I wasn't attacking you personally, I just find it strange when someone spells the same word wrong in exactly the same way several times. It annoys me a bit.

I know you were not attacking me bro just pointing it out.  I just gave a blunt honest answer, no pun intended.

[ericlee30]

Oh yea me too. Combine that with lazy typing I have to make a lot of corrections.

LOL, yeah when spell check does work, I have to go back and almost correct everything. I wish I had not started relying on spell check so much. You know its bad, when you own wife makes fun of the way you spell lol.

[Syntaxvgm]

LOL, yeah when spell check does work, I have to go back and almost correct everything. I wish I had not started relying on spell check so much. You know its bad, when you own wife makes fun of the way you spell lol.

I think what did it for me is I write fast and when I started college I didn't focus on spelling I just focused on getting papers done, focusing more on content than keeping up my spelling. I think in 20 years no one will be able to spell.