replacing old parts.....is PSU enough?

[Killjoy_NS]

Hi to all.

I need an advice.

I'm replacing my:

Ryzen 5 2600 with Ryzen 5800x;

XFX RX470 TripleX with XFX RX 6800;

Gigabyte AB350M DS3H V2 with Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite

 

I also have: 6x 120mm coolers, NVMe SSD 250GB, WD HDD 7200rpm, WD HDD 5400rpm and 4x 8GB of Kingston HyperX Black Beast at 3200MT/s.

My question is:

Will my ASUS ROG Strix 750W GOLD be enough for my new components?

[PDifolco]

6 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Hi to all.

I need an advice.

I'm replacing my:

Ryzen 5 2600 with Ryzen 5800x;

XFX RX470 TripleX with XFX RX 6800;

Gigabyte AB350M DS3H V2 with Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite

 

I also have: 6x 120mm coolers, NVMe SSD 250GB, WD HDD 7200rpm, WD HDD 5400rpm and 4x 8GB of Kingston HyperX Black Beast at 3200MT/s.

My question is:

Will my ASUS ROG Strix 750W GOLD be enough for my new components?

Definitely yes

You should drop the HDD and get larger M2 instead imo  

[Aleph256]

Rough build says yes.
Do note that you'll need to shell for a CPU cooler though - 5800X does not come with a stock one.

[aren332]

10 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Hi to all.

I need an advice.

I'm replacing my:

Ryzen 5 2600 with Ryzen 5800x;

XFX RX470 TripleX with XFX RX 6800;

Gigabyte AB350M DS3H V2 with Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite

 

I also have: 6x 120mm coolers, NVMe SSD 250GB, WD HDD 7200rpm, WD HDD 5400rpm and 4x 8GB of Kingston HyperX Black Beast at 3200MT/s.

My question is:

Will my ASUS ROG Strix 750W GOLD be enough for my new components?

Yes, my friend has a 12600kf with a rx 6800 with a 750w psu, hes perfectly fine

 

im pretty sure 12600kf draws more power than 5800x too

[podkall]

Sounds good:

[Killjoy_NS]

Thank you all. I was curious cause I found TWO similar (I thought that they were the same gpus) but one needs 650W psu, another 750W.
Shockingly, in a local store, the one who needs 750W is cheaper than the other.
It says minimum 750W....so I was kinda curious....if 750W will be enough.
i don't even know how they determine how much power gpu needs.

 

These 2 gpus, but they look the same to me.....according to specs:
 

Costs me more vs Costs me less.

I don't see the difference except power draw or should I say PSU requirements.

P.S. Btw, which gpu brands are reliable these days anyway?

 

 

[Killjoy_NS]

I almost forgot. My current cpu has ThermalTAKE ToughAIR 310 air cooler.
Should I replace it.......or that cooler should be enough for Ryzen 5800x?

 

Right now, my Ryzen 5 2600 is at 30c on idle.
When gaming.....maybe 50-55c I think.

[podkall]

4 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

P.S. Btw, which gpu brands are reliable these days anyway?

it depends, all should be, some handle warranty and customer support better than other, but mostly all should obey the law so the brand doesn't really matter,

 

same chip different brand,

5 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Thank you all. I was curious cause I found TWO similar (I thought that they were the same gpus) but one needs 650W psu, another 750W.
Shockingly, in a local store, the one who needs 750W is cheaper than the other.
It says minimum 750W....so I was kinda curious....if 750W will be enough.
i don't even know how they determine how much power gpu needs.

 

These 2 gpus, but they look the same to me.....according to specs:
 

Costs me more vs Costs me less.

I don't see the difference except power draw or should I say PSU requirements.

P.S. Btw, which gpu brands are reliable these days anyway?

 

 

it's likely that one card is let to drink more wattage while other isn't, I can see white despite having same clock speed, one card has slightly bigger heatsink,

 

it's either the heatsink/performance ratio o scaling, or it's the same reason why 7600x is 105W and 7600 is 65W CPU, and both perform almost the same with the exception of 7600x clocking slightly higher on basic settings

[Aleph256]

5 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

which gpu brands are reliable these days anyway

Most of them, really - it would probably be faster to name brands to avoid. Basically if you've seen the LTT crew use the brand before in a somewhat serious build, it's good enough and comes down to customer support and local prices.

