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Hello everyone!

 

So I'm completely new to pc building, but I decided I want to build a great all around PC that I will be able to game, stream, record, and edit video on. At this point, I'm torn between starting off with an i5 4690k or the i7 4790k. I do plan on doing a little overclocking at some point, and I'm currently attempting to keep it a red and black color scheme (willing to sacrifice for performance, though).  For the mobo, I definitely want the z97 chipset, probably Asus or MSI, but I thought some feedback here would be helpful.

 

I'm starting off with the Corsair Carbide 300R windowed. I know that limits my water cooling options, but I would like to have some sort of water cooling, hopefully a closed loop like the Corsair H80i. OR, should I go with a nicer air cooler? I'm not super worried about airflow because this case is very open and has room for LOTS of fans.

 

Another place that I don't have a clue where to begin is with the graphics card. I have read multiple reviews, and reports on what you should and shouldn't do with video cards, but I think that I will probably need to get a decent card or two cards for this build. I'm likely only going to use two monitors with a potential for a third down the road, so that may also affect the GPU decision.

 

As far as storage goes, I know I'm getting an SSD and a HDD, just waiting to see what I can afford once I get the other pieces :).

 

Here's what I have so far:

-Corsair Carbide 300R (windowed)

- G. Skill TridentX DDR3 2400 (2x4)

 

 

This build is still essentially a blank slate, so I am open to all feedback and ideas. Looking to keep the computer build (before peripherals) between $900-$1100.

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Assuming that I don't have to subtract from the parts you've already acquired with that budget I've picked this as the most optimal system with your style of choice in mind. I also didn't see your location so I'll assume you're from US since you used the dollar sign.

 

If you wan't an Nvidia graphics card in order to have higher performance/watt efficiency and lower thermals or Nvidia's features over AMD a GTX 770 can be swapped out for a slightly lower price than the r9 290 although the 290 is much better in terms of price to performance. I choose the 4690k as the i7 4790k just isn't all that necessary for a this budget. The Crucial MX100 SSD is the best in terms of GB/Dollar/Performance. That power supply was picked assuming you aren't going to be doing Crossfire or SLI anytime soon. The ASRock Z97 board is the most fully featured at this price there are a few coming DOA but just RMA it and you'll be fine. Also don't quote me on this but you might not be able to SLI and use M.2 SSDs at the simultaneously since it uses that as a PCIE connection. That said I don't think you can really utilized the spend of an M.2 SSD or really want to buy it due its price point, nor are they really available. I know you wanted better cooling but I think you should bide your time and save up a little more to make it part of an upgrade in the future.

 

The particular build below can still fit a nice aftermarket cooler for the CPU. If you want to stay in budget I'd suggest the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, not the greatest looking one but cheap and performs excellent. If you want to be about 10 dollars over budget the Corsair H60 is isn't a bad option. Personally I like the NZXT Kraken X61 since it looks awesome and blows all other AIO (all in one) water coolers out the water.  http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/147-kraken-x61-liquid-cooler.html

 

 
Motherboard: ASRock Z97X KILLER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($389.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1056.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
Here's an alternative with Nvidia graphics and a water cooler for your CPU. If you can squeeze in the budget I whole heartedly recommend the NZXT Kraken x61 as its performance kicks ass and looks better with better control software.  http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/147-kraken-x61-liquid-cooler.html
 
 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ TigerDirect) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z97X KILLER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($324.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1041.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Motherboard: ASRock Z97X KILLER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($389.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1056.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
 

This build is great, I would suggest the exact same thing, but buy the Windows key from G2A and save a ton on that, get an air cooler the Shadow Rock 2 from Be Quiet! is an excellent piece that can be found for cheap.

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This build is great, I would suggest the exact same thing, but buy the Windows key from G2A and save a ton on that, get an air cooler the Shadow Rock 2 from Be Quiet! is an excellent piece that can be found for cheap.

 

I was thinking about adding a cheap air cooler but I saw he wanted a good aftermarket cooler and if I did that immediately it'd be over budget, albeit not by much. Plus I think he really wanted a liquid cooler because they're easy on the eyes. I should edit my post and add that.

You gotta do you girl. I always say you gotta do you. And if he's doing him, then who's doing you? Because right now, it seems like no one's doing you.

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Yes, I'm in the U.S.  Also, the cost of windows is not a factor because I get it for about $5 as a student :).

 

So how does the Asrock compare to the MSI Gaming-5? 

 

And yeah, I should have clarified... This budget is for the remaining pieces that I need to buy.

 

Thanks for the help!

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Yes, I'm in the U.S.  Also, the cost of windows is not a factor because I get it for about $5 as a student :).

