New PC for Chritmes

[chris2001]

pc for my brother is turning 14

Budget (including currency): about 1900$-2200$

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: fortine, fivem and near that area 

i been a while out of the game and i want to build a new pc from scratch what parts should i get? the pc will be mainly gaming and recording Durning games nothing crazy 

or should i get 1 prebuild? if yes what kind should i go with

 

[ChrisLoudon]

9 minutes ago, chris2001 said:

or should i get 1 prebuild? if yes what kind should i go with

Can you wait until early 2025 or do you need one now?

 

Nvidia, AMD and Intel are all due to announce a new line up of GPUs in January of next year with the cards hitting the shelves soon after so at the moment, GPU stock of current gen cards is starting to dwindle with prices rising to reflect short supply or at the very least, we'll see this soon.

 

I would also say that since you've probably missed the bulk of the 'Black Friday' deals, waiting for the January sales might be worth waiting for. At least this is what tends to happen in the UK.

 

I'm looking to replace my bedroom gaming rig (9900k + 3080ti) and am going to wait until Q1 of next year. I'm also going to move to AMD my CPU platform so waiting for stock of the new X3D chips to stabilise.

 

With regards to going pre-built or DIY, if you have built a PC in the past or at the very lease, not scared or shy of the project, then absolutely, build yourself. With a budget of about $2k, you should be able to save about £200ish bucks in just labour charge alone. The only real benefit with going pre-built is the cheaper OEM Windows License, although you can usually find one online and a warrantee that covers the whole system rather than you having to deal with different manufacturer warrantees yourself

[venomtail]

This will be great for a kiddo with their light games. Free M.2 from NewEgg with 7600X:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 36 CO CPU Cooler  ($27.71 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ MSI) 
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 BLACK Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Montech AIR 1000 PREMIUM ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Segotep GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $991.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-11 05:29 EST-0500

[chris2001]

18 minutes ago, venomtail said:

This will be great for a kiddo with their light games. Free M.2 from NewEgg with 7600X:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 36 CO CPU Cooler  ($27.71 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ MSI) 
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 BLACK Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Montech AIR 1000 PREMIUM ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Segotep GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $991.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-11 05:29 EST-0500

what the different in the cpu between amd and intel 

and regarding the gpu why not nvidia 

just asking 

 

[chris2001]

1 hour ago, ChrisLoudon said:

Can you wait until early 2025 or do you need one now?

 

Nvidia, AMD and Intel are all due to announce a new line up of GPUs in January of next year with the cards hitting the shelves soon after so at the moment, GPU stock of current gen cards is starting to dwindle with prices rising to reflect short supply or at the very least, we'll see this soon.

 

I would also say that since you've probably missed the bulk of the 'Black Friday' deals, waiting for the January sales might be worth waiting for. At least this is what tends to happen in the UK.

 

I'm looking to replace my bedroom gaming rig (9900k + 3080ti) and am going to wait until Q1 of next year. I'm also going to move to AMD my CPU platform so waiting for stock of the new X3D chips to stabilise.

 

With regards to going pre-built or DIY, if you have built a PC in the past or at the very lease, not scared or shy of the project, then absolutely, build yourself. With a budget of about $2k, you should be able to save about £200ish bucks in just labour charge alone. The only real benefit with going pre-built is the cheaper OEM Windows License, although you can usually find one online and a warrantee that covers the whole system rather than you having to deal with different manufacturer warrantees yourself

reason needed for taxes

[ChrisLoudon]

1 minute ago, chris2001 said:

needed for taxes reason 

Lol, good enough reason.

[TatamiMatt]

19 minutes ago, chris2001 said:

what the different in the cpu between amd and intel 

and regarding the gpu why not nvidia 

just asking 

 

AMD are the current reigning champs for cpus in price, performance, energy efficiency, temps and reliability

 

For the GPU, with NVidia you get some bonuses, better RTing etc, but you pay quite a large premium for them, so amd GPUs are better value for money. AMD GPUs also often have more VRAM than their same tier Nvidia counterparts, 4070 having 12gb and 7800xt having 16gb

[chris2001]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

AMD are the current reigning champs for cpus in price, performance, energy efficiency, temps and reliability

 

For the GPU, with NVidia you get some bonuses, better RTing etc, but you pay quite a large premium for them, so amd GPUs are better value for money. AMD GPUs also often have more VRAM than their same tier Nvidia counterparts, 4070 having 12gb and 7800xt having 16gb

thanks dude 

[venomtail]

33 minutes ago, chris2001 said:

what the different in the cpu between amd and intel 

and regarding the gpu why not nvidia 

just asking 

 

NVIDIA is currently asking an insane premium for their GPU's, unjustified I'd say. Intel dropped out of being a 3rd option as I've no idea how stable and capable their build in recorder is. AMD's Radeon is great, better than what I even remember NVIDIA's Shadowplay being.

 

Intel dropped its pants back in 2018 when it comes to CPU's and is still struggling to pull them up. AMD is just a way better option here and absolutely uncontested for gaming at the top end. AMD's AM5 socket allows for a new CPU to be just dropped in as late as 2027/28. Also a deal currently with the 7600X for a free M.2, another $50 savings on top of the already on sale price of the 7600X alone.

