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[podkall]

Just now, tryagaintony said:

8k Video editing so would that change anything on the build that you made?

probably what @RONOTHAN## suggested: (but changing lists can be fun sometimes, not for your wallet maybe, but for me it is)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($499.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($181.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($274.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($1719.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Montech TITAN GOLD 1200W 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($140.24 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($23.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3481.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-09 19:03 EDT-0400

 

nice find on the PSU @Somerandomtechyboi

[podkall]

Just now, podkall said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($499.00 @ Amazon)

16core powerhouse

 

Just now, podkall said:

Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($319.99 @ Amazon)

high quality SSD for creative work

 

Just now, podkall said:

Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($274.99 @ Amazon)

4TB for OS and games

 

 

[Why_Me]

16 minutes ago, podkall said:

personally with decent budgets, I'd go for 1TB OS storage, not that 500GB isn't enough, but because there are certain things that love to use that drive, like apps that don't let you choose install location, AppData, Temp and other default folders

Fixed ^^

[podkall]

If you want, you can spend 30$ more for RAM with bit tighter timings:

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($219.99 @ Amazon)

 

instead of air cooler, an AIO like this is decent: (do note that AIOs don't last as long as AirCoolers do) [you also don't want to buy extra case fans because AIO is like 3 fans 360mm ones are at least]

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($116.99 @ Amazon)

 

And I can't think of anything else, have I mentioned everything @RONOTHAN##@Somerandomtechyboi?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

5 minutes ago, podkall said:

high quality SSD for creative work

crucial t700 puts it to shame for 60$ more, if you are gonna spend extra on the ssd make it actually justifiable rather than spending 80$ extra on just another high end gen4 that dont perform any better or just pocket the 80$ like what i did and get a vi7000g, though if op does this professionaly and makes money off it consider a t705 instead cause at that point its just a buisness investment, you spend some to make some extra cash

 

Just now, podkall said:

If you want, you can spend 30$ more for RAM with bit tighter timings:

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($219.99 @ Amazon)

this is irrelevant since its just slightly tighter primaries and primaries dont exactly give you much performance (more like do next to nothing except maybe trcd), its the same hynix a die so secondaries will be the same and performance uplift will be next to non existent

 

1 minute ago, podkall said:

instead of air cooler, an AIO like this is decent: (do note that AIOs don't last as long as AirCoolers do) [you also don't want to buy extra case fans because AIO is like 3 fans 360mm ones are at least]

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($116.99 @ Amazon)

ryzen doesnt really need an aio, the trash ihs on these chips simply stop it from dissipating heat past a certain point so custom loops become useless and aios are not really gonna improve on things that much though maybe abit in terms of noise

 

9 minutes ago, podkall said:

Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($23.99 @ Amazon)

those p12 arent pwm so fixed speed unless mobo can control fan speed via voltage, also p12 max 5 pack are 36$ and those are better fans

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

crucial t700 puts it to shame for 60$ more, if you are gonna spend extra on the ssd make it actually justifiable rather than spending 80$ extra on just another high end gen4 that dont perform any better or just pocket the 80$ like what i did and get a vi7000g, though if op does this professionaly and makes money off it consider a t705 instead cause at that point its just a buisness investment, you spend some to make some extra cash

I went with 990 because I may be bit biased, it's still bit better than GM7000, but the T700 def bit better even more, though not sure, is Gen4 M.2 slot bottleneck for it?

 

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

this is irrelevant since its just slightly tighter primaries and primaries dont exactly give you much performance (more like do next to nothing except maybe trcd), its the same hynix a die so secondaries will be the same and performance uplift will be next to non existent

it's about the smoothness not the fps, tighter timings could contribute making video editing snappier, no? among other things ofc

 

4 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

ryzen doesnt really need an aio,

of course, this is purely for quiet operation and bonus looks, but it is 16 core 7950x not 7800x3D.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

those p12 arent pwm so fixed speed unless mobo can control fan speed via voltage, also p12 max 5 pack are 36$ and those are better fans

B650 chipset MB should have fan control,

 

this one has 3: (which I guess is not enough for more than 3 fans which if we buy fans would be more than 3)

 

fan controller would have to be bought for that

[Somerandomtechyboi]