 

So how does the Asrock compare to the MSI Gaming-5? 

 

And yeah, I should have clarified... This budget is for the remaining pieces that I need to buy.

 

Thanks for the help!

Oh holy crap five bucks I can make some real changes with that. As for the motherboard, I'll start by saying I'm no Jonnyguru reviewer with any pc part as Johnnyguru is with power supplies which  are super in depth reviews. But I can say that the ASRock motherboards have more features cheap for a reason as they shortcut a few features and their BIOS is meh. MSI's board didn't shortcut on features and still provide everything necessary. Although at this point the crux of the matter is moot. I honestly don't believe you'll be running SATA express or M.2 so that's out the window and if you do run those I read you can't SLI on ASRock's motherboard, although I only read that for the Extreme 6 it probably applies to all the ones below that price and this includes the motherboard I recommend to you. In other words the Gaming 5 might be better if you don't care about having SATA Express and care to pay a slightly higher cost.

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@Cochran53,

 

DDR3-2400 is not worth it unless it has good latency and is only a couple $ more expensive than DDR3-1600 CL9.

 

An AIO cpu cooler is an expensive option. The money is better spent elsewhere in the build.

 

You don't need multiple GPU. Simply save up and buy a more powerful one when new models arrive.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($284.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $997.85

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So I completely rethought your build since you don't really need to include an OS price since you get it for five dollars. The only difference here is the SSD. I figured you'd want to store all your programs and games there so you don't have to use the HDD that much and doubling the space and increasing the performance by a bit only costs 30 dollars more so I added that. Again the Crucial MX100 is just awesome for price to performance to gigabyte ratio.

 

I'm not gonna lie, I'm quite attached to the NZXT Kraken X61 since the performance is the best and I think it looks the coolest with its RGB logo and awesome software. But if you really don't want to spend that much and still get similar performance I once again recommend the Corsair H60 (about $70) or perhaps the Kraken X41 (about $100) if you dig the Kraken as much as I do. 

 

 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($142.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($324.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1079.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($142.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($389.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1144.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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- Stefani Stilton (she / her) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

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Thanks for the help! It is really appreciated!

 

As for the DDR3, the only reason I bought the 2400 was because I caught the shell shocker deal on Newegg, so it was the same/lower price than a lot of the 1600 ram.

 

I misunderstood the OP. Are you including the case and memory you have already purchased in the budget or is the budget for the remaining items?

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The budget that I listed does not include what I already purchased. It is only for the remaining items.

 

A few changes to the build I previously posted.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($73.24 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00)

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.92 @ Amazon)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card  ($391.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Micro Center)

Total: $1082.11

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So, I just picked up a couple pieces. I spent just over $250 and got the Asrock z97 fata1ity KillerX and the Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD.  So really that leaves the graphics card, HDD, Power supply, and the CPU. I'm going to try to wait a little bit and catch the CPU/Graphics cards on sale.  

 

Thanks for the input! If you have any other suggestions, please let me know!

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Hey Guys,

 

So I have another couple of questions about this build. I'm worried about the size of the case and putting in water coolers. The rear fan is only 120mm and there is very little clearance between the top of the case and the motherboard. I am currently between the Kraken X41, X61, H80i, and H60. Any suggestions on what would be the best option/how to fit these in the 300r?

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Hey Guys,

 

So I have another couple of questions about this build. I'm worried about the size of the case and putting in water coolers. The rear fan is only 120mm and there is very little clearance between the top of the case and the motherboard. I am currently between the Kraken X41, X61, H80i, and H60. Any suggestions on what would be the best option/how to fit these in the 300r?

Well I can't confirm this but Corsair's website says that it supports 280mm/240mm radiators at the top, so it should at least support Corsair's Corsair's h100i. The NZXT x61 is just as slim as the h100i. The rear only supports 120mm radiators but the thickness is pretty much infinite so long as it doesn't touch the motherboard heat sinks. So probably everything except the x41 will fit. But that x41 might still fit at the top with one fan, although don't quote me on that.

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Well I can't confirm this but Corsair's website says that it supports 280mm/240mm radiators at the top, so it should at least support Corsair's Corsair's h100i. The NZXT x61 is just as slim as the h100i. The rear only supports 120mm radiators but the thickness is pretty much infinite so long as it doesn't touch the motherboard heat sinks. So probably everything except the x41 will fit. But that x41 might still fit at the top with one fan, although don't quote me on that.

Yeah, There are definitely mounts for the radiator/fans on top. My only concern is fitting them in with the mother board. It looks like there is enough room for one or the other without modifications. From what I've seen there tends to be an issue with the fans and radiator both fitting inside the case (Looks like RAM might get in the way).

