gpu falling or electrical issues

[will156216]

i bought my (xfx rx570 xenon e5 2680 16gb ddr4 z440) two month ago and i have be having issue when i play games it crashes so i thought its gpu as the pattern on the crash is vram so i did heaven benchmark for 30 mins no problem so i treid occts vram test for 30mins nothing and the game that this happens the most is cpu intensive  hoi4 but when i check the crash logs gpu will not respond to more comands i even did a furmark nothing but when i did occts power test it crashed and the power button flashed 6 time + its innconstant i have went a week without crashes but now i cant play any games +i went to computer repair store and it worked fine am confused as to what is happening

[Mumintroll]

Do you have a spare pc to test with? If not ask a friend to borrow his pc for testing.

Put your gpu in another pc to test, put his gpu in your pc aswell.

 

Is it a RX 570, and was it used already when you bought it?

[will156216]

2 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

Do you have a spare pc to test with? If not ask a friend to borrow his pc for testing.

Put your gpu in another pc to test, put his gpu in your pc aswell.

 

Is it a RX 570, and was it used already when you bought it?

used and no i dont have a spare and i dont think anyone would give me a pc can i try anything but can it be gpu even that heaven and furmak work fine

[PDifolco]

Problem with old used parts is that they're prone to degradation and failure 

I'd start with cleaning and repasting the card

[Mumintroll]

Just now, will156216 said:

used and no i dont have a spare and i dont think anyone would give me a pc can i try anything but can it be gpu even that heaven and furmak work fine

Can't you pick out the gpu and visit a friend to test it over there, just to be sure?

[will156216]

3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Problem with old used parts is that they're prone to degradation and failure 

I'd start with cleaning and repasting the card

i did repast it

 

[will156216]

3 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

Can't you pick out the gpu and visit a friend to test it over there, just to be sure?

i will go to a computer repair shop and try

 

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, will156216 said:

i did repast it

 

and how are the temps? hotspot temp good?

[will156216]

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

and how are the temps? hotspot temp good?

about 86 under furmak 81 under reguler use like games but i wanna try to under clock it but i dont know how much without giving too much perfomance away i have one exsast fan so the air flow isnt that good i think that the cpu heats up the case in games so the gpu over heats 

[podkall]

8 minutes ago, will156216 said:

about 86 under furmak 81 under reguler use like games but i wanna try to under clock it but i dont know how much without giving too much perfomance away i have one exsast fan so the air flow isnt that good i think that the cpu heats up the case in games so the gpu over heats 

yeah those glitching artifacts are GPU related,

 

you could still hope it's one of the VRAM chips and as long as those aren't used the rest will function normally, or something similar,

 

not sure if underclocking will help, reducing % power draw might work better,

 

on modern GPU, if you underclock, the GPU will just boost back, because it has enough temp room, voltage, etc.

[will156216]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

yeah those glitching artifacts are GPU related,

 

you could still hope it's one of the VRAM chips and as long as those aren't used the rest will function normally, or something similar,

 

not sure if underclocking will help, reducing % power draw might work better,

 

on modern GPU, if you underclock, the GPU will just boost back, because it has enough temp room, voltage, etc.

can this be related to the areas electrcty or the gpu and i did a vram test and  its fine

 

 

[SorryBella]

Just now, will156216 said:

can this be related to the areas electrcty or the gpu and i did a vram test and  its fine

Unless if you use some of the worst PSU in the world, no, stabilizer can only do so much. This is GPU artifacting.

[ChrisLoudon]

13 minutes ago, will156216 said:

about 86 under furmak 81 under reguler use like games but i wanna try to under clock it but i dont know how much without giving too much perfomance away i have one exsast fan so the air flow isnt that good i think that the cpu heats up the case in games so the gpu over heats 

Glitching (artifacting) like that is a classic VRAM issue.

 

Unfortunately, not much you can do about it although you could using MSI Afterburner to try and lower the memory clock on the GPU to see if you can find any stability but still have enough performance to play games.

[will156216]

15 minutes ago, ChrisLoudon said:

Glitching (artifacting) like that is a classic VRAM issue.

 

Unfortunately, not much you can do about it although you could using MSI Afterburner to try and lower the memory clock on the GPU to see if you can find any stability but still have enough performance to play games.

so the i have a warrnty the thing is i went to the guy and the pc worked fine there so he didnt rma it and it does this on a cpu game like hoi4 doesnt use gpu alot

[will156216]

12 minutes ago, ChrisLoudon said:

Glitching (artifacting) like that is a classic VRAM issue.

 

Unfortunately, not much you can do about it although you could using MSI Afterburner to try and lower the memory clock on the GPU to see if you can find any stability but still have enough performance to play games.

also its not happening always two days works fine then other days it doesnt work and i cant play any games can hardware issues be like this

[will156216]

weird thing it crashes in hoi4 when i open the time (cou intensive) if i just keep it i doesnt crash so not gpu

 

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

yeah those glitching artifacts are GPU related,

 

you could still hope it's one of the VRAM chips and as long as those aren't used the rest will function normally, or something similar,

 

not sure if underclocking will help, reducing % power draw might work better,

 

on modern GPU, if you underclock, the GPU will just boost back, because it has enough temp room, voltage, etc.

 

that's undervolting, if you "under clock" it usually adheres to the maximum set, you can even lock the clock speed with afterburner...

 

that said, ops gpu is probably toast. sorry to say. 

[will156216]

36 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

 

that's undervolting, if you "under clock" it usually adheres to the maximum set, you can even lock the clock speed with afterburner...

 

that said, ops gpu is probably toast. sorry to say. 

then why is it working fine in any striss  test and some times rare that it does this on the home screen but i works fine in any benchmark how can this toast tho

[podkall]

1 hour ago, will156216 said:

then why is it working fine in any striss  test and some times rare that it does this on the home screen but i works fine in any benchmark how can this toast tho

because if stress doesn't "load" the VRAM on data it has to store, it might not do the same problem

[will156216]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

because if stress doesn't "load" the VRAM on data it has to store, it might not do the same problem

i made the vram speed 1600 and its stable thx

[will156216]

On 1/22/2025 at 6:59 PM, podkall said:

because if stress doesn't "load" the VRAM on data it has to store, it might not do the same problem

the weird thing i got the vram speed back and it works today nothing wrong

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, will156216 said:

the weird thing i got the vram speed back and it works today nothing wrong

well, if the GPU has problem, it doesn't always have to crash or glitch

 

it can work fine like nothing is wrong, and then suddenly crash/glitch few days later for example

[will156216]

13 minutes ago, podkall said:

well, if the GPU has problem, it doesn't always have to crash or glitch

 

it can work fine like nothing is wrong, and then suddenly crash/glitch few days later for example

so i should rma it

 

[OddOod]

2 minutes ago, will156216 said:

so i should rma it

yes
a dying GPU can definitely be intermittently okay. It's a maddening hunt for the problem. But that artifacting is a huge red flag

 

[will156216]

15 minutes ago, podkall said:

well, if the GPU has problem, it doesn't always have to crash or glitch

 

it can work fine like nothing is wrong, and then suddenly crash/glitch few days later for example

the guy just says it works fine cuz it works fine there cuz i cant sit and play for an hour so what should i do