Where do you save your emails?

[cisto1999]

Maybe it is a stupid question and maybe it is a little strange in this section...

I want a silent pc and i have some ssds... but i am still hesitating to save the folder for the emails (thunderbird) on the ssd because i think most of the stuff is useless read and write on the ssd... but the hhd is too noisy for me - any other solutions? or just put the email folder on the ssd?

[xXxYOLOxSWAGxXx_420BlazeIt]

You will need to save billions of emails to wear out an SSD.

[jaqiefox]

as per thread title, I store my emails on gmail's servers.   I have a backup on my blackberry curve 8350.

[kpsl808mg]

@cisto1999  no, it's not stupid at all !

 

if i look on my own setups to channel newsletters / infos, forums, business, privat and family mails - i often ask myself the same question.

 

to manage a large amount of accounts i use thunderbird ( but also e.g. outlook  for/at friends or family). my solution so far / right now, thunderbird on local machines, thunderbird portable on a thumbdrive and k-9 on mobile devices ; more or less regular backups of all content on various solutions...  

[alpenwasser]

As Yolo said, you really don't need to worry about your SSD's

longevity. It takes a ton of writes to kill an SSD.

As an example: 3 petabytes in this test.

[flibberdipper]

Google.

 

And to give you an idea of how long it takes to wear out an SSD, I've written about half a terabyte to mine and there is no degradation at all (disk health is still at 100%). Not the best example, but still. Half a terabyte in, and I haven't even impacted it's health one bit.

[atrash]

tmcclelland455, on 28 May 2014 - 06:07 AM, said:

Google.

 

And to give you an idea of how long it takes to wear out an SSD, I've written about half a terabyte to mine and there is no degradation at all (disk health is still at 100%). Not the best example, but still. Half a terabyte in, and I haven't even impacted it's health one bit.

 

Mine is almost 9TB on a 120gb ssd. Still at 100% too.. I might just be able to inherite the ssd to my future grandkids. LOL

[alpenwasser]

Google.

 

And to give you an idea of how long it takes to wear out an SSD, I've written about half a terabyte to mine and there is no degradation at all (disk health is still at 100%). Not the best example, but still. Half a terabyte in, and I haven't even impacted it's health one bit.

 

 

Mine is almost 9TB on a 120gb ssd. Still at 100% too.. I might just be able to inherite the ssd to my future grandkids. LOL

I would hope that your SSDs are still fine. In the endurance tests

I've come across it took at least several hundred terabytes to start

producing errors.

[flibberdipper]

 

 

I would hope that your SSDs are still fine. In the endurance tests

I've come across it took at least several hundred terabytes to start

producing errors.

And to think, my dad thought that after a year my SSD would die and my data would get corrupt.

[IdeaStormer]

As Yolo said, you really don't need to worry about your SSD's

longevity. It takes a ton of writes to kill an SSD.

As an example: 3 petabytes in this test.

 

 

Google.

 

And to give you an idea of how long it takes to wear out an SSD, I've written about half a terabyte to mine and there is no degradation at all (disk health is still at 100%). Not the best example, but still. Half a terabyte in, and I haven't even impacted it's health one bit.

 

Those are great test scenarios for SSD's reputation, but are you going to have your system in the same exact test environment? Nope, so that data while valid for the test scenario is probably not valid for your use. Not saying its not good, just that everyone's mileage or write count will vary.

[alpenwasser]

Those are great test scenarios for SSD's reputation, but are you going to have your system in the same exact test environment? Nope, so that data while valid for the test scenario is probably not valid for your use. Not saying its not good, just that everyone's mileage or write count will vary.

True, that's why I said "in this test". But of all the ones

I've been able to find over the past year or so, it always

took at least a few hundred terabytes to start throwing errors.

The 3 petabyte one is the maximum I've been able to find so

far (although that was until the drive was completely dead,,

not just throwing errors).

Yes, there will be variables that differ between one's personal

setup and those test scenarios, and you therefore can't just

expect to see identical results for your own SSDs, but as general

ballpark figures those numbers are probably still a somewhat

decent indicator of what can be expected from what I can tell.

Maybe you'll see better results, maybe worse, but I have not

come across any data that would indicate that the gap would be

large enough to really be significant to the average end user.

[IdeaStormer]

True, that's why I said "in this test". But of all the ones

I've been able to find over the past year or so, it always

took at least a few hundred terabytes to start throwing errors.

The 3 petabyte one is the maximum I've been able to find so

far (although that was until the drive was completely dead,,

not just throwing errors).

Yes, there will be variables that differ between one's personal

setup and those test scenarios, and you therefore can't just

expect to see identical results for your own SSDs, but as general

ballpark figures those numbers are probably still a somewhat

decent indicator of what can be expected from what I can tell.

Maybe you'll see better results, maybe worse, but I have not

come across any data that would indicate that the gap would be

large enough to really be significant to the average end user.

 

Agreed, I am only noting that the world is variable and no one test will apply to everyone.

 

I often am confronted with questions as to why a drive died and the user usually says they did nothing, only after digging you find out that they basically beat the drive to death and were lucky it lasted as long as it did, beat as in carried it in a back pack sans any protection and literally tossed their back pack around and often put it in moist environments and exposed it to extreme heat/cold. I can't wait till they add more stress indicators like they do in cell phones. Then we'd know for sure what a drive went through before it dies.

[alpenwasser]

Agreed, I am only noting that the world is variable and no one test will apply to everyone.

 

I often am confronted with questions as to why a drive died and the user usually says they did nothing, only after digging you find out that they basically beat the drive to death and were lucky it lasted as long as it did, beat as in carried it in a back pack sans any protection and literally tossed their back pack around and often put it in moist environments and exposed it to extreme heat/cold. I can't wait till they add more stress indicators like they do in cell phones. Then we'd know for sure what a drive went through before it dies.

Ah yes, that's definitely a very valid consideration. Especially harsh

changes in temperature and the stress they can cause on components

are probably something most people aren't really too aware of from

what I've been able to make out. And the whole "tossing around thing",

yeah... sigh. Many people just seem to think that stuff is unbreakable,

or they plain don't care anymore.

I have three younger brothers; when I look at their phones I get shivers

down my spine, whereas all phones I've ever had are still in pretty damn

good condition (and no, I don't keep my phones in protective cases). If I

pay money for something, I want it to bloody last, so I take good care of it.

 

For example, it's always been a mystery to me how so many people have

cracked phone screens. I have my phone in my back pocket (so I do

actually sit on it on occasion), but I've never had a cracked screen, whereas

in some circles it seems to be almost an epidemic. WTF?

Anyway, </rant>

[dtronicsuk]

just one thing

 

you say hard drives are noisy.... 

 

my 1tb hard drive is silent and when gaming the noisiest part is my gpu. yes ok i can hear it spin up at start up but thats only then.

 

so how noisy is too noisy because i can even hear my hard drive when the pc is running and my pc is silent

[IdeaStormer]

just one thing

 

you say hard drives are noisy.... 

 

my 1tb hard drive is silent and when gaming the noisiest part is my gpu. yes ok i can hear it spin up at start up but thats only then.

 

so how noisy is too noisy because i can even hear my hard drive when the pc is running and my pc is silent

 

Most of the whining seems to come from the user and not the drive, they hear some youtube guy complain about it so they feel they need to as well.