9070XT or 5080

[Chuckmiller1964]

In general, if you could get a 9070XT for $800 or a 5080 for $1000 which way would you go? And why? 

Try to keep your thoughts away from particular games/apps you may use that others may not. 

 

Let'er rip.

[porina]

5070 Ti. Don't ask what people would do then exclude what they would do. If you have a use case in mind, say it. People will judge it on what they consider more important to them.

[YoungBlade]

To me, RTX 50 series cards are worth a 15-20% premium at performance parity vs RX 9000 series cards, due to the feature set advantages. DLSS is in way more games than FSR 4. Heavy RT favors Nvidia still, which is definitely relevant at the $800+ price point.

 

So given that the RTX 5080 is already 20% faster, it is easily worth it over an $800 9070 XT. To me, this comparison isn't even close. If the 9070 XT is $800, then that's a terrible deal. I would be willing to pay even $1200 for the 5080 against that sort of trash pricing.

[Why_Me]

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Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE SFF GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $749.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[emosun]

43 minutes ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

Try to keep your thoughts away from particular games/apps you may use that others may not. 

well then you get whichever is cheaper seeing as ZERO apps will be run on it.

[Millios]

52 minutes ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

In general, if you could get a 9070XT for $800 or a 5080 for $1000 which way would you go? And why? 

Try to keep your thoughts away from particular games/apps you may use that others may not. 

 

Let'er rip.

Prices are wrong and you take out specifically what makes this debate worthwhile by taking out the scenarios that would lead to picking one over the other aka specific games and programms 

 

Really saying "X vs Y, why but dont mention the scenarios that justify your reasons" is just not a discussion 

[Chuckmiller1964]

My reason was this. Don't pick one card or the other because you play Space Monkey (I made up a title) and Space Monkey plays better on one card or the other when I don't play Space Monkey.

 

I gladly open the discussion to more specific thoughts for those who have a point. 

 

 

[Chuckmiller1964]

2 hours ago, YoungBlade said:

To me, RTX 50 series cards are worth a 15-20% premium at performance parity vs RX 9000 series cards, due to the feature set advantages. DLSS is in way more games than FSR 4. Heavy RT favors Nvidia still, which is definitely relevant at the $800+ price point.

 

So given that the RTX 5080 is already 20% faster, it is easily worth it over an $800 9070 XT. To me, this comparison isn't even close. If the 9070 XT is $800, then that's a terrible deal. I would be willing to pay even $1200 for the 5080 against that sort of trash pricing.

Good points for RTX over RX. 

[Millios]

45 minutes ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

My reason was this. Don't pick one card or the other because you play Space Monkey (I made up a title) and Space Monkey plays better on one card or the other when I don't play Space Monkey.

But why tho?
What games and apps you use can and pretty often do matter the most when choosing a card. 
There's 0 reason to exclude any possibility cause you choose what is tailored to your needs and budget when choosing anything

46 minutes ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

Good points for RTX over RT. 

I assume you mean RTX over RX  cause you cant choose RTX over RT as RT is just a lighting tech

[Chuckmiller1964]

3 minutes ago, Millios said:

...

I assume you mean RTX over RX  ...

Thanks, I corrected that. 

[jaslion]

30 minutes ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

My reason was this. Don't pick one card or the other because you play Space Monkey (I made up a title) and Space Monkey plays better on one card or the other when I don't play Space Monkey.

This doesn't work as well if you do 3d rendering amd is just not an option at all. There is also the valid reason of if you do certain tasks the most where one or the other pulls away by far then yeah that is obviously gonna matter.

 

Anyway for purely gaming this is a bit unfair as the 5080 is way more pricey and the 9070xt is a couple hundred cheaper by average.

 

The real price of the 9070xt and and 5080 make the choices also differ heaps there is no 5080 for 1000$ and no the scam asrock on newegg doesnt count

[porina]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

there is no 5080 for 1000$ and no the scam asrock on newegg doesnt count

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-5080-solid-core-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814500608

I'm not familiar with newegg but I saw this posted elsewhere where others link lower priced GPUs. Sold/shipped by newegg. I assume if it shows a price it is in stock and orderable, since if I click around some others just says "out of stock" with no price.

 

Ok, one isn't a great choice, but they are out there even if you have to look at the right place at the right time.

 

[Dedayog]

3 hours ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

My reason was this. Don't pick one card or the other because you play Space Monkey (I made up a title) and Space Monkey plays better on one card or the other when I don't play Space Monkey.

 

I gladly open the discussion to more specific thoughts for those who have a point. 

 

 

But why are we having this debate in a vacuum with made up prices?

 

Just so you can have a debate going on a forum?

 

Ask realistic questions.   

 

 

[Chuckmiller1964]

Made up prices? I didn't just pull these out of my ass.

 

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-5080-solid-core-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814500608?item=N82E16814500608&Source=socialshare&utm_campaign=snc-copy-link-_-sr-_-14-500-608-_-08172025&utm_campaign=snc-copy-link-_-sr-_-product-_-08172025&utm_medium=social&utm_source=copy-link

 

https://a.co/d/dLxcebq

 

[starsmine]

5070ti 16GB for less then the 9070xt if that is your pricing. the 9070xt isnt supposed to cost that much. 