35 minutes ago, podkall said:

it's about the smoothness not the fps, tighter timings could contribute making video editing snappier, no? among other things ofc

youd tighten the secondaries and tertiaries for that, primaries wont get you that smoothness or those higher 1% lows alone, and besides its x3d the cache nullifies the benifits of faster ram for games, tertiaries are the most importabt timings for ram performance as they actually screw with bandwidth afaik you set them too loose and bye bye ram performance unlike setting loose cl/tcwl where performance will only be marginally different

 

ill actually have to buy a gpu to test this alongside a more recent platform cause afaik ddr3 benifits alot more in games for increases in bandwidth/speed than ddr4 or ddr5 and i can run somewhat high ddr3 speeds (2800+ on all 3 channels) and jedec ddr3 speeds are pitifully slow (1600 non ecc and 2133 ecc) relative to imc capabilities so itd be pretty unfair to compare to ddr4/5

 

35 minutes ago, podkall said:

I went with 990 because I may be bit biased, it's still bit better than GM7000, but the T700 def bit better even more, though not sure, is Gen4 M.2 slot bottleneck for it?

marginally better but the t700 obliterates it and marginally better does not mean an extra 50$+ over a similar high end gen4, id expect an actual jump in speed like what the t700 gives, just look at the tomshardware review on the t700 where it just obliterates the 990 pro and the 990 pro barely performs any better than any equivalent high end gen4s

 

as for the gen5 slot even the b650 livemixer has a gen5 m.2 slot and thats a 150$ board

[podkall]

10 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

the 990 pro barely performs any better than any equivalent high end gen4s

it depends, it's fastest on it's gen4 pack, unless you have specific pick that would probably be even more expensive than the 990,

 

the sequentials hurt a bit for some reasons though, might have a look around and see similar SSDs to 990 that don't suffer from this, still it hovers above 1GB/s when it dips in performance:

[Somerandomtechyboi]

56 minutes ago, podkall said:

it depends, it's fastest on it's gen4 pack, unless you have specific pick that would probably be even more expensive than the 990,

 

the sequentials hurt a bit for some reasons though, might have a look around and see similar SSDs to 990 that don't suffer from this, still it hovers above 1GB/s when it dips in performance:

still probably gonna get quashed by the t700 so you might aswell spend the extra 60$ for an outright faster ssd rather than something marginally faster or at best abit faster than a regular high end gen4, just isnt worth the extra 60-80$ for that rather small performance bump going from a cheaper high end gen4 to a 990 pro

[podkall]

11 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

still probably gonna get quashed by the t700 so you might aswell spend the extra 60$ for an outright faster ssd rather than something marginally faster or at best abit faster than a regular high end gen4, just isnt worth the extra 60-80$ for that rather small performance bump going from a cheaper high end gen4 to a 990 pro

still, the 990 Pro has like 0,5GB/s better sequentials than WD Black SN850x after their cache fills

[podkall]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

still, the 990 Pro has like 0,5GB/s better sequentials than WD Black SN850x after their cache fills

wait no, I can't see the 4TB version review of SN850x

[tryagaintony]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CdBgMV

 

Hey guys i tweaked couple things from builds you made could you check it out and tell me if it looks good and everything is compatible or anything you'd possibly do differently & also i have it to spare so i kinda wanna do rgb so could you recommend some good rgb cpu coolers and case fans please and thanks!

[tryagaintony]

6 minutes ago, tryagaintony said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CdBgMV

 

Hey guys i tweaked couple things from builds you made could you check it out and tell me if it looks good and everything is compatible or anything you'd possibly do differently & also i have it to spare so i kinda wanna do rgb so could you recommend some good rgb cpu coolers and case fans please and thanks!

@podkall @Somerandomtechyboi @RONOTHAN##

[RONOTHAN##]

21 minutes ago, tryagaintony said:

tell me if it looks good and everything is compatible

Everything is compatible, but the storage config is weird, and you probably should be going for a higher end CPU if you're doing the video editing that you described before. I'd avoid the 990 Pro just because of the quality control issues Samsung's been having, and realistically these stupid fast SSDs aren't going to be that useful anyway, but if you really want one just get 3 of the same drive. 

 

Also, I'd probably go for a different motherboard. There's nothing particularly wrong with the Gaming X AX, but there's also nothing particularly special about it, and a board like the B650 Eagle is very similar for $20 less, and the B650 LiveMixer is slightly better IMO for $30 less, albeit without built in WiFi (this can be added for $20 though). 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jQFJ34

 

Also, you don't have a case in there, were you looking for RGB case recommendations or did you already have a case you were planning on reusing?

