Future of cases???

[YaBuddyBoy]

Planning to starting building cases tired of the same none water cooling friendly cases and limited cases to 1 psu and other list of items I am not done yet but my rough idea. Hope I can get on on ltt but find that hard to believe it will happen 

[jaslion]

Isnt this just a o11 xl? Has dual psu support and is like mega watercooling friendly?

 

More power to yo for doigng it yourself!

[Millios]

Just now, YaBuddyBoy said:

 limited cases to 1 psu

... How many PSUs are you gonna use exactly?
 

[manikyath]

19 minutes ago, YaBuddyBoy said:

the same none water cooling friendly cases

you must be new to building computers if you think th ecurrent case market is not watercooling friendly...

 

i could pick this apart more, but i'll just keep it to this:

 

if you want enough of LTT's attention to get a video, you'll have to have more than a few screenshots of CAD software with something that appears to have some aspects of a computer case, but the layout is so incoherent it may as well be AI halucinating.

 

let me give you a protip from someone with actual experience building a custom case:

case layouts are the way they are for a reason. as it turns out standardization means stuff actually works together.

[podkall]

45 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Isnt this just a o11 xl? Has dual psu support and is like mega watercooling friendly?

 

More power to yo for doigng it yourself!

Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO

 

 

 

 

47 minutes ago, YaBuddyBoy said:

Planning to starting building cases tired of the same none water cooling friendly cases and limited cases to 1 psu and other list of items I am not done yet but my rough idea. Hope I can get on on ltt but find that hard to believe it will happen 

How many people out of 8billion on the planet will use more than 1 PSU?

[OhioYJ]

I'm actually having a case custom designed right now. The one thing I notice right away between your images, and the models that are being sent to me, is the "construction." In the models / designs I've been sent from the company I'm using, it's very clear how everything is assembled and will go together (this panel screws to that frame, MB tray is attached here, etc) It's all very detailed in their model, before any machining happens. 

 

Perhaps your model is before that stage. However not accounting for any of those things, could mean redoing lots of things later. 

[jaslion]

44 minutes ago, podkall said:

Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO

 

 

 

 

How many people out of 8billion on the planet will use more than 1 PSU?

Thanks yup that one.

[jaslion]

1 hour ago, manikyath said:

th ecurrent case market is not watercooling friendly...

I remember when having tube holes in cases so tubes could go to the outside radiators was an INSANE development for custom watercooling haha.

 

Yeah today watercooling is ez as can be. Just dont buy junk stuff, hell even bending acrylic isnt too hard with patience.

 

Since its just another o11 clone just get the o11 evo (thanks @podkall) and if you reallllllly wanna go easy mode slap a distro plate in it and you barely eveb have to think where what goes

 

Also like why 2 psu's? No gaming pc needs that. If this is a slap as many gpu's in one system thing well dont get a desktop case we got other stuff to do that proper.

 

Sides nothing makes sense here? Where does anything even go? Airflow? Theres no pathway for air to really follow its all kinda random

[manikyath]

54 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Also like why 2 psu's? No gaming pc needs that. If this is a slap as many gpu's in one system thing well dont get a desktop case we got other stuff to do that proper.

i have the option for dual power supplies in my server because i might want to have it across two circuits in the future so popping a breaker doesnt take out the system.. but i dont see how custom watercooling and a desire for redundancy overlap.

[Millios]

35 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i have the option for dual power supplies in my server because i might want to have it across two circuits in the future so popping a breaker doesnt take out the system.. but i dont see how custom watercooling and a desire for redundancy overlap.

Pls excuse my ignorance since I am not that familiar with servers but dont servers differ compared to normal PCs? (its also possible I'm confusing myself by just thinking the rack style ones so if I am let me know)
At least stracturally and functionally and they also draw a lot more power and use different PSUs?

 

To get the to the crux of my question as well without beating around the bush, isnt a server a special case if you may and a normal PC like the one OP wants to make a case for usually just with 1 PSU?

[KidKid]

4 hours ago, YaBuddyBoy said:

Planning to starting building cases tired of the same none water cooling friendly cases and limited cases to 1 psu and other list of items I am not done yet but my rough idea. Hope I can get on on ltt but find that hard to believe it will happen 

If you can create something incredible, reach out to LMG and hopefully you can get you and your prototype on LTT

[podkall]

3 hours ago, jaslion said:

Since its just another o11 clone just get the o11 evo (thanks @podkall) and if you reallllllly wanna go easy mode slap a distro plate in it and you barely eveb have to think where what goes

If you're a PC part company, you can also just copy design, and pretend like you've made something new.

 

Or "accidantely" copy a design. It's not hard though since cases need to follow form factors and can't be too creative in design.

