Choosing a GPU

[lfk]

I want to give my PC a modest GPU upgrade from a pretty old RX570.

 

GPU prices in Australia are insane so there is no chance of being able to afford the very latest with large amounts of ram.  we are talking over $3k.

 

Since i don't play AAA games im not so worried about that but it would be nice to have a decent enough card.  

 

There are a fewer cheaper RTX 5050 8GB options but also some ARC B580 options at 12GB.  Is the extra 4 GB worth it when I'm not playing huge games like COD?  More like Minecraft etc.  IM happy to pay the extra $50 for the 12GB if the ARC cards are worth it.

[aisle9]

I think it would be worth it there. How long have you held onto that RX 570? Do you want to hold on to your next card for the same length of time? If yes, then it's worth the added cost.

 

Only thing I'll suggest is that if an RX 9060 XT 16GB squeaks in anywhere near your budget, it's worth it. I have the boniest of bone stock versions, the PowerColor Reaper, and it's doing very well for me so far.

[MrSimplicity]

You'd be way better off getting a used mid-range card from one of the last couple generations over a low end card like a 5050. Though the performance improvement from the RX570 is substantial all the 50 models (2050, 3050, 4050) are all just basically E-Waste cards. I would look into finding a used 3070 at least or even a 4070 if can find one within your budget. Those will hold up just as long as that RX570 did if not longer. Vram for minecraft is only necessary if you're going hard into shaders and HD texture packs.

 

If you're dead set on the 2 options listed, the 5050 is technically better than the B580 other than the extra 4GB of Vram that it seems you probably really don't need.

[lfk]

Not dead set on the 5050 or the arc they just fit nicely with the budget.  I'm not concerned with either just if paying the extra $ for more vram on mid range games is really worth while.

 

Options with the budget are:

 

Various flavours of 8GB RTX 5050 cards (not sure how you choose a card when the GPU and the VRAM are all the same)

8GB Radeon RX7600

12GB Arc B580

8GB Radeon RX 9060 XT

8GB RTX 5060

8GB RTX 4060

VERY VERY TOP of the budget - 16GB Radeon RX 90060 XT (although I'm not sure it will fit) and defiantly require a PSU upgrade also so that puts it over budget

 

 

[MrSimplicity]

Well, if you can swing the 9060, that's the best one you can get out of the list. Just from GPU Benchmark numbers alone the 9060 is almost a 300% performance increase over the RX570 and the 5050 is about 100%. So if you wanna stay on the lower end, a 5060 is your best bet, if you can get a better price on a 4060 it's only slightly better than a 5050. But if you want to stay on track as you have and have a PC that will stick around for many years that 9060 should last over a decade if your gaming load stays low and would give you enough head room to venture out of that. and extra $200US now will save you from having to pay another $400 in 5 years.

[venomtail]

It'd be a showdown between B580 and the 9060XT, the rest are meh and uncompetitive at MSRP pricerange. 9060XT likely costs a bit more but better driver compatability for a casual might be worth it.

 

NVIDIA has an insane brand premium on its products, no matter how low end the actual product is.

Edited April 27 by venomtail
oopsies I guess I leaked a non existant 9080XT /s

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

It'd be a showdown between B580 and the 9080XT, the rest are meh and uncompetitive at MSRP pricerange. 9080XT likely costs a bit more but better driver compatability for a casual might be worth it.

 

NVIDIA has an insane brand premium on its products, no matter how low end the actual product is.

9060xt, you mean?

[venomtail]

13 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

9060xt, you mean?

Oopsies, I'm living in a world of imaginary GPU's.

[alexsan147]

i think 8GB RTX 5060

[Dedayog]

11 hours ago, lfk said:

I want to give my PC a modest GPU upgrade from a pretty old RX570.

 

GPU prices in Australia are insane so there is no chance of being able to afford the very latest with large amounts of ram.  we are talking over $3k.

 

Since i don't play AAA games im not so worried about that but it would be nice to have a decent enough card.  

