gear 1 vs gear 2

[bal723]

so i think of upgrading my lga 1200 system to either:
z590m+11600k up to 5ghz overclock (maybe 4.7ghz most of time)

erying mobo with 12700h (overclockable too)

erying mobo with 12450h (overclockable too)

i chose them as they all are sub 200$ variants
so about two last ones, as they are mobile processors they support ddr4 3200mhz in gear 2 and 2667mhz in gear 1, so i was wondering which gear will give most peformance to them

 

(dont reccomend going amd)

[Motifator]

Go AMD, the only reason I'm going from my 5900X to Intel is because of the cheap ITX board I acquired + cheaper costs of the CPUs like the 13400 (with onboard graphics).

AMD is really better, no cheeky.

[podkall]

24 minutes ago, bal723 said:

(dont reccomend going amd)

why not? are you using Photoshop while compiling code while rendering Blender?

[bal723]

11 minutes ago, podkall said:

why not? are you using Photoshop while compiling code while rendering Blender?

just dont, its a full intel build, just tell me about gears, thats all

[Tetras]

48 minutes ago, bal723 said:

so i think of upgrading my lga 1200 system to either:

What do you have now? Why not just put a new CPU in it?

[podkall]

24 minutes ago, bal723 said:

just dont, its a full intel build, just tell me about gears, thats all

Don't you already have that? Or are you trying to play Helldivers 2?

[RONOTHAN##]

1 hour ago, bal723 said:

i was wondering which gear will give most peformance to them

Gear 1, Gear 2's latency penalty is large enough that you need at least 800MT/s worth of memory bandwidth to somewhat make up for it on DDR4.

 

It really is worth considering AMD for this though. 

[bal723]

11 hours ago, Tetras said:

What do you have now? Why not just put a new CPU in it?

i have 10105f but i dont think my gigabyte b560m h could handle such hot cpu as 11600k, also from what i know b560 doesnt support overclocking

[bal723]

11 hours ago, podkall said:

Don't you already have that? Or are you trying to play Helldivers 2?

why bring up helldivers there?

[podkall]

1 hour ago, bal723 said:

why bring up helldivers there?

cause it's a demanding game

 

 

and there's no reason to upgrade anything in PC other than to run newer titles smoothly.

[bal723]

15 minutes ago, podkall said:

cause it's a demanding game

 

 

and there's no reason to upgrade anything in PC other than to run newer titles smoothly.

from game benchmarks it doesnt seem that demanding on lower settings, also i am planning to upgrade to a750 or battlemage equivalent of it

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, bal723 said:

from game benchmarks it doesnt seem that demanding on lower settings, also i am planning to upgrade to a750 or battlemage equivalent of it

alright, but do you need to upgrade?

[bal723]

9 minutes ago, podkall said:

alright, but do you need to upgrade?

yes, i bought wfhd 100hz monitor, why wouldn't i update to something better from a380

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, bal723 said:

yes, i bought wfhd 100hz monitor, why wouldn't i update to something better from a380

if you get 100+ fps already with A380 there's no need though

[Tetras]

4 hours ago, bal723 said:

i have 10105f but i dont think my gigabyte b560m h could handle such hot cpu as 11600k, also from what i know b560 doesnt support overclocking

You are right, it doesn't, but I think your board would be fine with a 6 core and it would be a big upgrade to the 10105F.

[bal723]

3 hours ago, podkall said:

if you get 100+ fps already with A380 there's no need though

i dont, its just too weak, now all games require more powerful gpu, not even roblox runs on 100 fps in all games

[bal723]

1 hour ago, Tetras said:

You are right, it doesn't, but I think your board would be fine with a 6 core and it would be a big upgrade to the 10105F.

so maybe 11400f? but then ill need somehow to extend my ram to 32gb for future somehow

[Tetras]

6 minutes ago, bal723 said:

so maybe 11400f? but then ill need somehow to extend my ram to 32gb for future somehow

If the only thing you do with your PC is game, I'm pretty sure it'll be fine with a 11600K.

 

In HUB's hardware tests, I believe the DS3H has a similar VRM and even after a 1 hour blender test @ 200 watts power consumption, the 11400F did not throttle.

 

The 11600K did throttle, but that was at 264 watts power consumption in the same test (1 hour blender), which is a very unrealistic level of load for gaming.

 

If you do long-run multithreaded work, I'd just enable the Intel power limits (instead of running the board unlocked).

[bal723]

2 minutes ago, Tetras said:

If the only thing you do with your PC is game, I'm pretty sure it'll be fine with a 11600K.

 

In HUB's hardware tests, I believe the DS3H has a similar VRM and even after a 1 hour blender test @ 200 watts power consumption, the 11400F did not throttle.

 

The 11600K did throttle, but that was at 264 watts power consumption in the same test (1 hour blender), which is a very unrealistic level of load for gaming.

 

If you do long-run multithreaded work, I'd just enable the Intel power limits (instead of running the board unlocked).

maybe just 11400f for 30$ cheaper then? as there is no overclocking on b board

[Tetras]

6 minutes ago, bal723 said:

maybe just 11400f for 30$ cheaper then? as there is no overclocking on b board

If it was me, I'd pay the $30 for a 11600K, but when the 11400F is power unlocked there's not much between them.