 

6 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Should I replace it.......or that cooler should be enough for Ryzen 5800x

5800X has a TDP of 105W, product page rates TT TA310 for 170, you're good.

[Killjoy_NS]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

it depends, all should be, some handle warranty and customer support better than other, but mostly all should obey the law so the brand doesn't really matter,

 

same chip different brand,

it's likely that one card is let to drink more wattage while other isn't, I can see white despite having same clock speed, one card has slightly bigger heatsink,

 

it's either the heatsink/performance ratio o scaling, or it's the same reason why 7600x is 105W and 7600 is 65W CPU, and both perform almost the same with the exception of 7600x clocking slightly higher on basic settings

Interesting. I'll go with the cheaper one.
It's 50€ cheaper!
I don't care about OC btw, I just want to play.
This gpu should handle me for 10 years atleast.
It is after all 16GB.

 

Thank you.

[Killjoy_NS]

1 minute ago, Aleph256 said:

Most of them, really - it would probably be faster to name brands to avoid. Basically if you've seen the LTT crew use the brand before in a somewhat serious build, it's good enough and comes down to customer support and local prices.

 

5800X has a TDP of 105W, product page rates TT TA310 for 170, you're good.

I thought that too....but....bunch of you are more into these stuff than me.
I'm getting older...
Like LINUS....same age I think.

[PDifolco]

12 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

I almost forgot. My current cpu has ThermalTAKE ToughAIR 310 air cooler.
Should I replace it.......or that cooler should be enough for Ryzen 5800x?

 

Right now, my Ryzen 5 2600 is at 30c on idle.
When gaming.....maybe 50-55c I think.

Should be okay, seems a decent cooler,  but not a great one

15 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Thank you all. I was curious cause I found TWO similar (I thought that they were the same gpus) but one needs 650W psu, another 750W.
Shockingly, in a local store, the one who needs 750W is cheaper than the other.
It says minimum 750W....so I was kinda curious....if 750W will be enough.
i don't even know how they determine how much power gpu needs.

 

These 2 gpus, but they look the same to me.....according to specs:
 

Costs me more vs Costs me less.

I don't see the difference except power draw or should I say PSU requirements.

P.S. Btw, which gpu brands are reliable these days anyway?

 

 

Get the XFX,  it should  clock a bit higher,  but the PSU requirements are pretty random often, what you need is not a ton of  power (5800 and 6800 needs max 450W, my system full  power draw with 5900X and 7900XTX is 600W..), it's "good " power, so a safe, good built PSU, even if it's a 650W one

[Killjoy_NS]

Any "bottlenecking" I should be worried about?
I'm playing mostly 1080p.....but I have this ACER....I guess I can play games.....more than 1080p with this screen?

[podkall]

5 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Interesting. I'll go with the cheaper one.
It's 50€ cheaper!
I don't care about OC btw, I just want to play.
This gpu should handle me for 10 years atleast.
It is after all 16GB.

 

Thank you.

it's not really about OC, modern GPUs clock as fast as their thermal and other limits allow them to, but these differences can be barely noticeable or worth the money

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Any "bottlenecking" I should be worried about?
I'm playing mostly 1080p.....but I have this ACER....I guess I can play games.....more than 1080p with this screen?

not really, though I'm not sure of 5700x3D wouldn't be better for gaming instead of 5800x

 

@PDifolco do you have overview on this comparison?

[GuiltySpark_]

11 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

I almost forgot. My current cpu has ThermalTAKE ToughAIR 310 air cooler.
Should I replace it.......or that cooler should be enough for Ryzen 5800x?

 

Right now, my Ryzen 5 2600 is at 30c on idle.
When gaming.....maybe 50-55c I think.

Stock, 5800x is a furnace and you will see upwards of 90-95c under full load with a little single tower like that, you can't take TDP ratings of CPU's or coolers seriously at all, its almost completely irrelevant when cooler shopping. You'd be much better off with a PA120 or the like, but you're really going to need to look into Curve Optimizer undervotling if you're deadset on keeping that little cooler.

 

Also, most new users for Ryzen 5000 didn't fully grasp how much hotter these chips ran vs. previous Zen generations so you need to mentally prepare yourself for that. 

