Dac/amp/aux switch?

[Builder]

 

Creative is considered to have the best surround software implementation^{[citation needed]}

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1014902/ocns-most-recommended-audio-products

[EmoRarity]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1014902/ocns-most-recommended-audio-products

OCN's opinion, 2011, OCN's ass.

[Builder]

OCN's opinion, 2011, OCN's ass.

You do realize it gets updated, right?

[EmoRarity]

You do realize it gets updated, right?

Someone doesn't write many citions.

[Guest]

Someone doesn't write many citions.

 

I guess the schools are letting the kids just copypasta rando forum posts into their Bibliographies now.

[Builder]

Someone doesn't write many citions.

Someone doesn't know how to spell.

 

I guess the schools are letting the kids just copypasta rando forum posts into their Bibliographies now.

This isn't an academic paper, it's a tech forum. Audio is very subjective but that article does not treat it as such. If you would actually read it instead of trolling me you might learn something.

[Guest]

This isn't an academic paper, it's a tech forum. Audio is very subjective but that article does not treat it as such. If you would actually read it instead of trolling me you might learn something.

 

"The sound card has a ~150 ohm amplifier on it"

 

I highly doubt I'd learn anything from reading the rest.

[Builder]

"The sound card has a ~150 ohm amplifier on it"

 

I highly doubt I'd learn anything from reading the rest.

And?

 

We've thoroughly derailed the discussion and the OP is disinterested. Let's end this, shall we?

[Guest]

And?

 

We've thoroughly derailed the discussion and the OP is disinterested. Let's end this, shall we?

 

Why? The OP's question was answered ages ago.

 

Whoever wrote that "article" is clearly poorly informed about audio, at best. That is not how you specify the power of an amp.

[Builder]

Why? The OP's question was answered ages ago.

 

Whoever wrote that "article" is clearly poorly informed about audio, at best. That is not how you specify the power of an amp.

How would you specify it?

 

Ordinarily amps are specified by the resistance of the largest speaker they can drive.

[Guest]

How would you specify it?

 

Ordinarily amps are specified by the resistance of the largest speaker they can drive.

 

That's how marketing divisions like to specify amps. In reality, an amplifier has three characteristics: power, voltage, and current. Additionally, these vary with the impedance of the load. So you really cannot sum up an amp with just one number. Also an important consideration is the output impedance of the amplifier; if it is too high there may be impedance mismatching with some headphones, leading to damping factor problems.

[ShearMe]

Ordinarily amps are specified by the resistance of the largest speaker they can drive.

 

Speaker amps, yes. Headphone amps, no. 

 

The standard spec list format is the power output @ 32ohms.

[EmoRarity]

Someone doesn't know how to spell.

 

This isn't an academic paper, it's a tech forum. Audio is very subjective but that article does not treat it as such. If you would actually read it instead of trolling me you might learn something.

A, tablet autocorrect and that face when.

B, Audio is science, and can be approached as such. 

 

I guess the schools are letting the kids just copypasta rando forum posts into their Bibliographies now.

[Shaoty]

The syba dac has a little button on the front. I'm not really 100% sure what it does, but I assume it's some sort of toggle. Never plugged any speakers into it.

[Builder]

That's how marketing divisions like to specify amps. In reality, an amplifier has three characteristics: power, voltage, and current. Additionally, these vary with the impedance of the load. So you really cannot sum up an amp with just one number. Also an important consideration is the output impedance of the amplifier; if it is too high there may be impedance mismatching with some headphones, leading to damping factor problems.

I understand electrical engineering. I've just never seen amplifiers specified as anything but resistance.

 

Speaker amps, yes. Headphone amps, no. 

 

The standard spec list format is the power output @ 32ohms.

I didn't realize it was different for headphones.

 

I think it's prudent to note at this point that I'm not an audiophile nor do I claim to be. I bought the sound card to get Creative's surround sound engine (software) and it was a good deal. It's also much better shielded than my onboard is. 

[Guest]

I understand electrical engineering. I've just never seen amplifiers specified as anything but resistance.

 

Fine. Then you'll also know that the power requirements of a headphone are determined by more than just impedance - namely, sensitivity. So giving an impedance as the specification of an amp is doubly oversimplifying things.

 

 

I think it's prudent to note at this point that I'm not an audiophile nor do I claim to be.

 

Don't care. Me neither.

[Builder]

Fine. Then you'll also know that the power requirements of a headphone are determined by more than just impedance - namely, sensitivity. So giving an impedance as the specification of an amp is doubly oversimplifying things.

 

Don't care. Me neither.

As in I don't know jack shit about audio. I know that the things you are saying are true, from an engineering standpoint, I just don't know the specification conventions of audio products.

[EmoRarity]

[Guest]

As in I don't know jack shit about audio. I know that the things you are saying are true, from an engineering standpoint, I just don't know the specification conventions of audio products.

 

Like ShearMe said, the conventions is to state the power output at 32 ohms. Like I said, that really doesn't tell you a whole lot.

 

 

-snippsters-

 

cya

[Builder]

Like ShearMe said, the conventions is to state the power output at 32 ohms. Like I said, that really doesn't tell you a whole lot.

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What do you expect me to say? Now I know? I was not aware of that?

[Guest]

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What do you expect me to say? Now I know? I was not aware of that?

 

If you like.

[EmoRarity]

10/10 censorship.

[Guest]

10/10 censorship.

 

excellent yay

[Timmyfox]

I'm not saying sound quality, but have you actually tried a good sound card? The difference is night and day with positional cues.

Xonar D2X

Xonar Essence STX

Dolby Headphone

DTS Connect

"Headphone" setting inside the game

 

I've tried all those and both my HD598 and HD650 surely have the best positional accuracy when skipping any virtual nonsense. The HD650 to me has such precise positional accuracy by itself that there's no need for any fancy software.

[Builder]

Xonar D2X

Xonar Essence STX

Dolby Headphone

DTS Connect

"Headphone" setting inside the game

 

I've tried all those and both my HD598 and HD650 surely have the best positional accuracy when skipping any virtual nonsense. The HD650 to me has such precise positional accuracy by itself that there's no need for any fancy software.

The AD700 are really good at positional accuracy too. Don't expect any bass though.