 

I think they're clearing stocks so the newly released 9600X can replace it in stores.

[chris2001]

7 minutes ago, venomtail said:

NVIDIA is currently asking an insane premium for their GPU's, unjustified I'd say. Intel dropped out of being a 3rd option as I've no idea how stable and capable their build in recorder is. AMD's Radeon is great, better than what I even remember NVIDIA's Shadowplay being.

 

Intel dropped its pants back in 2018 when it comes to CPU's and is still struggling to pull them up. AMD is just a way better option here and absolutely uncontested for gaming at the top end. AMD's AM5 socket allows for a new CPU to be just dropped in as late as 2027/28. Also a deal currently with the 7600X for a free M.2, another $50 savings on top of the already on sale price of the 7600X alone.

 

I think they're clearing stocks so the newly released 9600X can replace it in stores.

Understood

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G272QPF-E2

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($268.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE ARGB 58 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($167.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: *MSI G272QPF E2 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor  ($199.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1822.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-11 06:42 EST-0500

[podkall]

If you plan to spoil your brother with PC that will likely have unmatched performance, look no further than this:

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrQBcx

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($268.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ MSI)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Samsung)
Video Card: *ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 (2024) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1573.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-11 07:10 EST-0500

 

 

Also consider Microcenter, sometimes their deals are worth a trip, sometimes you pay extra just to drive there and it's not worth even considering. - so really only really if you live really close to one..

[chris2001]

what kind of memory should i take have this option

 CorsairKingstonG.Skill

[TatamiMatt]

13 hours ago, chris2001 said:

what kind of memory should i take have this option

 CorsairKingstonG.Skill

Whatever is 6000CL30, if they are all this, then whatever is cheapest

[chris2001]

3 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Whatever is 6000CL30, if they are all this, then whatever is cheapest

Corsair Vengeance 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL36

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, chris2001 said:

Corsair Vengeance 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL36

For AM5 getting the CL30 will give a noticeable bump in performance, small but definitely noticeable, id try and aim to hit the 6000CL30 sweet spot, if you really cant the 6000CL36 is fine. But AM5 is more dependant on latency (CL timings) than the speed itself (MHz).

[chris2001]

later i will post how far i got and want your option 

[venomtail]

16 hours ago, chris2001 said:

what kind of memory should i take have this option

 CorsairKingstonG.Skill

You need to quote us or @chris2001 us so we get a notification of your reply.

[chris2001]

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5GHz AM5 - Box

Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 A-RGB (White)

MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI AMD AM5 B650 DDR5

G.Skill Ripjaws M5 RGB 2x16GB DDR5 5600MHz CL30

Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD

Corsair RM850x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold 850W Fully Modular ATX

Case still unknown

and GPU still unknown 

going with the white theme pc 

[TatamiMatt]

22 minutes ago, chris2001 said:

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5GHz AM5 - Box

Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 A-RGB (White)

MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI AMD AM5 B650 DDR5

G.Skill Ripjaws M5 RGB 2x16GB DDR5 5600MHz CL30

Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD

Corsair RM850x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold 850W Fully Modular ATX

Case still unknown

and GPU still unknown 

going with the white theme pc 

You can also go for an air cooler instead of an AIO,

 

If getting 5600MHz RAM, aim for CL28, the latency is calculated by both speed and timings, you want 10ns of theoretical first word latency, which will be 5600CL28, 6000CL30 etc

 

And just to let you know, white PCs will often cost more for the same performance, or vice versa, will have less performance for the same price

[chris2001]

GPU (what should i take?)

MSI RTX 4070 SUPER GAMING X SLIM 12GB GDDR6X HDMI 3xDP

MSI GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER VENTUS 3X 12GB OC GDDR6X

Motherboard 

Motherboard

MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI AMD AM5 B650 DDR5

 

CPU 

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5GHz AM5 - Box

 

CPU FAN (what should i take?)

Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU

 Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 A-RGB (White)

 

RAM (what should i take?)

Kingston FURY BEAST RGB 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30

G.Skill Flare X5 2x16GB DDR5 6000Mhz CL30

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30

 

SSD (what should i take?)

Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD

Or there better 1 idk that much about ssd but need someone for gaming 

 

PSU

Corsair RM850x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold 850W Fully Modular ATX

 

Case 

Antec C5 ARGB ATX Mid Tower

 

and if these setup everything will fit?

I would like everyone option before ordering the parts  thanks

[TatamiMatt]

On 12/13/2024 at 6:47 PM, chris2001 said:

GPU (what should i take?)

MSI RTX 4070 SUPER GAMING X SLIM 12GB GDDR6X HDMI 3xDP

MSI GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER VENTUS 3X 12GB OC GDDR6X

 

CPU FAN (what should i take?)

Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU

 Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 A-RGB (White)

 

RAM (what should i take?)

Kingston FURY BEAST RGB 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30

G.Skill Flare X5 2x16GB DDR5 6000Mhz CL30

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30

 

SSD (what should i take?)

Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD

Or there better 1 idk that much about ssd but need someone for gaming 

For all these options, just whatever is the cheapest, all will provide the same performance, for the cooler, probably the AIO as AM5 can get pretty hot and the liquid freezer series is the best lineup of coolers you can get for AM5