 

(5800x owner for the last 3+ years, under a 360 AIO)

[Killjoy_NS]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

Should be okay, seems a decent cooler,  but not a great one

Get the XFX,  it should  clock a bit higher,  but the PSU requirements are pretty random often, what you need is not a ton of  power (5800 and 6800 needs max 450W, m full  power draw with  5900X and 7900XTX is 600W..), it's "good " power, so a safe, good built PSU, even if it's a 650W one

 

I don't think I can USE more than 10GB of VRAM for gaming.
I mean.....I'm not complicated person....I do not require stable 150fps.....I'm satisfied with stable 60fps or even 30fps....decent res.....no screen tearing....and I HATE Motion Blur stuff.....so that stuff is always off.

Knowing me, first game I'll probably play is NFS Most Wanted from 2005.

[Killjoy_NS]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

not really, though I'm not sure of 5700x3D wouldn't be better for gaming instead of 5800x

 

@PDifolco do you have overview on this comparison?

 

Any BIG difference between 5700x3d and 5800x?
I was even considering 5600x.....and I don't mind....I believe that even 5600x should be enough....
Just pls don't tell me that I should buy water cooling....I don't know how to install that thing anyway.

 

BTW, I wanna play CP77, my kid is playing FORTNITE....I wanna play "new" Robocop....and possibly second Star Wars Jedi Survivor....since my current gpu CAN handle a lot.....but it is weak....I manage to play Jedi Survivor with 30-35fps but it drops to 15fps etc....

 

[Killjoy_NS]

13 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Stock, 5800x is a furnace and you will see upwards of 90-95c under full load with a little single tower like that, you can't take TDP ratings of CPU's or coolers seriously at all, its almost completely irrelevant when cooler shopping. You'd be much better off with a PA120 or the like, but you're really going to need to look into Curve Optimizer undervotling if you're deadset on keeping that little cooler.

 

Also, most new users for Ryzen 5000 didn't fully grasp how much hotter these chips ran vs. previous Zen generations so you need to mentally prepare yourself for that. 

 

(5800x owner for the last 3+ years, under a 360 AIO)

Good God.....like in hell......

 

That reminds me of a local joke:

What kind of a heating are you using during winter?
AMD!!!

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Stock, 5800x is a furnace and you will see upwards of 90-95c under full load with a little single tower like that, you can't take TDP ratings of CPU's or coolers seriously at all, its almost completely irrelevant when cooler shopping. You'd be much better off with a PA120 or the like, but you're really going to need to look into Curve Optimizer undervotling if you're deadset on keeping that little cooler.

 

Also, most new users for Ryzen 5000 didn't fully grasp how much hotter these chips ran vs. previous Zen generations so you need to mentally prepare yourself for that. 

unless you're gaming,

 

but only gaming

 

4 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Just pls don't tell me that I should buy water cooling....I don't know how to install that thing anyway.

no you don't need AIO cooling

 

5700x3D vs other CPUs in screenshot,

 

 

it's from a 20min video from GN,

 

[jaslion]

41 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Thank you all. I was curious cause I found TWO similar (I thought that they were the same gpus) but one needs 650W psu, another 750W.
Shockingly, in a local store, the one who needs 750W is cheaper than the other.
It says minimum 750W....so I was kinda curious....if 750W will be enough.
i don't even know how they determine how much power gpu needs.

 

These 2 gpus, but they look the same to me.....according to specs:
 

Costs me more vs Costs me less.

I don't see the difference except power draw or should I say PSU requirements.

P.S. Btw, which gpu brands are reliable these days anyway?

 

 

They are the sa.e card a rx6800 csn run on a decent 650w psu no problem

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, jaslion said:

They are the sa.e card a rx6800 csn run on a decent 650w psu no problem

would you say 5700x3D > 5800x in gaming?

[GuiltySpark_]

9 minutes ago, Killjoy_NS said:

Good God.....like in hell......

 

That reminds me of a local joke:

What kind of a heating are you using during winter?
AMD!!!

Heat generated and core temperature are not necessarily the same thing, hence why cooler TDP isn't a useful metric. 5800x is 8 full cores enabled on a single CCD in a much smaller space than your old Zen+ part. For the last three years we've dealt with users who weren't fully "up with" the latest stuff and were shocked by their temperatures moving to Zen3/Ryzen 5000 (we're doing it again with Ryzen 7000..) 

[jaslion]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

would you say 5700x3D > 5800x in gaming?

Absolutly better the 5700x3x is bettrr

[podkall]

Just now, jaslion said:

Absolutly better the 5700x3x is bettrr

I wondered, since isn't it almost the same as 5800x3D except some minor differences? they have same amount of cores