i7 6700k vs i5 8400 at 1080p?

[jordanbuilds1]

both will be paired with a 1650 and both 16 gigs ddr4. which would hypothetically be better at playing cs2 around 80-100fps? i7 has 2 less cores than the i5 but does have 2 more threads.

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

both will be paired with a 1650 and both 16 gigs ddr4. which would hypothetically be better at playing cs2 around 80-100fps? i7 has 2 less cores than the i5 but does have 2 more threads.

Tough choice, chips from the Intel stagnation era...

I'd say the 6700K is better, it clocks faster/ better single core performance, and has HT

[YoungBlade]

This is a tough choice. Both have comparable levels of overall CPU performance. I would lean towards the i5 8400, with the main reason being that it will give you proper support for Windows 11. In either case, the CPUs are more than enough to get you 100fps.

 

With that said, if you're getting a board that would let you overclock the i7 6700K, and you don't care about official Windows 11 support, then the i7 would likely perform better in CS2.

 

What two motherboards are you looking at?

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

both will be paired with a 1650 and both 16 gigs ddr4. which would hypothetically be better at playing cs2 around 80-100fps? i7 has 2 less cores than the i5 but does have 2 more threads.

Performance is very similar, with a small OC the 6700K will match the 8400 but with no OC the 8400 should be better, though it doesn't have hyper threading. 6700K is what I'd get

[RONOTHAN##]

The 8400 is the better chip, the extra cores will be more useful than hyperthreading. The only way the 6700K might overtake the 8400 is if get a golden sample and overclock it to 4.8GHz. 

 

That said, neither of these chips really make that much sense to buy if you don't already own them and a board to go with them when you can get something like an R5 5600 setup for less. 

[jordanbuilds1]

1 minute ago, YoungBlade said:

This is a tough choice. Both have comparable levels of overall CPU performance. I would lean towards the i5 8400, with the main reason being that it will give you proper support for Windows 11. In either case, the CPUs are more than enough to get you 100fps.

 

With that said, if you're getting a board that would let you overclock the i7 6700K, and you don't care about official Windows 11 support, then the i7 would likely perform better in CS2.

 

What two motherboards are you looking at?

ASUS H110M-R Motherboard Intel 6th/7th Gen LGA1151 DDR4 Micro-ATX i/o shield | eBay

not sure if i can oc on it but thats one i found

[YoungBlade]

Just now, jordanbuilds1 said:

ASUS H110M-R Motherboard Intel 6th/7th Gen LGA1151 DDR4 Micro-ATX i/o shield | eBay

not sure if i can oc on it but thats one i found

That board would only support the i7 6700K, and not the i5 8400. It also offers no overclocking support, and I question whether the VRMs can properly handle a stock i7 6700K.

 

Is there a reason you're looking at 10 year old tech for this build?

[jordanbuilds1]

1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The 8400 is the better chip, the extra cores will be more useful than hyperthreading. The only way the 6700K might overtake the 8400 is if get a golden sample and overclock it to 4.8GHz. 

 

That said, neither of these chips really make that much sense to buy if you don't already own them and a board to go with them when you can get something like an R5 5600 setup for less. 

the only problem is that im stuck with a 300 buck usd budget.

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, jordanbuilds1 said:

the only problem is that im stuck with a 300 buck usd budget.

Is that for a full system or just the CPU/Mobo/RAM? 

[jordanbuilds1]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

That board would only support the i7 6700K, and not the i5 8400. It also offers no overclocking support, and I question whether the VRMs can properly handle a stock i7 6700K.

 

Is there a reason you're looking at 10 year old tech for this build?

cheap for the most part, and also, what board would you recomend for the for a simple oc?

[jordanbuilds1]

Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

Is that for a full system or just the CPU/Mobo/RAM? 

everything minus the case

[Agall]

19 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

both will be paired with a 1650 and both 16 gigs ddr4. which would hypothetically be better at playing cs2 around 80-100fps? i7 has 2 less cores than the i5 but does have 2 more threads.

6700k, easily.

 

The 6700k still has sufficient multicore performance but beats out the 8400 in single threaded. Intel was basically stagnant on architectural improvements from 4th gen to 10th gen, so anything in between there is so close that the higher end dies will be the best choice.

 

Intel Core i7-6700K vs Intel Core i5-8400 Benchmark, comparison and differences (cpu-monkey.com)

 

Either way though, they both suck by modern standards because of the massive improvements in IPC/cache/frequency over the last 2-3 generations. Anything before Ryzen 5000 and Intel 12th gen is dated, Ryzen 3000 being close enough in some scenarios with the higher end dies and fast DDR4 RAM.

 

It's like comparing 4 to 4.5 when today's standard bottom is 10 and the 7800x3D is like 20.

[YoungBlade]

1 minute ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

cheap for the most part, and also, what board would you recomend for the price?

1 minute ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

everything minus the case

How's this? Everything new except for the graphics card, and no case.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GZHqfy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($77.77 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($17.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Black Edition Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  ($63.06) ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/156184063570 )
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI)
Total: $301.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-29 14:05 EDT-0400

[filpo]

16 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

ASUS H110M-R Motherboard Intel 6th/7th Gen LGA1151 DDR4 Micro-ATX i/o shield | eBay

not sure if i can oc on it but thats one i found

if this is a new build you can get better, like am4

ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (B450M-HDV R4.0) - PCPartPicker

12 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

everything minus the case

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($94.00 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: powerspec Tier C 650W  ($35.00)
Custom: used RX 580 ($65.00)
Total: $324.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-29 14:09 EDT-0400

EDIT: try this instead

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: powerspec Tier C 650W  ($35.00)
Custom: used RX 580 ($65.00)
Custom: Used R5 3600 with cooler ($70.00)
Total: $300.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-29 14:13 EDT-0400

Edited April 29 by filpo

[jordanbuilds1]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

How's this? Everything new except for the graphics card, and no case.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GZHqfy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($77.77 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($17.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Black Edition Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  ($63.06) ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/156184063570 )
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI)
Total: $301.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-29 14:05 EDT-0400

it kinda works but =one thing is i cant find a b450m for that price so im prob gonna down grade that cpu mobo to a 2nd gen r3 3200g. also i cant find a 8 gig 570 for a good price so thats why i just went with a 1650.

[YoungBlade]

2 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

it kinda works but =one thing is i cant find a b450m for that price so im prob gonna down grade that cpu mobo to a 2nd gen r3 3200g. also i cant find a 8 gig 570 for a good price so thats why i just went with a 1650.

Are you not located in the US? If you click on the PCPartPicker link, it then links to all of those parts (except for the GPU, which I linked to in my post).

[jordanbuilds1]

3 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

Are you not located in the US? If you click on the PCPartPicker link, it then links to all of those parts (except for the GPU, which I linked to in my post).

i am, its just that the mobo in particular is expensive new and used.

 

13 minutes ago, filpo said:

if this is a new build you can get better, like am4

ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (B450M-HDV R4.0) - PCPartPicker

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($94.00 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: powerspec Tier C 650W  ($35.00)
Custom: used RX 580 ($65.00)
Total: $324.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-29 14:09 EDT-0400

EDIT: try this instead

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: powerspec Tier C 650W  ($35.00)
Custom: used RX 580 ($65.00)
Custom: Used R5 3600 with cooler ($70.00)
Total: $300.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-29 14:13 EDT-0400

that might actually work.

[filpo]

13 minutes ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

its just that the mobo in particular is expensive new and used.

it's $60, not that bad considering their build is at $300

[jordanbuilds1]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

it's $60, not that bad considering their build is at $300

right as i said that i found one at 60 bucks, thanks for the help btw!