 

31 minutes ago, tryagaintony said:

could you recommend some good rgb cpu coolers and case fans please

There is an RGB version of the Thermalright Phantom Spirit, just go for that. As for RGB case fans, I'd probably recommend the Arctic P12 RGB since they're relatively cheap with pretty good performance, though just getting a case with RGB fans included like the Lian Li Lancool 216 would be my pick. 

[podkall]

21 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Everything is compatible, but the storage config is weird, and you probably should be going for a higher end CPU if you're doing the video editing that you described before. I'd avoid the 990 Pro just because of the quality control issues Samsung's been having, and realistically these stupid fast SSDs aren't going to be that useful anyway, but if you really want one just get 3 of the same drive. 

 

Also, I'd probably go for a different motherboard. There's nothing particularly wrong with the Gaming X AX, but there's also nothing particularly special about it, and a board like the B650 Eagle is very similar for $20 less, and the B650 LiveMixer is slightly better IMO for $30 less, albeit without built in WiFi (this can be added for $20 though). 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jQFJ34

 

Also, you don't have a case in there, were you looking for RGB case recommendations or did you already have a case you were planning on reusing?

 

There is an RGB version of the Thermalright Phantom Spirit, just go for that. As for RGB case fans, I'd probably recommend the Arctic P12 RGB since they're relatively cheap with pretty good performance, though just getting a case with RGB fans included like the Lian Li Lancool 216 would be my pick. 

good, both builds miss case, so just to throw those out there that are pretty nice:

 

Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon)

 

@Why_Me's Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ B&H)

 

Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.00 @ Newegg)

 

Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg)

 

some cases come with more or less fans, for example Montech comes with 3 or 4, Fractal Focus 2 comes with just 2 at the front, the 4000D Airflow 1 front 1 back and this Phanteks should come with 4

[podkall]

1 hour ago, tryagaintony said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CdBgMV

 

Hey guys i tweaked couple things from builds you made could you check it out and tell me if it looks good and everything is compatible or anything you'd possibly do differently & also i have it to spare so i kinda wanna do rgb so could you recommend some good rgb cpu coolers and case fans please and thanks!

I would go with @RONOTHAN##'s build, if you don't feel like getting 3 Acer SSDs you can start with two and buy another one later,

 

some cases, that come with pre-installed fans come with RGB fans, some have fixed color and some have fans that change color,

 

alternatively for bit more $ you can just buy a case and replace it's fans with those that do have RGB, for some cases it's necessary because some cases come with 0 fans or just 1 which isn't ideal for super high end build.

 

some fans are bit better than others, they are sold single or in fan packs with multiple fans.

 

RGB CPU coolers, first you can get ARGB Thermalright Peerless Assassin,

 

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon)

 

or something like a Liquid Freezer III from Arctic the ARGB version,

 

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($139.99 @ Amazon)

 

• Do note that the more fans your build has the more fan_headers your MB needs to have, one way to fix this is to get a fan hub/fan splitter
• Because if you power the fans in PSU, they will just be stuck at 100% fan speed, unless you're fine with them whining at full speed

[Somerandomtechyboi]

15 hours ago, tryagaintony said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CdBgMV

 

Hey guys i tweaked couple things from builds you made could you check it out and tell me if it looks good and everything is compatible or anything you'd possibly do differently & also i have it to spare so i kinda wanna do rgb so could you recommend some good rgb cpu coolers and case fans please and thanks!

board is a lower end model but its definitely overpriced, at that price might aswell go straight to a b650 proart (can run dual gpu) or a b650e taichi lite (tons of usb3, usb4 on the rear i/o, postcode, eclk for overclocking that 7800x3d), b650 aorus elite ax is a better choice at 177$ cause it is a tier above the gaming plus, though if you dont need wifi theres the b650 pg lightning at 150$

 

ssds are all overpriced except for that gm7000 but thats still on the pricier side of ssds

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BzNQJy

 

board swapped to a b650 pg lightning, alternative boards are the b650 aorus elite ax, b650 proart, and the b650e taichi lite

 

ssds have been swapped for a 4 + 4 config with the overpriced 990 pro being upgraded to a crucial t700 aka an actually fast ssd that justifies its pricepoint and not just a marginal improvement, can add more ssds if you like be it <280$ high end gen4 or more 370$ t700