core i5

[Wiff]

Can i run all games without sitting at 100% usage with an core i5 haswell?

[Wiff]

i have an core i7 2,2 ghz in my laptop and i dont sit on 100% with BF4, but there is a difference between i5 and i7

 

Depends what games you play and what settings you play them on.

My i5 3570k @4.2GHz runs at 100% load when I play Battlefield 4 (High-Ultra) on Windows 8.1.

That's about the only game I can think of ^^

[The_Strict_Nein]

Can i run all games without sitting at 100% usage with an core i5 haswell?

 

Why do you want it to not run at 100% load?

 

In most games, the CPU will work as hard as possible in order to tell the graphics card what to render as fast as possible. I guess if you cap the FPS it won't work at 100% all the time, but then again anything like AI will also increase CPU usage.

 

I honestly can't think of a game on ANY CPU that won't max it out as much as possible

[Wiff]

i dont want to have it at 100% running, its just, i wanna get a mATX mobo with an i5 because there no good am3+ mATX boards, and wanted to know if i can run all games, btw. the GPU is the (high end) Asus gtx 560

[SpyRosL]

i5 running 100% on bf4? I don't think so.

 

My 3570k @4.7ghz + GTX770 on bf4, the cpu usage hovers around 65-75% and with some background applications.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Why do you want it to not run at 100% load?

 

In most games, the CPU will work as hard as possible in order to tell the graphics card what to render as fast as possible. I guess if you cap the FPS it won't work at 100% all the time, but then again anything like AI will also increase CPU usage.

 

I honestly can't think of a game on ANY CPU that won't max it out as much as possible

that is completely wrong, a CPU is not a GPU, it should not work at 100% load at any time...the CPU process what has to be processed for the game to run, the GPU is working to get the most frames rendered...having a CPU loaded at 100% means it can't process anything more and is about to be the weakest link.

[Izaya Orihara]

i dont want to have it at 100% running, its just, i wanna get a mATX mobo with an i5 because there no good am3+ mATX boards, and wanted to know if i can run all games, btw. the GPU is the (high end) Asus gtx 560

How in hell? THe GTX 560 is not highend at all. A 750 beats it. Also no it won't run at 100% as you will have a massive GPU bottleneck. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

and wanted to know if i can run all games, btw. the GPU is the (high end) Asus gtx 560

GTX 560 by today's standard is considered sub low-end...it will be the bottleneck in every game you play, the core i5 will not have the slightest trouble in the world feeding a weak gpu like that to capacity all day any day on any games at any settings.

[Mister Snow]

You will sooner reach 100% load on that GPU so your CPU will in most cases work under max load. Basically, GPU will bottleneck that CPU.  

[Wiff]

lol, it can run all games in 1080p and is faster then my laptop GPU (gt 750m), when we bought the pc in 2010 it was revolutionary fast.

[i_build_nanosuits]

lol, it can run all games in 1080p and is faster then my laptop GPU (gt 750m), when we bought the pc in 2010 it was revolutionary fast.

absolutely there is no denying that, but something modern like a GTX 780 or r9 290 for example is in order of magnitude faster than a GTX 560, we are talking 3 or 4 times faster at least...

 

Just as a reference, a GTX 560 has 336 cuda cores and a GTX 780 has 2304 cuda cores...do the maths.

i'm not telling you to buy a GTX 780, or that games will not run on a GTX 560, it's just to illustrate that there is no way you will be CPU bottlenecked in any way with an haswell i5...if it wont bottleneck a 780 it certainly not bottleneck a GTX 560...

[Mister Snow]

lol, it can run all games in 1080p and is faster then my laptop GPU (gt 750m), when we bought the pc in 2010 it was revolutionary fast.

You are comparing a desktop GPU with a laptop one so don't think your GPU is a beast because of that. It is fine and still able to drive games if you don't need max settings and 60 fps but it's getting old.

[Wiff]

absolutely there is no denying that, but something modern like a GTX 780 or r9 290 for example is in order of magnitude faster than a GTX 560, we are talking 3 or 4 times faster at least...