 

O11 Dynamic EVO:

 

Antec C8:

 

Phanteks NV5 MKII:

 

Antec C3 ARGB:

[podkall]

2 hours ago, manikyath said:

i have the option for dual power supplies in my server because i might want to have it across two circuits in the future so popping a breaker doesnt take out the system.. but i dont see how custom watercooling and a desire for redundancy overlap.

why not this?

 

[Millios]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

If you're a PC part company, you can also just copy design, and pretend like you've made something new.

 

Or "accidantely" copy a design. It's not hard though since cases need to follow form factors and can't be too creative in design.

 

O11 Dynamic EVO:

 

Antec C8:

 

Phanteks NV5 MKII:

 

Antec C3 ARGB:

I'd say most industries do that specifically cause they need to work with other components that arent by the same company as you stated

Cars for example, cause since most engines are from a select few makers (toyota I believe makes most of the engines used by over 50% of all brands) and parts need to be able to fit together so you can have enough replacements and or mods working (unless we are in special cases like low-riders or monster trucks)

Clothing obviously as well

[podkall]

24 minutes ago, Millios said:

I'd say most industries do that specifically cause they need to work with other components that arent by the same company as you stated

Cars for example, cause since most engines are from a select few makers (toyota I believe makes most of the engines used by over 50% of all brands) and parts need to be able to fit together so you can have enough replacements and or mods working (unless we are in special cases like low-riders or monster trucks)

Clothing obviously as well

Of course, but cars don't look the same, PC cases on the other hand..

[Millios]

Just now, podkall said:

Of course, but cars don't look the same, PC cases on the other hand..

Not to the same degree obviously but to say they dont carry similarities is a bit of a strech...

And PC cases more often than not are a carbon copy ig with some exceptions like thermaltake or jonsbo who ACTUALLY make interesting stuff like the tower and or different colors other than black and white (the matcha green is an eye sore but at least its unique) or montech I believe made the leather covered case which again, looks awesome

[Pusbucket]

2 hours ago, Millios said:

Pls excuse my ignorance since I am not that familiar with servers but dont servers differ compared to normal PCs? (its also possible I'm confusing myself by just thinking the rack style ones so if I am let me know)
At least stracturally and functionally and they also draw a lot more power and use different PSUs?

 

To get the to the crux of my question as well without beating around the bush, isnt a server a special case if you may and a normal PC like the one OP wants to make a case for usually just with 1 PSU?

Depends on the scenario.

Small business servers are 75% of the time tower cases. What sets them apart from "household" pc's are mainly data redundancy; RAID setups with hot-swappable drives, ECC RAM and CPU, but they usually don't have redundant PSU's, or at least not by default.

You can get them with hot-swappable redundant PSU's if desired.

But essentially the "guts' are the same whether its a tower form factor or rackmount, although rack mounts are less power hungry because they are not using discreet graphics that gobble up 100's of watts.

[podkall]

26 minutes ago, Millios said:

Not to the same degree obviously but to say they dont carry similarities is a bit of a strech...

It's not a stretch, some cars don't even try to be aerodynamic, that's how unique they can get.

 

27 minutes ago, Millios said:

And PC cases more often than not are a carbon copy ig with some exceptions like thermaltake or jonsbo who ACTUALLY make interesting stuff like the tower and or different colors other than black and white (the matcha green is an eye sore but at least its unique) or montech I believe made the leather covered case which again, looks awesome

So how come only Montech has 903 design?

 

Only Corsair has 4000D and 3000D design?

 

Nobody is copying BeQuiet much either.

 

Fractal Design cases? Almost none of them seem to have resembling copy.

 

Lian-Li 216 and 215.

 

Even some cases so simple looking as NZXT cases.

[manikyath]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

why not this?

why not both? a solution for a power cut, and a solution for a breaker trip that doesnt absolutely wreck a set of lead-acid batteries each time it's used.

[manikyath]

3 hours ago, Millios said:

 

To get the to the crux of my question as well without beating around the bush, isnt a server a special case if you may and a normal PC like the one OP wants to make a case for usually just with 1 PSU?

that was my point, in a server there's reasons it makes sense, in a watercooled pc not so much.

[Millios]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

So how come only Montech has 903 design?

 

Only Corsair has 4000D and 3000D design?

 

Nobody is copying BeQuiet much either.

 

Fractal Design cases? Almost none of them seem to have resembling copy.

 

Lian-Li 216 and 215.

 

Even some cases so simple looking as NZXT cases.

