having extreme difficulty reinstalling cooler

[koopa990]

From laying my PC flat on a box to everything else.... I want to give up. Maybe... This'll be my last resort: handing my PC to geek squads

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, koopa990 said:

From laying my PC flat on a box to everything else.... I want to give up. Maybe... This'll be my last resort: handing my PC to geek squads

Are you asking or help or just ranting?

 

We need more info if you want help.

 

If ranting, sorry?

[Robchil]

are you mounting your cooler directly to those holes.. or are there brackets that should be there? 

[PDifolco]

That's a board, what's the cooler and the problem ?

Usually if it's "very hard" you aren't doing it correctly (talking from experience )

[koopa990]

6 minutes ago, Robchil said:

are you mounting your cooler directly to those holes.. or are there brackets that should be there? 

There's no way to mount the plate directly on the board, I gotta hold it

[freeagent]

So hold it?

 

Not sure what the problem is.

[koopa990]

3 minutes ago, freeagent said:

So hold it?

 

Not sure what the problem is.

I'm giving all my best effort to hold it in different ways

[YoungBlade]

9 minutes ago, koopa990 said:

There's no way to mount the plate directly on the board, I gotta hold it

Yes, if you are mounting a cooler that requires a backplate after the motherboard is already installed in the case, you do usually need to hold it in place until you get at least one of the screws in.

 

This is one of the reasons why, when you're installing the cooler initially, it's done outside of the case.

 

I had to do this when installing the Vetroo V5 into my now secondary computer. It was difficult, but doable.

 

You can also use tape to hold the backplate in place, as long as the force you use to drive in the screws isn't too great.

 

Another option would be to take the motherboard out of the case and install the cooler with the motherboard on a box or something, or you can get someone else to hold the backplate up for a few seconds while you get a couple of screws in.

 

EDIT: Another idea - if you have a box or something of the right size to fit through the hole in the back panel of the case, you could put your case on top of the box, and have that prop up the backplate - assuming your case isn't so heavy that you'd risk cracking the motherboard if it put too much pressure on it.

[koopa990]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

Yes, if you are mounting a cooler that requires a backplate after the motherboard is already installed in the case, you do usually need to hold it in place until you get at least one of the screws in.

 

This is one of the reasons why, when you're installing the cooler initially, it's done outside of the case.

 

I had to do this when installing the Vetroo V5 into my now secondary computer. It was difficult, but doable.

 

You can also use tape to hold the backplate in place, as long as the force you use to drive in the screws isn't too great.

 

Another option would be to take the motherboard out of the case and install the cooler with the motherboard on a box or something, or you can get someone else to hold the backplate up for a few seconds while you get a couple of screws in.

 

EDIT: Another idea - if you have a box or something of the right size to fit through the hole in the back panel of the case, you could put your case on top of the box, and have that prop up the backplate.

2 of those options I can't succeed:

1. I have no one to help me

2. I really don't want to unplug everything just for this

[freeagent]

Just now, koopa990 said:

2. I really don't want to unplug everything just for this

It takes 5 minutes.. you should really be doing this outside of the case.

[koopa990]

2 minutes ago, freeagent said:

It takes 5 minutes.. you should really be doing this outside of the case.

I still have the terrible memory of me plugging in the stuff in correct slots. Plus the tremendous force to push

[Dedayog]

Just now, koopa990 said:

I still have the terrible memory of me plugging in the stuff in correct slots. Plus the tremendous force to push

Wait, this is a reinstall of the cooler?  Can you backtrack how you took it off?

 

What cooler?  There are instructions for them....

[Robchil]

Just now, koopa990 said:

I still have the terrible memory of me plugging in the stuff in correct slots. Plus the tremendous force to push

is it the wraith stealth cooler?..  isn't it push pins to just press in then? 

 

[koopa990]

Just now, Robchil said:

is it the wraith stealth cooler?..  isn't it push pins to just press in then? 

 

This model isn't push. Needs back plate in place, screw in

[Robchil]

Just now, koopa990 said:

This model isn't push. Needs back plate in place, screw in

take a picture of everything your not sure about to check when you remount 

 

[Dedayog]

13 minutes ago, koopa990 said:

2 of those options I can't succeed:

1. I have no one to help me

2. I really don't want to unplug everything just for this

You don't need to.  I removed my AIO and put on a Peerless Assassin inside the case.

 

You need to figure out how it attaches, if it is screws and springs, you need to push until the threads catch.

 

Yes, it can be a good bit of pressure.

[Mark Kaine]

12 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

This is one of the reasons why, when you're installing the cooler initially, it's done outside of the case.

I've definitely never done this and probably never will...?

 

i also close all side panels before turning the pc on for the first time,  sue me...

 

that said im not sure i understand ops issue... don't all coolers need some kind of "brackets"...??

 

where are ops brackets? im thinking that's the issue. 

 

@koopa990  what cpu do you have (which we conveniently can't see due to the beautiful blob of thermal paste lol) and what cpu cooler do you have? 

 

7 minutes ago, koopa990 said:

This model isn't push. Needs back plate in place, screw in

yeah. all cpu coolers need a backplate,  i don't think that's actually the issue,  we need the correct information for parts in order to help you. 

[Mark Kaine]

28 minutes ago, freeagent said:

So hold it?

 

Not sure what the problem is.

i LOVE remounting the cooler while the backplate is just a loose useless thing threatening all SMD parts of your mobo... TESAFILM to the rescue!!!

 

@YoungBlade that's actually why all cases have cutouts in the back so you don't have to mount the cooler outside (how barbaric!) but it's indeed a pain.. you can hold it as @freeagent says, but really better to use something like not super adhesive tape, aka tesafilm, or whatever you guys use.... America has tesafilm, right?

[koopa990]

Ryzen 5 3600

 

Wraiths cooler (not the stealth and prism model)

[Mark Kaine]

27 minutes ago, freeagent said:

It takes 5 minutes.. you should really be doing this outside of the case.

can be done in 5 minutes inside the case too,  but you definitely need "something" to hold the backplate in place ... that said... we still don't know what cooler op uses so....? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

[Mark Kaine]

11 minutes ago, koopa990 said:

Ryzen 5 3600

 

Wraiths cooler (not the stealth and prism model)

yeah. you need the AM4 brackets, WHERE ARE THEY? (comes with your motherboard btw)

[koopa990]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

can be done in 5 minutes inside the case too,  but you definitely need "something" to hold the backplate in place ... that said... we still don't know what cooler op uses so....? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Amd wraith

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, koopa990 said:

Amd wraith

see above.  you need the brackets that (should have) come with your motherboard.

 

 

something like this?

 

 

[SpookyCitrus]

It may be easier for you to tape the backplate to the board, if you're having trouble screwing the cooler in while it's in the case and holding the backplate at the same time. Otherwise removing the board from the system and doing it on a flat surface with the board on top of the backplate holding it down is much easier.

 

The AMD stock coolers that are installed by screwing into the backplate can be a little tricky if you've never done anything with that type of mounting before. Typically once you get one in it should be easier to get the rest. Keep in mind you do not tighten them all the way one at a time. You get one threaded, then thread the rest, only a couple turns just enough to get them all started, you then gradually tighten them all in an alternating pattern, evenly tightening them, you do not fully tighten them individually or one at a time. There are guides on how to install these coolers properly. 

 

Also remember to repaste your CPU, if you are installing the cooler with the intentions of using it with the past looking like it does in the picture, just know that you'll likely run into overheating.

[Mark Kaine]

the brackets may also come with your cooler but wraith uses the standard ones that come with your mobo iirc. you also definitely need a backplate.