 

There are a fewer cheaper RTX 5050 8GB options but also some ARC B580 options at 12GB.  Is the extra 4 GB worth it when I'm not playing huge games like COD?  More like Minecraft etc.  IM happy to pay the extra $50 for the 12GB if the ARC cards are worth it.

I'd look at a minimum of a 9060XT 16BB or 5060Ti 16GB, if you want longevity.  While we can't say anything will be viable in 5 years with all the software and AI features ramping up hard, they will definitely be viable longer than their 8GB counterparts.

 

Basically, you can render frames faster with a pen and paper than a 5050 8GB card.  Skip that shit.

[Tetras]

13 hours ago, lfk said:

I want to give my PC a modest GPU upgrade from a pretty old RX570.

What is the rest of the PC?

 

This is important when considering something like Arc, because it requires rebar to operate effectively in games.

 

10 hours ago, lfk said:

Options with the budget are:

 

Various flavours of 8GB RTX 5050 cards (not sure how you choose a card when the GPU and the VRAM are all the same)

8GB Radeon RX7600

12GB Arc B580

8GB Radeon RX 9060 XT

8GB RTX 5060

8GB RTX 4060

VERY VERY TOP of the budget - 16GB Radeon RX 90060 XT (although I'm not sure it will fit) and defiantly require a PSU upgrade also so that puts it over budget

5050 and 4060 are pretty much the same card, on performance and power usage. If you have a bad PSU, then a 5050 isn't a terrible pick, except for often being priced too close to the 5060.

 

7600 is a big chunk slower than the 9060 XT and lacks official FSR4 support. I'd personally discount this one, unless it is very cheap and/or a great model.

 

Arc B580 is decent performing (though more like a 4060 in raster, than a 5060) and has a modern feature set with av1, ray tracing and mfg. It also gains performance at higher resolutions (compared to competing cards), but performance can be inconsistent, especially with older games. It has been slowly creeping up in price, making it less attractive than before.

 

16GB 9060 XT is going to have the longest life, so well worth buying if you can afford it.

 

I'd pick the 9060 variants if you have an older PC on PCIE gen 3. I believe it uses the full 16 lanes and the driver overhead should be the lowest if trends continued from RDNA2/3.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

11 hours ago, lfk said:

Not dead set on the 5050 or the arc they just fit nicely with the budget.  I'm not concerned with either just if paying the extra $ for more vram on mid range games is really worth while.

 

Options with the budget are:

 

Various flavours of 8GB RTX 5050 cards (not sure how you choose a card when the GPU and the VRAM are all the same)

8GB Radeon RX7600

12GB Arc B580

8GB Radeon RX 9060 XT

8GB RTX 5060

8GB RTX 4060

VERY VERY TOP of the budget - 16GB Radeon RX 90060 XT (although I'm not sure it will fit) and defiantly require a PSU upgrade also so that puts it over budget

 

 

What is your current psu and cpu?

 

The 570 is a 150w ish card and the 9060xt is 160w so a psu replacement will not be neccesary though it might be for the following gpus im about to reccomend if you happen to have a really low wattage supply and/or a high power draw cpu

 

9060xt = 7700xt/6800 performance wise and used gpus are usually cheaper anyways so try for a used 6800xt/7800xt which will be abit faster whilst likely being a tad cheaper than the 9060xt, you may even be able to go for the 7900gre or 6900xt/6950xt if you find a good deal on one, or you could go the other way and get a used 6800 if you would rather save some cash

[venomtail]

1 hour ago, Tetras said:

What is the rest of the PC?

Good point we forgot. Even 5050 and 5060 suffer a lot from PCIE 3.0. AMD had the least loss, also less driver headroom for older CPU's than NVIDIA GPU's.

[lfk]

Ah there's a good point, the rest of the PC.  Well I'm working with an AM4 MOBO with an early Ryzen but will be upgrading to a reasonable CPU for my needs something like a AMD Ryzen 7 5700X.  Also going to upgrade ram to as much as I can afford.  Presently 16gb aiming for 32gb.

 

Wasn't really thinking of changing the MOBO however and it is only PCI Express 3.  Wil that really hurt me?  Remember its minecraft style games, not Cyberpunk