"More often than not" not always (I'll avoid so obvious cases like the fishtanks) and montech I did praise cause they try new stuff as well

 

Fractal they actually do get copied and a lot so they have a lot of look alikes like this (I'll use my marketplace if you dont mind cause some cases I cant find online due to obscurity)

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/57602824/Zalman-P30-AIR-Mini-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-kai-ARGB-Fotismo-Leyko.html

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/48083929/Supercase-15A-Series-Odin-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Mayro.html

 

Be quiet has copied Lian Li (similar to the 216)

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/25745466/Be-Quiet-Silent-Base-802-Window-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-Mayro.html
 

Lian Li has made several copy cat cases like the 217 with the antec flux, the a3 looks like a mini fractal design north, the new o11 mini (at either computex or their showcase I cant recall with 100% certainty) is a (downsized) copy of the HAVN HS 420

 

Corsair is not without its copy cats too

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/41659628/Adata-XPG-Valor-AIR-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Leyko.html

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/48083963/Supercase-29a-Series-Ackerman-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-kai-RGB-Fotismo-Mayro.html

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/49003867/Darkflash-DF2100-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-kai-RGB-Fotismo-Leyko.html

 

And there are plenty of brands made as copy cats like raijintek, inter-tech, gamdias, armaggeddon, redragon, kolink to an extent etc etc

Really I just want to see case makers try new shapes, orientations, colors, materials etc etc

[Millios]

11 minutes ago, manikyath said:

that was my point, in a server there's reasons it makes sense, in a watercooled pc not so much.

Ahh ok ok got you

[podkall]

30 minutes ago, manikyath said:

why not both? a solution for a power cut, and a solution for a breaker trip that doesnt absolutely wreck a set of lead-acid batteries each time it's used.

Because UPS is kind of designed for brownouts, blackouts and power fluctuations in general?

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Millios said:

Fractal they actually do get copied and a lot so they have a lot of look alikes like this (I'll use my marketplace if you dont mind cause some cases I cant find online due to obscurity)

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/57602824/Zalman-P30-AIR-Mini-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-kai-ARGB-Fotismo-Leyko.html

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/48083929/Supercase-15A-Series-Odin-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Mayro.html

Never seen these cases

 

19 minutes ago, Millios said:

Be quiet has copied Lian Li (similar to the 216)

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/25745466/Be-Quiet-Silent-Base-802-Window-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-Mayro.html

That doesn't look anything like 216, it looks more like Lancool II/III black version, but even then it looks nothing like that.

 

20 minutes ago, Millios said:

Corsair is not without its copy cats too

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/41659628/Adata-XPG-Valor-AIR-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-Leyko.html

not a copy

 

20 minutes ago, Millios said:

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/48083963/Supercase-29a-Series-Ackerman-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-kai-RGB-Fotismo-Mayro.html

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/49003867/Darkflash-DF2100-Gaming-Midi-Tower-Kouti-Ypologisti-me-Plaino-Parathyro-kai-RGB-Fotismo-Leyko.html

Neither are these, but the first one or second one is Antec Flux copy.

 

24 minutes ago, Millios said:

And there are plenty of brands made as copy cats like raijintek, inter-tech, gamdias, armaggeddon, redragon, kolink to an extent etc etc

Really I just want to see case makers try new shapes, orientations, colors, materials etc etc

Me too, maybe something innovative like Montech or Phanteks have.

 

25 minutes ago, Millios said:

"More often than not" not always (I'll avoid so obvious cases like the fishtanks) and montech I did praise cause they try new stuff as well

You also said carbon copies, some of those aren't exact copies.

 

And I haven't really said cases don't get copied, I just said certain brands or design that are even popular and sell, aren't being copied.

[manikyath]

48 minutes ago, podkall said:

Because UPS is kind of designed for brownouts, blackouts and power fluctuations in general?

yes, except that most affordable home and office UPS'es dont do all that much for dirty power, and living in 230 volt land i'm not overly worried about grid voltage dropping because we've got a whole 140 volts to drop before a full range power supply goes out of spec.

[Millios]

52 minutes ago, podkall said:

Never seen these cases

As we say where I am "neither have their mothers"

 

53 minutes ago, podkall said:

That doesn't look anything like 216, it looks more like Lancool II/III black version, but even then it looks nothing like that.

 

not a copy

 

Neither are these, but the first one or second one is Antec Flux copy..

Im not gonna pry further as nothing good can come out of an argument

I personally see a resemblance like the a3 has with the design north but if you dont thats fine

54 minutes ago, podkall said:

You also said carbon copies, some of those aren't exact copies.

 

And I haven't really said cases don't get copied, I just said certain brands or design that are even popular and sell, aren't being copied.

? Isnt a carbon copy just "to have a resemblance of sorts" in english as well?

My bad for the subpar phrasing then
I wanted to say that many cases have a resemblance with other popular ones like in my fractal examples