 

Just as a reference, a GTX 560 has 336 cuda cores and a GTX 780 has 2304 cuda cores...do the maths.

i'm not telling you to buy a GTX 780, or that games will not run on a GTX 560, it's just to illustrate that there is no way you will be CPU bottlenecked in any way with an haswell i5...if it wont bottleneck a 780 it certainly not bottleneck a GTX 560...

yes but i dont understand why people spend so much money on pcs.. I mean as long as you can run all games at 1080p without having fps drop 30 fps you are good to go with the gpu,

[i_build_nanosuits]

yes but i dont understand why people spend so much money on pcs.. I mean as long as you can run all games at 1080p without having fps drop 30 fps you are good to go with the gpu,

if 30 FPS is fluent gameplay for you then you are lucky...or you havnt experienced a full 60FPS HD gaming so far...it much smooter, i know for me at least it is, and i need 60FPs otherwise i fell it's not smooth. i can totaly tell when i get 57FPS instead of 60FPS at any time, but i know it's not apparently the same for everybody. For me it's painful when i have to turn down ANY setting in a game because i know the game wasnt intended to be played on medium or high, but ultra...and it's also a pain to not get 60FPS at any time...so i basicaly have to get the best hardware or otherwise i quickly qualify my experience as being crap...and i don,t play crap games....but i know we don't all see it that way.

[harrynowl]

I like to play the game how the developer intended it. 1080P 60FPS ultra.

 

GTX560 isn't massively high end but it isn't disgustingly slow. 

 

But to answer the original question yes. But some heavily threaded games (looking at you BF4) will sit your CPU at 100%.

 

And ideal situation is CPU 90% and GPU 100% as that means your system is balanced

[Wiff]

if 30 FPS is fluent gameplay for you then you are lucky...or you havnt experienced a full 60FPS HD gaming so far...it much smooter, i know for me at least it is, and i need 60FPs otherwise i fell it's not smooth. i can totaly tell when i get 57FPS instead of 60FPS at any time, but i know it's not apparently the same for everybody. For me it's painful when i have to turn down ANY setting in a game because i know the game wasnt intended to be played on medium or high, but ultra...and it's also a pain to not get 60FPS at any time...so i basicaly have to get the best hardware or otherwise i quickly qualify my experience as being crap...and i don,t play crap games....but i know we don't all see it that way.

i play many 1080p games with 60fps just some graphically not intense ones like LEague of Legends, okay now i dont play it not often anymore..

[Faceman]

i play many 1080p games with 60fps just some graphically not intense ones like LEague of Legends, okay now i dont play it not often anymore..

An i5 Haswell will be plenty to run all games if paired with a good GPU(most games are GPU dependent, although LoL really likes the strong cores of Intel)

 

I will be playing BF4 + Netflix + Web Browsing + Teamspeak/Skype/Ventrilo and only sit at 75-80% usage.  My i5 is OC'd to 4.7Ghz, so that plays a large part, but even at stock settings, you wont be hitting 100%.  The i5 is the perfect gaming CPU without being weak in any areas, and not being excessive in any areas.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-september-2013/10

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/111882-the-4670k-or-3570k-vs-8350-aggregate-comparison/

 

If at all possible, get the Devil's Canyon i5, because the overclocking is supposed to be much more consistent, and superior.  Available in stores on June 25th in U.S.

[Wiff]

An i5 Haswell will be plenty to run all games if paired with a good GPU(most games are GPU dependent, although LoL really likes the strong cores of Intel)

 

I will be playing BF4 + Netflix + Web Browsing + Teamspeak/Skype/Ventrilo and only sit at 75-80% usage.  My i5 is OC'd to 4.7Ghz, so that plays a large part, but even at stock settings, you wont be hitting 100%.  The i5 is the perfect gaming CPU without being weak in any areas, and not being excessive in any areas.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-september-2013/10

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/111882-the-4670k-or-3570k-vs-8350-aggregate-comparison/

 

If at all possible, get the Devil's Canyon i5, because the overclocking is supposed to be much more consistent, and superior.  Available in stores on June 25th in U.S.

yea lets see, i actually wanted tto get an amd cuz of the good price/performance, but the mATX mobos with AM3+ suck so hard

[i_build_nanosuits]

yea lets see, i actually wanted tto get an amd cuz of the good price/performance, but the mATX mobos with AM3+ suck so hard

if you need mATX stick with intel, get a core i3 haswell if the i5 cost too much for your budget, with the GPU you plan to use it won't make any difference a core i3 will feed a GTX 560 in any games all day long just like the core i5 would.

In fact i would even recommand you to get an mATX board with a core i3-4130 or similar and call it a day you would be very happy with that.

[Wiff]

nope i want to do some rendering too and maybe upgrade gpu later

[i_build_nanosuits]

nope i want to do some rendering too and maybe upgrade gpu later

fair enough, now you must ask yourself if youre going to overclock that i5, if you think you will then get the i5-4690k with a z97 motherboard, if not go with a lower endnon ''k'' cpu that fit your budget and an h81 or h97 chipset motherboard..

[Wiff]

fair enough, now you must ask yourself if youre going to overclock that i5, if you think you will then get the i5-4690k with a z97 motherboard, if not go with a lower endnon ''k'' cpu that fit your budget and an h81 or h97 chipset motherboard..

i just buy an mATX lga1150 board and use the included cooler