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Yeah, There are definitely mounts for the radiator/fans on top. My only concern is fitting them in with the mother board. It looks like there is enough room for one or the other without modifications. From what I've seen there tends to be an issue with the fans and radiator both fitting inside the case (Looks like RAM might get in the way).

I was thinking the something about the RAM but I couldn't find anything that it said it could or couldn't.

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Hey Guys,

 

So I have another couple of questions about this build. I'm worried about the size of the case and putting in water coolers. The rear fan is only 120mm and there is very little clearance between the top of the case and the motherboard. I am currently between the Kraken X41, X61, H80i, and H60. Any suggestions on what would be the best option/how to fit these in the 300r?

 

The 300R doesn't fit top mounted radiators comfortably, especially with motherboards that have largish heat sinks or risers along the "top" edge of the motherboard. I would advise against a top mount radiator.

 

There should be no problem mounting a 120mm radiator on the rear exhaust. The long edge of the radiator would mount parallel to the motherboard so side clearance would not matter.

 

Check out post #92 at http://www.overclock.net/t/1307044/official-corsair-300r-owners-fan-club-and-guide-post-build-logs-and-mods/90. Note how close the 25mm top fans come to the edge of the motherboard. You can also see that an h80i fits comfortably on the rear exhaust. Although it's tight with top mounted fans.

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The 300R doesn't fit top mounted radiators comfortably, especially with motherboards that have largish heat sinks or risers along the "top" edge of the motherboard. I would advise against a top mount radiator.

 

There should be no problem mounting a 120mm radiator on the rear exhaust. The long edge of the radiator would mount parallel to the motherboard so side clearance would not matter.

 

Check out post #92 at http://www.overclock.net/t/1307044/official-corsair-300r-owners-fan-club-and-guide-post-build-logs-and-mods/90. Note how close the 25mm top fans come to the edge of the motherboard. You can also see that an h80i fits comfortably on the rear exhaust. Although it's tight with top mounted fans.

This is perfect. So I can still mount top fans (they will be tight, but it's possible), and have water cooling!  

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Hey Guys! 

 

So I now have everything except my GPU and Monitors. I was doing some more research on the r9 290's suggested above and I saw that the XFX suggests no lower than a 750 watt power supply. Will my 650W EVGA  80+ Gold be sufficient?

 

Also, I got the H80i, which fits, but I can't put a top mounted fan above it very well. However, I could fit a 120 or 140mm fan above the RAM for an additional Exhaust. Should I get another case fan for extra exhaust?

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NGhrRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NGhrRB/by_merchant/
 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Micro Center) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($81.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.97 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($27.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($15.43 @ Mwave) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($15.43 @ Mwave) 
Total: $1277.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Hey Guys! 

 

So I now have everything except my GPU and Monitors. I was doing some more research on the r9 290's suggested above and I saw that the XFX suggests no lower than a 750 watt power supply. Will my 650W EVGA  80+ Gold be sufficient?

 

Also, I got the H80i, which fits, but I can't put a top mounted fan above it very well. However, I could fit a 120 or 140mm fan above the RAM for an additional Exhaust. Should I get another case fan for extra exhaust?

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NGhrRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NGhrRB/by_merchant/
 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Micro Center) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($81.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.97 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($27.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($15.43 @ Mwave) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($15.43 @ Mwave) 
Total: $1277.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I don't know why XFX has started to list 750W as the minimum for R9 290, 650W should be enough. However you can currently get an excellent EVGA 750W psu for about the same price, EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR. In fact there is a US$20 MIR which makes it an even better deal.

 

Fans are easily added. Why not wait and see if it is needed.

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I don't know why XFX has started to list 750W as the minimum for R9 290, 650W should be enough. However you can currently get an excellent EVGA 750W psu for about the same price, EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR. In fact there is a US$20 MIR which makes it an even better deal.

 

Fans are easily added. Why not wait and see if it is needed.

 

 

Hmm... interesting. I may have to return my 650. 

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Hey Guys! 

 

I appreciate all the help so far. So I just purchased my GPU and my monitor (I will post pictures once they come in). So, I'm considering getting some red neon light ing for the case and was wondering was people like. Anyway, here's my list for my 300r build.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

 

 

CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core $0.00 CPU Cooler Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid $0.00 Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 $0.00 Memory G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 $0.00 Storage Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD $0.00   Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM   Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE $0.00 Case Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower $0.00 Power Supply EVGA 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $0.00 Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $0.00 Monitor BenQ XL2411Z 24.0"   Case Fan Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm $0.00   Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm     Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm   Keyboard Corsair Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard   Mouse Razer Naga Hex Wired Laser
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