[Millios]

3 hours ago, Chuckmiller1964 said:

Made up prices? I didn't just pull these out of my ass.

The point isn't that's it's made up.

It's that you cherry picked the most ideal 5080 price and one of the worst 9070xt prices.

Either take both at their ideals (or the best available) or at their average so we can at least have an honest conversation rather than skewed and half-baked convos

[Ha-Satan]

Even if we look at "real" pricing (i.e. best case scenario vs best case scenario), the 9070 XT actually kinda sucks (at least in the US). Like, the cheapest 9070 XT on PCPP right now is $700 and the cheapest 5070 ti is $750. Unless you're in an edge case where AMD is a genuinely better option than Nvidia (like if you'll be using it on Linux), then you should absolutely pay the extra and get the 5070 ti. It's much better at RT, at that will make a big difference in gaming performance after the next-gen consoles roll around here in a few years. The price difference is negligible when you consider this (and especially in the context of the cost of the full build).

 

My opinion would change if the cheap models of the 9070 XT come back into stock closer to the $600 "MSRP," but as long as they're sitting at or near $700 and the 5070 ti is $750, you should just get the 5070 ti.

 

 

[Millios]

8 hours ago, Ha-Satan said:

Even if we look at "real" pricing (i.e. best case scenario vs best case scenario), the 9070 XT actually kinda sucks (at least in the US). Like, the cheapest 9070 XT on PCPP right now is $700 and the cheapest 5070 ti is $750. Unless you're in an edge case where AMD is a genuinely better option than Nvidia (like if you'll be using it on Linux), then you should absolutely pay the extra and get the 5070 ti. It's much better at RT, at that will make a big difference in gaming performance after the next-gen consoles roll around here in a few years. The price difference is negligible when you consider this (and especially in the context of the cost of the full build).

 

My opinion would change if the cheap models of the 9070 XT come back into stock closer to the $600 "MSRP," but as long as they're sitting at or near $700 and the 5070 ti is $750, you should just get the 5070 ti.

 

 

I don't disagree but there are games and scenarios where the 9070xt rivals the 5080 rather than the 5070 Ti.

Unless you care about heavy RT (heavy specifically cause the 9000 series actually does fairly decently with some RT), frame gen and upscaling THAT much or do creative work (that requires or benefits from CUDA)  I'd personally still choose the 9070xt cause FSR 4 is solid (comparable is not somewhat better than DLSS 3.X), it offers decent creative performance for lighter tasks and Nvidia has been shitting the bed lately with drivers from what I've seen

[Ha-Satan]

7 hours ago, Millios said:

Unless you care about heavy RT (heavy specifically cause the 9000 series actually does fairly decently with some RT)

Well, I would argue that if you're buying a higher-end GPU for gaming in 2025, and assuming you want any longevity at all, heavy RT performance should be the most important thing in your purchasing decision.

 

That's because, like I said earlier, after the next-gen consoles launch here in a couple years, there will likely be a big leap up in the baseline level of RT performance around which new games are being designed. At that point I think the difference in heavy RT performance between the 9070 XT and the 5070 ti will start to become very relevant for all games.

 

Personally, if I were buying a new GPU in this price class today, I would want it to last a decent while after the next-gen consoles are launched, and if I were buying the 9070 XT I would be concerned that it would become obsolete as soon as the PS6 hits the shelves.

 

I also am concerned about the Nvidia driver situation but that's likely a temporary thing that will get improved relatively soon. 

[Millios]

2 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

Well, I would argue that if you're buying a higher-end GPU for gaming in 2025, and assuming you want any longevity at all, heavy RT performance should be the most important thing in your purchasing decision.

 

That's because, like I said earlier, after the next-gen consoles launch here in a couple years, there will likely be a big leap up in the baseline level of RT performance around which new games are being designed. At that point I think the difference in heavy RT performance between the 9070 XT and the 5070 ti will start to become very relevant for all games.

 

Personally, if I were buying a new GPU in this price class today, I would want it to last a decent while after the next-gen consoles are launched, and if I were buying the 9070 XT I would be concerned that it would become obsolete as soon as the PS6 hits the shelves.

 

I also am concerned about the Nvidia driver situation but that's likely a temporary thing that will get improved relatively soon. 

I see your points but you also are making a few leaps that I personally disagree with.

For one, I don't think games will force HEAVY RT. Some RT sure but not a stupidly large amount and the 9070xt will handle that more than fine.

I also don't agree with the belief that once the PS6 and whatever seriex Xbox is next that the 9070xt will fall behind cause the PS5 pro was around the 7000 series GPU time (Sony uses AMD rather than Nvidia iirc for their consoles) and their GPU equivalent were around the 6000 series or a lil over in terms of performance (slightly better in RT due to custom hardware but raw performance was as stated).

My main concern in buying a GPU that will last would be a) can it handle at least some RT (as opposed to HEAVY RT) and b)does it have adequate hardware and software (aka enough VRAM and stable enough drivers and tech like frame gen)

After that we can go back and forth about which would be a better deal from the cards brought up(at 750 the 5070 ti if the 9070xt is about 700+ cause on average it is slightly faster or equivalent and has Nvidias tech)