Upgrade or start from scratch?

[NLIArthour]

Budget (including currency): TBD up to 9000 PLN (~2,5k USD)

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming on 3440x1440 Ultrawide monitor

 

I need some advice whether I should upgrade my current PC or start a new one from scratch. My goal is to play new games on high to ultra settings on my 3440x1440 monitor. I am currently able to run pretty much any game on medium but I wish I could make use of Ray Tracing when playing

 

My current PC specs are: 

    Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor

    ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler <- decent but possibly will upgrade to a liquid cooling setup in the future

    Asus PRIME B360M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

    Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CRC 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory x2 (16Gb total)

    Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Boot Drive

    Asus DUAL MINI V2 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card

    MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

Plan nr 1 "Upgrade the current setup": 

 The first idea was to upgrade my RAM, CPU and Graphics Card in that order

    Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

    Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor

    Asus DUAL EVO OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card

 

According to PC part picker this is still within my PSU limit 

Of course this is my ideal path because for a relatively low cost I hope I would be able to meet my goal. If these components are not enough to handle games like Hogwarts Legacy or Cyberpunk with RT turned on at 3440x1440 then I will consider a completely new PC. 

 

What do you recommend? Will my proposed upgrade work or should I save up and possibly build a brand new PC later down the line?

 

 

[Hinjima]

14 minutes ago, NLIArthour said:

Budget (including currency): TBD up to 9000 PLN (~2,5k USD)

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming on 3440x1440 Ultrawide monitor

 

I need some advice whether I should upgrade my current PC or start a new one from scratch. My goal is to play new games on high to ultra settings on my 3440x1440 monitor. I am currently able to run pretty much any game on medium but I wish I could make use of Ray Tracing when playing

 

My current PC specs are: 

    Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor

    ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler <- decent but possibly will upgrade to a liquid cooling setup in the future

    Asus PRIME B360M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

    Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CRC 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory x2 (16Gb total)

    Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Boot Drive

    Asus DUAL MINI V2 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card

    MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

Plan nr 1 "Upgrade the current setup": 

 The first idea was to upgrade my RAM, CPU and Graphics Card in that order

    Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

    Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor

    Asus DUAL EVO OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card

 

According to PC part picker this is still within my PSU limit 

Of course this is my ideal path because for a relatively low cost I hope I would be able to meet my goal. If these components are not enough to handle games like Hogwarts Legacy or Cyberpunk with RT turned on at 3440x1440 then I will consider a completely new PC. 

 

What do you recommend? Will my proposed upgrade work or should I save up and possibly build a brand new PC later down the line?

 

 

The 9700k is barely an upgrade over the 8700 in terms of gaming performance, its basically the same CPU with 2 more cores.

Games like Hogwartz Legacy and Cyberpunk are very CPU heavy so I would absolutely recommend getting a more modern CPU if possible.

A Ryzen 7600/x or a 7700/x would be a massive jump in performance and would pair nicely with a 4070 Super.

 

I went from a 9900k @5.2ghz all core to a Ryzen 7700x and I saw a great improvement in framerate and a massive improvement in the 1% and 0.1% low.

This is with an RTX 4080 that I used on both CPU's.

[jaslion]

15 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The 9700k is barely an upgrade over the 8700 in terms of gaming performance, its basically the same CPU with 2 more cores.

Hell in some games its a downgrade due to only having 8nthreads. Especially when you are doing sonething extra like calling on discord

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Hell in some games its a downgrade due to only having 8nthreads. Especially when you are doing sonething extra like calling on discord

Exactly.  With the budget OP listed but also wanted to go the cheaper route with a 9700k I would say a AM5 7700x + 4070 Super is a damn good middle ground.

Maybe even a 4070 Ti Super would be doable.

[Why_Me]

CPU

https://www.ceneo.pl/157751992  

 

or ....

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/151628126         

 

Board

https://www.ceneo.pl/142748918  

 

RAM

https://www.ceneo.pl/170132384# 

 

or ...

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/157489814     

 

PSU

https://www.ceneo.pl/176361831

[BahnStormer]

TL;DR.... reuse the M.2 and your case.... everything else goes in the bin. 

 

Not sure I'd be recommending a 12Gb card for 1440P widescreen gaming.... it'll cope, but as you've already seen at 8Gb, you need to drop the textures down a lot.

 

9000 Zloty is over €2100..... that is a very decent budget.

 

I have a few Polish colleagues and from what I've heard, the parts availability is patchy, but for what is available, their prices are lower than other EU prices such as Germany/Belgium.... so going on the German prices, I think a new PSU and RTX4080S should be within budget:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€287.89 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€41.89 @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€122.61 @ Galaxus) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€113.10 @ Galaxus) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Video Card: Inno3D X3 OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1154.74 @ Galaxus) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€127.90 @ Proshop) 
Total: €1848.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-25 22:33 CET+0100

 

If these prices are on the right track.... a 7800X3D is well within budget!

EDIT: Do you have the AM5 mounting bracket for your Endorfy Fera 5?

 

I found a few combo's.... assuming you can re-use the cooler + case + M.2.

I couldn't find a RTX4080S at this site (KRSystem).pl, but a 7800X3D and RTX4080TiS (16Gb) are WELL within a 9000PLN budget!!

 

https://www.krsystem.pl/index.php?go=koszyk

 

On this site (Morele.net), the 7800X3D+RTX4080S are over budget but by <10%, so I'm sure you could shop around a little.... or worst case, a 7700X is over 1000PLN cheaper, so gets you fairly close on performance for ~8500PLN....

https://www.morele.net/koszyk/

 

 

I don't think you have to compromise, but it the budget is looking tight and you DO have to compromise, then the choice of combo depends on games being played: more eye candy, get the RTX4080S (and 7700X).... more about sheer FPS competitive shooters, then get the 7800X3D (and RTX4070TiS).

 

Just taking the cheapest of each component from the two sites above gets you down to 9200PLN for a 7800X3D + RTX4080S.... and that's BEFORE The RTX5080 comes out and erodes the price of those cards.